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Post by geddongas on Jul 10, 2019 7:26:41 GMT
Funny how you rarely see a player so universally condemned by a fanbase for solely his contribution on the pitch, yet he was virtually ever-present for 2 years, and now brought in by a manager who, we've seen, actually knows about defence. Will be interesting to find out the truth. A lot of hate for Leahy from Walsall fans but funnily enough i’ve seen a lot of hate for some of the other players that have left them, including even a triallist going to try at Oxford. I think 2 years of poor football and poor results will do that to you. Likely was why Leahy had an attitude problem - he’s young and gifted and probably didn’t work as hard but still felt he should be in a better team getting better results. We see players go elsewhere and play very differently. The opportunity to stay in League One will be something LL will be grateful for so hopefully that fires him up a bit. If his defensive display is awful, I trust GC to coach him. If he is young and naive and a partygoer, I trust GC to help deal with that from his own experience.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 10, 2019 7:27:34 GMT
Walsall fan in peace. Like someone commented above you probably don't give a stuff on my opinion...but I'll give it anyway. Luke Leahy is possibly the worst left back I have ever seen at Walsall in 30+ years that has played so many games. His positional sense is atrocious - he just doesn't understand where he should be on the pitch when facing an opponent or if they have possession.I can understand why he may impress from certain stats and in a trial, as technically he can strike a ball well. The crosses stat is misleading though - most go out of play or aren't anywhere near the forwards. I've never seen a player put so many free kicks straight into touch. Thats how poor our manager was that didn't recognise this and take him off duty. He did it 2 or 3 times at your place last year. Yes he was part of a poor team, that was very badly organised defensively so any organisation will help, but he was still personally and directly responsible for so many goals from unforced errors and that will still happen in a decent defence. Worse still he would then visibly blame and berate others for his mistakes and caused terrible disharmony in the squad. A egotistical bad apple based on nothing but his own opinion of himself. Having said all that, he is clearly suited to one position - wing back. If you play that and he can be taught how to cross then you may get lucky. Otherwise, good luck! I'm just glad he's gone, whatever level we are playing at. PS. He scored one penalty against his old club, but missed others by hitting them ALL weakly to the keeper's right. Look out for that if he takes one for you. In the YouTube videos when he was playing in Scotland he seem to be in the right position when required, perhaps this says more about your management and centre back pairing than the player, with GC as manager and TC alongside him I wouldn't have any concerns about his positional play just as long as he can tackle/cross the ball he'll be fine at Rovers.
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Post by saddlesore on Jul 10, 2019 7:31:33 GMT
Walsall fan in peace. Like someone commented above you probably don't give a stuff on my opinion...but I'll give it anyway. Luke Leahy is possibly the worst left back I have ever seen at Walsall in 30+ years that has played so many games. His positional sense is atrocious - he just doesn't understand where he should be on the pitch when facing an opponent or if they have possession. I can understand why he may impress from certain stats and in a trial, as technically he can strike a ball well. The crosses stat is misleading though - most go out of play or aren't anywhere near the forwards. I've never seen a player put so many free kicks straight into touch. Thats how poor our manager was that didn't recognise this and take him off duty. He did it 2 or 3 times at your place last year. Yes he was part of a poor team, that was very badly organised defensively so any organisation will help, but he was still personally and directly responsible for so many goals from unforced errors and that will still happen in a decent defence. Worse still he would then visibly blame and berate others for his mistakes and caused terrible disharmony in the squad. A egotistical bad apple based on nothing but his own opinion of himself. Having said all that, he is clearly suited to one position - wing back. If you play that and he can be taught how to cross then you may get lucky. Otherwise, good luck! I'm just glad he's gone, whatever level we are playing at. PS. He scored one penalty against his old club, but missed others by hitting them ALL weakly to the keeper's right. Look out for that if he takes one for you. Funny we said that about the 2 players and a manager we let you have recently, be prepared for some boring football and to struggle to score goals Really? I just saw pages of compliments and best wishes for 2 out of the 3 on here, apart from rare comments from people clearly bitter at the news. In any case we've had that for the last few years so we're acclimatised if that is the case. Many players and managers can do excellently at one club then bombs elsewhere - look at Ray Graydon. A legend forever at Walsall and you lot hated him. Its all circumstances that matter. Manager, team mates/spirit etc. However, if a player at Leahy's age hasn't listened several coaches over many years to where he should position himself then he'll never make it as a defender under any manager. It's schoolboy basics.
