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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 27, 2014 15:03:27 GMT
Hi I have carefully read the comments on this forum. I also have a friend who is a Hereford United supporter who has given me a detailed account of what happened there and I would do everything in my power to ensure it never happens at BRFC. This story is obviously based on gossip or speculation, therefore I am reluctant to comment unless I hear further. What I will say is that I have contacted the Chairman in light of this story and other messages you may have seen to me on twitter to ask if there is any truth in this story or any consortium takeovers. NH has assured me that I would be the first to be informed if that were the case. I have to say no such conversation has taken place, therefore again I have to assume that this story is based on gossip and speculation. best wishes Brian Thank you for doing that and for responding quickly. |
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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2014 15:09:55 GMT
Surprise, surprise, the rumour is total bollocks.
Please can we confine "cockney mafia" rumours to this thread only now, rather than creating another one in future.
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Post by baggins on Oct 27, 2014 15:22:10 GMT
So you'd agree then, by your "if it were just a business NH would never have bought it", that he has the club at heart, should be thanked for the time, effort and cash he has ploughed into what, his hobby, his passion?
Questioning my integrity? How nice.
Not sure what you mean by that. If you were just trying to defend NH, then I'd suggest saying he'd sell the club to asset strippers is not the best way to do it. I am thankful for the time and effort NH has put into the club, never said otherwise, not sure where you got another impression from. But, he has failed to deliver success. That's just a fact. If you'd really sell up (yeah, I know it's just hypothetical) to those chancers, then yes, you would have no integrity. If you really think owning a football club is just like owning any other business, then yes, you would have no integrity. I'm more than happy with my integrity thank you very much.
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Post by gasincider on Oct 27, 2014 15:26:27 GMT
Sorry Roverdrive, but why is it bollocks? I have never said he would become owner, I said he was bragging about becoming chairman. I am delighted BSS has elicited a response so quickly from NH, but am I the only one who can read on here?
Where has NH denied the story? Has he said, no McCrory will not be coming on board? No. Has he said no talks in any way have taken place with him or his associates? No. He has just said that if anything happens BSS will be the first to know. No he won't. It will require a board meeting and correspondence with the shareholders.
It is so easy to say he has not discussed our club with this chancer, but he has not taken the opportunity to do so.
To become owner, Jed would have to stump up meaningful monies to buy out the shareholders. That's not his game as shown at Hereford and Swindon. He gets a modest stake in a club, then burrows away from within.
As our friends from Hereford and Swindon have stated, don't wait until it is done and dusted, start rocking NH's boat now to ensure these people do not get a foothold. Otherwise it may be too late.
So, get off your high horse Roverdrive and start demanding no deals with this lot or we won't have a club to defend.
By the way, McCrory attended the Wrexham game the other week. Presumably because he wanted to buy a 50-50 ticket.
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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2014 15:33:26 GMT
Sorry Roverdrive, but why is it bollocks? It's bollocks because it's not true totend. No need to take it personally and certainly no need to tell me to get off of my high horse pmsl. |
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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 27, 2014 15:47:16 GMT
Personally, I think the time to be worried about (or hating) chairmen and directors is when it becomes clear that they are out to line their own pockets and care nothing about the club - even if it loses its ground. The horrors of Hereford and - looking back a little - the sale of Brighton's Goldstone Ground show what can happen to clubs in the hands of the wrong people, who become the enemy within.
We have had two relegations and are out of the League, but the board don't kick the footballs. The business of the new stadium has inevitably focused a lot of attention on NH, but I look at how he has aged over it all and I find it impossible to believe that a) he doesn't care or b) that he is up to no good or c) that he would now sell the club to asset strippers. Much abuse has been directed his way but people in his position are tough buggers and they know when to focus on the task, rather than the noise.
