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Post by eastgas on Aug 19, 2019 20:04:52 GMT
Read a rather disturbing story today that it is in FIFA’s plans to scrap the tribunal payments in this country as it takes up to much of their time! They are planning on changing the payments for young talent picked up by bigger clubs to a flat rate fee. If this was to happen I could see this being another nail in lower league footballs coffin. The big clubs are already using a stack em and rack em approach as it is and this would only make it easier for them. Developing youngsters can be the life blood of some clubs in the lower leagues whereas this new rule would make it virtually pointless having academies for most teams. If the rule was ever to come into play would you see the point in BRFC having and academy or u23 side?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 20:15:23 GMT
Very bad news for all lower league clubs and yet again calls into question FIFA's fitness and propriety to run our game.
It's not all about the big clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 20:21:02 GMT
Well they have to make room for the U23 teams, that will keep the lower leagues going.
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Post by madgas on Aug 19, 2019 20:22:39 GMT
I'd suggest they dont work anyway?
At the same time- it's a poke in the eye if it's not accompanied by loan changes.
By view would be that clubs should only be able to loan out "5" players at a charge...
That way at least getting these players on loans is fairer.
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Post by gregsy on Aug 19, 2019 20:23:47 GMT
An administration nightmare for lower league clubs but surely if this happens just keep records of:
Every bit of kit supplied and the cost
Every minute of professional training given and the cost
Every journey to every match and the cost
If it adds up to more than the 'flat rate' Send um the bill.... If they refuse to pay then take them to court....
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Post by Gassy on Aug 19, 2019 20:24:10 GMT
Well it really depends on what the fee is
If they take an average price of what tribunals are, it might actually be a good thing?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Aug 19, 2019 20:34:59 GMT
Who was the last player Rovers got any money for via a tribunal?
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Post by eastgas on Aug 19, 2019 20:35:48 GMT
Well it really depends on what the fee is If they take an average price of what tribunals are, it might actually be a good thing? It was difficult to understand fully how they intended the flat rate to work, from what I could make of it and how I understood it was that 1% of transfer fees would be put into a pot over time and that would be used to compensate teams in way of a standard rate. That could be wrong I would need to look into it more to be sure |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 19, 2019 20:41:34 GMT
Who was the last player Rovers got any money for via a tribunal? I can't recall any, certainly not any where we got a decent fee to make this a concern for us. |
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Post by eastgas on Aug 19, 2019 20:42:39 GMT
Who was the last player Rovers got any money for via a tribunal? Not sure on that one tbh possibly the young goalkeeper? Someone else will surely know for sure. I do believe that Exeter were awarded £2.5M for Ethan ampadu though |
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Post by axegas on Aug 19, 2019 20:43:41 GMT
Who was the last player Rovers got any money for via a tribunal? The last accounts showed that we got £20k for a youth player. Not sure if that was decided by a tribunal or not though. |
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Post by eastgas on Aug 19, 2019 20:44:23 GMT
Who was the last player Rovers got any money for via a tribunal? I can't recall any, certainly not any where we got a decent fee to make this a concern for us. We did receive a six figure sum for Scott Sinclair, I think it was rumoured to be around £200k |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 20:47:30 GMT
I can't recall any, certainly not any where we got a decent fee to make this a concern for us. We did receive a six figure sum for Scott Sinclair, I think it was rumoured to be around £200k Initial fee yes but c £1m with add ons. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 19, 2019 20:49:17 GMT
We did receive a six figure sum for Scott Sinclair, I think it was rumoured to be around £200k Initial fee yes but c £1m with add ons. Don’t think it got anywhere near it though in the end did it? From what I remember it was Sinclair, Macey & Santos Stand to be corrected though |
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 19, 2019 22:10:05 GMT
Initial fee yes but c £1m with add ons. Don’t think it got anywhere near it though in the end did it? From what I remember it was Sinclair, Macey & Santos Stand to be corrected though All within a couple of years of eachother we lost Macey to Arsenal, Santos to Derby, Donavan Wilson to Wolves, Marcus Beauchamp to Norwich and Ollie Mehew to Blackburn. Think we got small fees for all of them but no idea how much. I imagine they’d have been mainly based around what they went on to do for the clubs but none of them have really had an impact so probably not worth a lot. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 19, 2019 22:16:11 GMT
Who was the last player Rovers got any money for via a tribunal? Not sure on that one tbh possibly the young goalkeeper? Someone else will surely know for sure. I do believe that Exeter were awarded £2.5M for Ethan ampadu though They actually played him in their first team though. How many 16 year olds have played in Rovers first team? |
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Post by eastgas on Aug 19, 2019 23:02:42 GMT
Not sure on that one tbh possibly the young goalkeeper? Someone else will surely know for sure. I do believe that Exeter were awarded £2.5M for Ethan ampadu though They actually played him in their first team though. How many 16 year olds have played in Rovers first team? For sure that’s why they managed to get such a fee for ampadu as he made first team appearances and I’m not saying rovers have ever had a player like this. I was just stating the potential fees possible for clubs at lower levels if you are lucky enough to develop such players. There are many examples of clubs receiving £1M+ fees from tribunals. If the potential to earn large sums of money from developing players is removed then clubs will give up on investing time and funds to nurture young talent to have them just taken away for pittance. Bristol rovers may not of had a player like ampadu come through their ranks before but the potential is there |
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 19, 2019 23:14:54 GMT
Read a rather disturbing story today that it is in FIFA’s plans to scrap the tribunal payments in this country as it takes up to much of their time! They are planning on changing the payments for young talent picked up by bigger clubs to a flat rate fee. If this was to happen I could see this being another nail in lower league footballs coffin. The big clubs are already using a stack em and rack em approach as it is and this would only make it easier for them. Developing youngsters can be the life blood of some clubs in the lower leagues whereas this new rule would make it virtually pointless having academies for most teams. If the rule was ever to come into play would you see the point in BRFC having and academy or u23 side? Yet another sign that football as a game is dying and on it’s failing legs, it’s big business for big businessmen, the smaller teams are like corner shops..... closing and going bust. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 20, 2019 6:57:42 GMT
Read a rather disturbing story today that it is in FIFA’s plans to scrap the tribunal payments in this country as it takes up to much of their time! They are planning on changing the payments for young talent picked up by bigger clubs to a flat rate fee. If this was to happen I could see this being another nail in lower league footballs coffin. The big clubs are already using a stack em and rack em approach as it is and this would only make it easier for them. Developing youngsters can be the life blood of some clubs in the lower leagues whereas this new rule would make it virtually pointless having academies for most teams. If the rule was ever to come into play would you see the point in BRFC having and academy or u23 side? Yet another sign that football as a game is dying and on it’s failing legs, it’s big business for big businessmen, the smaller teams are like corner shops..... closing and going bust. Time to be Lidl/Aldi then  |
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Post by peterparker on Aug 20, 2019 7:06:33 GMT
I though tribunals were pretty much scrapped anyway ISn't that what the EPPP is all about. Clubs get paid x depending on the status of their academy/youth set up
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