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Post by saddlesore on Jul 10, 2019 7:35:23 GMT
Walsall fan in peace. Like someone commented above you probably don't give a stuff on my opinion...but I'll give it anyway. Luke Leahy is possibly the worst left back I have ever seen at Walsall in 30+ years that has played so many games. His positional sense is atrocious - he just doesn't understand where he should be on the pitch when facing an opponent or if they have possession.I can understand why he may impress from certain stats and in a trial, as technically he can strike a ball well. The crosses stat is misleading though - most go out of play or aren't anywhere near the forwards. I've never seen a player put so many free kicks straight into touch. Thats how poor our manager was that didn't recognise this and take him off duty. He did it 2 or 3 times at your place last year. Yes he was part of a poor team, that was very badly organised defensively so any organisation will help, but he was still personally and directly responsible for so many goals from unforced errors and that will still happen in a decent defence. Worse still he would then visibly blame and berate others for his mistakes and caused terrible disharmony in the squad. A egotistical bad apple based on nothing but his own opinion of himself. Having said all that, he is clearly suited to one position - wing back. If you play that and he can be taught how to cross then you may get lucky. Otherwise, good luck! I'm just glad he's gone, whatever level we are playing at. PS. He scored one penalty against his old club, but missed others by hitting them ALL weakly to the keeper's right. Look out for that if he takes one for you. In the YouTube videos when he was playing in Scotland he seem to be in the right position when required, perhaps this says more about your management and centre back pairing than the player, with GC as manager and TC alongside him I wouldn't have any concerns about his positional play just as long as he can tackle/cross the ball he'll be fine at Rovers. Yes, because short YouTube clips are the almanac of footballing ability. Like I said, he can't cross. And thanks for mentioning the tackling, I forgot to mention he can't do that either. Just turns his back and watches them waltz pass. Anyway enough from me. You'll all see it for yourself very soon. I look forward to reading the comments throughout the season.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 10, 2019 7:39:06 GMT
Funny we said that about the 2 players and a manager we let you have recently, be prepared for some boring football and to struggle to score goals Really? I just saw pages of compliments and best wishes for 2 out of the 3 on here, apart from rare comments from people clearly bitter at the news. In any case we've had that for the last few years so we're acclimatised if that is the case. Many players and managers can do excellently at one club then bombs elsewhere - look at Ray Graydon. A legend forever at Walsall and you lot hated him. Its all circumstances that matter. Manager, team mates/spirit etc. However, if a player at Leahy's age hasn't listened several coaches over many years to where he should position himself then he'll never make it as a defender under any manager. It's schoolboy basics. DC was generally quite positive during his time here, and we actually played some very decent attacking stuff for a while. His last year here, though, got progressively conservative, and he seemed to want to err on the side of ball-retention rather than making stuff happen. Hopefully for you, he's had a think about it, and will come up with a more attacking way to play.