I look at some of the characters running football clubs up and down the country - bigger clubs than ours, often - and I don't think we're so badly off with NH. He's not an egomaniac or a crook. He's doing his best for Bristol Rovers and if he pulls off the new stadium (and I still think he might) then he could still be one of the most important people in the club's history.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 15:49:49 GMT
High Horse - Roverdrive?  With respect Incider you need to take a look at yourself more, you seem to love to stir up anything off the field or come to think of it on it too. i.e This thread, Director watch, DC didn't buy Belanta, the list goes on. Perhaps next time you should take a leaf out of your own book, What was it you said about Jason Brown- "Innocent til proven guilty" and how you thought a lot was being made of unsubstantiated claims? Have a look at yourself man, i think you'll find the Racist incident has a lot more credance than your latest claims. Ah i also see so you're ToteEnd from the IF eh...interesting. Gasincider? you act act more like a Gasoutcider. P.S I think you'll find it's others who are supposed to "like" your posts, jeez it tells us a lot when you need to "like" your own  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 27, 2014 16:32:11 GMT
Personally, I think the time to be worried about (or hating) chairmen and directors is when it becomes clear that they are out to line their own pockets and care nothing about the club - even if it loses its ground. The horrors of Hereford and - looking back a little - the sale of Brighton's Goldstone Ground show what can happen to clubs in the hands of the wrong people, who become the enemy within. We have had two relegations and are out of the League, but the board don't kick the footballs. The business of the new stadium has inevitably focused a lot of attention on NH, but I look at how he has aged over it all and I find it impossible to believe that a) he doesn't care or b) that he is up to no good or c) that he would now sell the club to asset strippers. Much abuse has been directed his way but people in his position are tough buggers and they know when to focus on the task, rather than the noise. I look at some of the characters running football clubs up and down the country - bigger clubs than ours, often - and I don't think we're so badly off with NH. He's not an egomaniac or a crook. He's doing his best for Bristol Rovers and if he pulls off the new stadium (and I still think he might) then he could still be one of the most important people in the club's history. Looking at other clubs there are only an handful of league clubs with poor owners i.e. Leeds, Cardiff, Blackpool (if you can class getting to the Premership poor ownership?) even Blackburn seemed to have come out of theirsticky patch. Hereford being a good example of a club where things can go wrong where a club is run by somebody who is a true supporter and trying to do his best, in Kytes, where things can go terribly wrong when the money dries up and they then have to seek a way out, if Sainsbury's do refuse to buy the Mem where does that leaves Rovers under NH? |
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Post by gasincider on Oct 27, 2014 17:06:05 GMT
Oh dear Equalizer, how sad. I'll tell my dad when he gets home you think I'm him.
By the way, has anybody been charged with the racist incident? No? So we are still innocent till proven guilty then. Or is that not the case when it comes to anything rovers.
And why is director watch or Balanta stirring it up?
Until McCrory came on the scene we had no connection with Balanta. Wonder why? As for director watch how can being truthful be stirring it up. Shouldn't you be asking why certain directors don't bother attending to keep an eye on their business? Or perhaps we should not be allowed the truth until it's been vetted on here.
My dad tells me not to bother with some of this stuff, but you've just given me the biggest boost for persuing the truth possible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 17:12:24 GMT
Oh dear Equalizer, how sad. I'll tell my dad when he gets home you think I'm him. Makes sense. |
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Post by gaseous on Oct 27, 2014 17:25:28 GMT
Hi I have carefully read the comments on this forum. I also have a friend who is a Hereford United supporter who has given me a detailed account of what happened there and I would do everything in my power to ensure it never happens at BRFC. This story is obviously based on gossip or speculation, therefore I am reluctant to comment unless I hear further. What I will say is that I have contacted the Chairman in light of this story and other messages you may have seen to me on twitter to ask if there is any truth in this story or any consortium takeovers. NH has assured me that I would be the first to be informed if that were the case. I have to say no such conversation has taken place, therefore again I have to assume that this story is based on gossip and speculation. best wishes Brian Thank you Brian for taking the time to find out and clear that up.  |
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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 27, 2014 18:06:22 GMT
Personally, I think the time to be worried about (or hating) chairmen and directors is when it becomes clear that they are out to line their own pockets and care nothing about the club - even if it loses its ground. The horrors of Hereford and - looking back a little - the sale of Brighton's Goldstone Ground show what can happen to clubs in the hands of the wrong people, who become the enemy within. We have had two relegations and are out of the League, but the board don't kick the footballs. The business of the new stadium has inevitably focused a lot of attention on NH, but I look at how he has aged over it all and I find it impossible to believe that a) he doesn't care or b) that he is up to no good or c) that he would now sell the club to asset strippers. Much abuse has been directed his way but people in his position are tough buggers and they know when to focus on the task, rather than the noise. I look at some of the characters running football clubs up and down the country - bigger clubs than ours, often - and I don't think we're so badly off with NH. He's not an egomaniac or a crook. He's doing his best for Bristol Rovers and if he pulls off the new stadium (and I still think he might) then he could still be one of the most important people in the club's history. Looking at other clubs there are only an handful of league clubs with poor owners i.e. Leeds, Cardiff, Blackpool (if you can class getting to the Premership poor ownership?) even Blackburn seemed to have come out of theirsticky patch. Hereford being a good example of a club where things can go wrong where a club is run by somebody who is a true supporter and trying to do his best, in Kytes, where things can go terribly wrong when the money dries up and they then have to seek a way out, if Sainsbury's do refuse to buy the Mem where does that leaves Rovers under NH? We don't know the answer to that, do we? We'd have to judge him on what happened next. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 27, 2014 18:54:22 GMT
Sorry Roverdrive, but why is it bollocks? I have never said he would become owner, I said he was bragging about becoming chairman. I am delighted BSS has elicited a response so quickly from NH, but am I the only one who can read on here? Where has NH denied the story? Has he said, no McCrory will not be coming on board? No. Has he said no talks in any way have taken place with him or his associates? No. He has just said that if anything happens BSS will be the first to know. No he won't. It will require a board meeting and correspondence with the shareholders. It is so easy to say he has not discussed our club with this chancer, but he has not taken the opportunity to do so. To become owner, Jed would have to stump up meaningful monies to buy out the shareholders. That's not his game as shown at Hereford and Swindon. He gets a modest stake in a club, then burrows away from within. As our friends from Hereford and Swindon have stated, don't wait until it is done and dusted, start rocking NH's boat now to ensure these people do not get a foothold. Otherwise it may be too late. So, get off your high horse Roverdrive and start demanding no deals with this lot or we won't have a club to defend. By the way, McCrory attended the Wrexham game the other week. Presumably because he wanted to buy a 50-50 ticket. I agree with what gasincider has posted here. Brian's post doesn't stand up to scrutiny. If Nick did ensure Brian was the first to know of any approach by McRory or other "consortium takeovers" (which is highly unlikely) then would Brian be able to tell us anyway if he is bound by a confidentiality agreement ? Trying to pretend Nick would tell Brian if he was in takeover talks and then Brian would tell us is, IMO, only adding to the feeling that something is going on. Nick has told us his plan b may involve joint venture partners, and it's up to him to choose them, but if fans feel strongly about certain people why shouldn't they be able to express their views ? |
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 27, 2014 19:21:53 GMT
Still don't see this as a credible plan a while uwe still a vague possibility. But Swiss's view of this as a plan b feels more likely, and more dangerous
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Post by empirebaypete on Oct 27, 2014 19:42:29 GMT
Bloody hell, wake up and there's a 3 page thread on a new chairman.
Sorry, but I'm busy and off out in a rush.
But isn't there some rule where he wouldn't be allowed to take over as not being "fit & proper" or some such wording?
You only have to Google his name to realise he wouldn't pass the test.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 27, 2014 20:53:54 GMT
Not sure he'd actually fail the test as he's not been convicted of any crimes?
As far as it not being credible whilst Sainsbury's isn't a dead deal surely NH & TW know where that stands? What I can't understand is why BSS as to keep asking NH for answers, re Happy Hour now this, doesn't he attend BoD meetings, if so, surely a potential takeover might get a mention??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 20:58:34 GMT
These guys are probably just mouthing of about buying us for ego related reasons The current board have £10m of loans and shares in the club and the only security is the stadium. They wont risk their own cash.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 21:11:51 GMT
Not sure he'd actually fail the test as he's not been convicted of any crimes? As far as it not being credible whilst Sainsbury's isn't a dead deal surely NH & TW know where that stands? What I can't understand is why BSS as to keep asking NH for answers, re Happy Hour now this, doesn't he attend BoD meetings, if so, surely a potential takeover might get a mention?? I asked BSS to respond to this thread and he did with hours. He clearly said he thought it was nonsense but that he took the precaution of talking to Nick first so that he could be sure of making an informed response and to make sure Nick was aware of the rumours. Personally I was very happy with the reply and the speed at which it came. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 21:30:35 GMT
Agreed Hugo. I think you could find fault with any statement if you decide to go through it with a fine tooth comb. We asked for it, he made it. I believe Brian that there is nothing to report.
I remember one poster once being so certain that boardroom changes were going to happen they posted it everywhere. Then lo and behold it turned out to be complete bollocks.
I suspect the same in this case from whoever started the rumour. I've been wrong before but that's how I see it.
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Post by Mark Ash on Oct 27, 2014 22:02:24 GMT
Oh dear Equalizer, how sad. I'll tell my dad when he gets home you think I'm him. By the way, has anybody been charged with the racist incident? No? So we are still innocent till proven guilty then. Or is that not the case when it comes to anything rovers. And why is director watch or Balanta stirring it up? Until McCrory came on the scene we had no connection with Balanta. Wonder why? As for director watch how can being truthful be stirring it up. Shouldn't you be asking why certain directors don't bother attending to keep an eye on their business? Or perhaps we should not be allowed the truth until it's been vetted on here. My dad tells me not to bother with some of this stuff, but you've just given me the biggest boost for persuing the truth possible.Could you explain what you mean by the sentence in bold, please? |
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