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Post by eastgas on Jul 10, 2019 7:46:05 GMT
Welcome to the club, very good signing IMO, very attacking fullback who has assists in him. Looking more likely our wide attacking treat is going to come from our fullback positions I take it, that is a Freudian slip? Treat being something that is good or nice, but only happens occassionally. Think I was supposed to write threat 😁
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 10, 2019 7:47:14 GMT
Funny we said that about the 2 players and a manager we let you have recently, be prepared for some boring football and to struggle to score goals Really? I just saw pages of compliments and best wishes for 2 out of the 3 on here, apart from rare comments from people clearly bitter at the news. In any case we've had that for the last few years so we're acclimatised if that is the case. Many players and managers can do excellently at one club then bombs elsewhere - look at Ray Graydon. A legend forever at Walsall and you lot hated him. Its all circumstances that matter. Manager, team mates/spirit etc. However, if a player at Leahy's age hasn't listened several coaches over many years to where he should position himself then he'll never make it as a defender under any manager. It's schoolboy basics. James Clarke - good solid defender, slow as a tanker in turning, can't cross a ball for toffee The Beard - Sincs - Runs around a lot and can put a foot where it hurts (thats why we all love him), football ability very limited The Boss DC - rightly so a legend at the club for his two promotions but these last 2 years in League 1 he struggled to put a wining team together and never stuck to a wining team. League 2 will be his level. He will chop and change the team every week for sure. Best of luck next season and i hope to see you in League 1 very soon, but i won't hold my breath
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Post by pirate49 on Jul 10, 2019 7:53:13 GMT
But this makes me cross! 'Appearing forty times in Sky Bet League One last season, Leahy contributed heavily to his side's attacking intent from full-back, providing a number of assists throughout the season and scoring three times.' He's a bluddy LB and they were relegated, conceding 71 goals, 21 more than us!! I couldn't care a toss if our FBs show 'attacking intent', just do your number one job and stop the opposition from scoring! We nearly got relegated because we created so few chances per game last season. A lot of that was because we had Kelly and JC at fullback - how many crosses into the box per game do you reckon they got compared to Brown/Leadbitter in previous years? Your defence can be the best in the league (ours was away from home) but if you don’t have attacking intent you will draw/lose games. Just the way the modern game is. Sorry if this is an old fashioned concept; Goalkeeper - stop the ball from going in the net Defenders - defend and cut out scoring opportunities Midfield - CREATE!! Strikers - score goals
That's the bottom line. Anything else is a bonus.
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Post by pirate on Jul 10, 2019 7:53:41 GMT
Walsall fan in peace. Like someone commented above you probably don't give a stuff on my opinion...but I'll give it anyway. Luke Leahy is possibly the worst left back I have ever seen at Walsall in 30+ years that has played so many games. His positional sense is atrocious - he just doesn't understand where he should be on the pitch when facing an opponent or if they have possession. I can understand why he may impress from certain stats and in a trial, as technically he can strike a ball well. The crosses stat is misleading though - most go out of play or aren't anywhere near the forwards. I've never seen a player put so many free kicks straight into touch. Thats how poor our manager was that didn't recognise this and take him off duty. He did it 2 or 3 times at your place last year. Yes he was part of a poor team, that was very badly organised defensively so any organisation will help, but he was still personally and directly responsible for so many goals from unforced errors and that will still happen in a decent defence. Worse still he would then visibly blame and berate others for his mistakes and caused terrible disharmony in the squad. A egotistical bad apple based on nothing but his own opinion of himself. Having said all that, he is clearly suited to one position - wing back. If you play that and he can be taught how to cross then you may get lucky. Otherwise, good luck! I'm just glad he's gone, whatever level we are playing at. PS. He scored one penalty against his old club, but missed others by hitting them ALL weakly to the keeper's right. Look out for that if he takes one for you. "The crosses stat is misleading though - most go out of play or aren't anywhere near the forwards" But still managed 17 assists in 2 seasons.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 10, 2019 7:54:30 GMT
Just saying. To a man they don't rate him and I'm sure they have seen much more of him than you have? Seriously, that has no balance whatsoever.
Young lad, enjoyed his mates, when he had the gift of talent. This isn't abnormal, despite being football gifted, and we may well have the lad at a good time of his life, as he begins to understand and mature.
To a man the gas fans need to make their own judgements on his performances and behaviour, welcome him and support him.
We may well do and will make our own judgments. It would be arrogant of us though to completely to dismiss the views of fans who have been watching him for 2 seasons solid.
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Post by pirate on Jul 10, 2019 7:57:42 GMT
Seriously, that has no balance whatsoever.
Young lad, enjoyed his mates, when he had the gift of talent. This isn't abnormal, despite being football gifted, and we may well have the lad at a good time of his life, as he begins to understand and mature.
To a man the gas fans need to make their own judgements on his performances and behaviour, welcome him and support him.
We may well do and will make our own judgments. It would be arrogant of us though to completely to dismiss the views of fans who have been watching him for 2 seasons solid. I couldn't care less what Walsall fans think.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 10, 2019 7:59:02 GMT
It's funny, everyone on here says to "look past wikipedia stats" - Walsall fans who have a better opinion on him than anyone else right now have told us their opinion, yet the same people now shut them down because of the wikipedia facts!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 10, 2019 7:59:04 GMT
We may well do and will make our own judgments. It would be arrogant of us though to completely to dismiss the views of fans who have been watching him for 2 seasons solid. I couldn't care less what Walsall fans think. I'm sure that really bothers them.
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Jul 10, 2019 8:06:14 GMT
We may well do and will make our own judgments. It would be arrogant of us though to completely to dismiss the views of fans who have been watching him for 2 seasons solid. I couldn't care less what Walsall fans think. What a strange comment. You come on here recommending players after watching them a few times or from a YouTube video and you completely dismiss opinions of fans who have been watching a player every week.
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Post by titchthephot on Jul 10, 2019 8:07:44 GMT
It really doesn't mean a thing how a player plays for his previous club. Payne did okay for his previous club......Taylor was great for us but has done nothing (okay, higher league but he must have been signed on the basis that he was good enough......or just signed out of spite??), Harrison did well for us...did nothing at Ipswich. Bodin wasn't rated at his previous clubs. I could go on and on. Not every jigsaw piece fits every jigsaw. Give the lad time and let's make our own minds up.
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Post by pirate on Jul 10, 2019 8:09:33 GMT
I couldn't care less what Walsall fans think. What a strange comment. You come on here recommending players after watching them a few times or from a YouTube video and you completely dismiss opinions of fans who have been watching a player every week. I take comments like "the crosses stat is misleading though - most go out of play or aren't anywhere near the forwards" with a pinch of salt. They were so bad that he got 17 assists in 2 seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 8:09:34 GMT
We may well do and will make our own judgments. It would be arrogant of us though to completely to dismiss the views of fans who have been watching him for 2 seasons solid. I couldn't care less what Walsall fans think. Strange given they are the ones who have watched him week in week out, certainly more so than anyone on here. There's clearly major question marks about several aspects of this signing and he's got a fair bit to prove by the sounds of it.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 10, 2019 8:10:32 GMT
It really doesn't mean a thing how a player plays for his previous club. Payne did okay for his previous club......Taylor was great for us but has done nothing (okay, higher league but he must have been signed on the basis that he was good enough......or just signed out of spite??), Harrison did well for us...did nothing at Ipswich. Bodin wasn't rated at his previous clubs. I could go on and on. Not every jigsaw piece fits every jigsaw. Give the lad time and let's make our own minds up. I agree let's make our own minds up, but... Payne: Shrewsbury fans said on their forum at the time that of all the players to leave from that squad, they were least worried about Payne. 17 clubs in 7 years.... Taylor: Higher division Harrison: Higher division Bodin: Was highly rated but too injury prone JCH & Agogo would have been better examples, although neither were hated
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 10, 2019 8:12:00 GMT
Seriously, that has no balance whatsoever.
Young lad, enjoyed his mates, when he had the gift of talent. This isn't abnormal, despite being football gifted, and we may well have the lad at a good time of his life, as he begins to understand and mature.
To a man the gas fans need to make their own judgements on his performances and behaviour, welcome him and support him.
We may well do and will make our own judgments. It would be arrogant of us though to completely to dismiss the views of fans who have been watching him for 2 seasons solid. GGMI, would you ask your Girlfriends previous boyfriend if she was a nice girl.... ? Same applies
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Post by pirate on Jul 10, 2019 8:12:18 GMT
I couldn't care less what Walsall fans think. Strange given they are the ones who have watched him week in week out, certainly more so than anyone on here. There's clearly major question marks about several aspects of this signing and he's got a fair bit to prove by the sounds of it. Yeah, and Rickie Lambert was a fat midfielder and Jason Roberts will never make it.
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