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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 14, 2019 12:32:04 GMT
Where has your other post gone ?
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 14, 2019 12:32:55 GMT
Ah, I see it now !
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 14, 2019 13:29:09 GMT
Well it's plastered all over Twitter. If it's an issue it will be taken off on Twitter and the link will no longer be available anyway. That was not what I asked, the family must be wrecked by this and I don't see why we should make it worse ? Feel for his family but maybe he should have thought about that, it's his family after all?
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 14, 2019 13:32:01 GMT
I doubt he thought about his family at all ! It certainly is not any fault of the family and they should not have to suffer any more than they are.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 14, 2019 13:56:53 GMT
Nothing to do with football , can someone close this down As it’s heavily related to our club, it will stay for now.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 14, 2019 13:59:37 GMT
I doubt he thought about his family at all ! It certainly is not any fault of the family and they should not have to suffer any more than they are. Sadly that is the ripple effect caused by his own actions. Just imagine if he was actually going to meet a real young boy, the damage would have been far far greater just to satisfy a sick desire. The fact he knew what he was doing was wrong as he “didn’t want to get caught out as a dirty peado” says everything about the potential remorseless hideous crime he was prepared to commit.
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 14, 2019 14:14:45 GMT
I doubt he thought about his family at all ! It certainly is not any fault of the family and they should not have to suffer any more than they are. Sadly that is the ripple effect caused by his own actions. Just imagine if he was actually going to meet a real young boy, the damage would have been far far greater just to satisfy a sick desire. The fact he knew what he was doing was wrong as he “didn’t want to get caught out as a dirty peado” says everything about the potential remorseless hideous crime he was prepared to commit. Lots of other ripples that could turn into a tsunami but best leave it at that.
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Post by badengas on Sept 14, 2019 14:33:41 GMT
Vile, horrible worthless piece of sh**. Hope he dies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 17:10:37 GMT
Vile, horrible worthless piece of sh**. Hope he dies. Stay classy man.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 14, 2019 18:02:24 GMT
Anyone have any idea how he can reconcile this with going to church. Unless church means nothing and he just uses it to bolster a respectable image. I would be interested to hear peoples points of view on this
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 14, 2019 18:38:43 GMT
Sorry but can someone confirm who is bloke actually is? I'm pretty sure I know but certainly wouldn't want to pin something like this on someone by mistake! If it's who I think it is, is he not a fairly irregular user of this forum? You can see his face in his Twitter account above Understood. I've looked at his Facebook too but still not 100% sure.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 14, 2019 18:55:18 GMT
Anyone have any idea how he can reconcile this with going to church. Unless church means nothing and he just uses it to bolster a respectable image. I would be interested to hear peoples points of view on this The 2 things are not in any way linked.
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Post by badengas on Sept 14, 2019 20:03:11 GMT
Anyone have any idea how he can reconcile this with going to church. Unless church means nothing and he just uses it to bolster a respectable image. I would be interested to hear peoples points of view on this The 2 things are not in any way linked. I have no religious beliefs but a huge amount of what is wrong in the world is done in the name of one or other God or prophet. I admire people who stick to their guns for what they believe but cannot for the life of me understand the lack of tolerance for others in built to most religions. This guy is not an advert for his religion anymore than a suicide bomber, just an evil prick who should be shot.
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Post by aghast on Sept 14, 2019 20:03:23 GMT
Anyone have any idea how he can reconcile this with going to church. Unless church means nothing and he just uses it to bolster a respectable image. I would be interested to hear peoples points of view on this Church means nothing. People often express shock that a churchgoing person can do things like this. Almost suggesting that if an atheist did it, it would be less surprising. Religion and moral behaviour have very little in common.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:23:27 GMT
The 2 things are not in any way linked. I have no religious beliefs but a huge amount of what is wrong in the world is done in the name of one or other God or prophet. I admire people who stick to their guns for what they believe but cannot for the life of me understand the lack of tolerance for others in built to most religions. This guy is not an advert for his religion anymore than a suicide bomber, just an evil prick who should be shot. Religion is obviously a hugely broad term and almost implies the world view of different faith groups are consistent, which they aren't and differ considerably.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:30:02 GMT
Anyone have any idea how he can reconcile this with going to church. Unless church means nothing and he just uses it to bolster a respectable image. I would be interested to hear peoples points of view on this Church means nothing. People often express shock that a churchgoing person can do things like this. Almost suggesting that if an atheist did it, it would be less surprising. Religion and moral behaviour have very little in common. I'm pretty sure if you researched sex offenders and those who commit the most vile crimes across the country, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority wouldn't be holding any kind of established faith at the time. Of course horrible stuff can be carried out by anyone aligning themselves to a church. The surprise/shock lies in the fact this kind of behaviour fundementally goes against the core teachings of the church.
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Post by syg on Sept 15, 2019 10:11:54 GMT
I think that anyboby who takes the bible seriously is more likely to be warped. This is the book where,Genesis if I recall, says stoning to death is ok and if you dont stone to death then you should be stoned to death and its a sin to wear mixed fabrics, thus wearing the rovers shirt is a sin. But its ok you can just pick the bits you want and ignore the thousands of contradictions. Almost identical to the koran with a few name changes. In the words of s fry, religion, f### it.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 15, 2019 11:28:55 GMT
Anyone have any idea how he can reconcile this with going to church. Unless church means nothing and he just uses it to bolster a respectable image. I would be interested to hear peoples points of view on this Church means nothing. People often express shock that a churchgoing person can do things like this. Almost suggesting that if an atheist did it, it would be less surprising. Religion and moral behaviour have very little in common. Spot on. I was raised RC and even at a very young age, I would ask my parents why bad people would go to church. I quickly noticed how many nasty types would go to confession only to repeat what they had previously been doing. Mum used to say that church was like hospital but for sinners but I could never buy into the way Catholicism actually relied upon guilt. The worst types, for me, were those who didn’t go to church to pray but went to be seen to pray. As I’ve got older, I have become more cynical even though I’d class myself as a Christian, I don’t feel the need to prove that by being seen at church. It really makes me angry that someone who was prepared to do something so heinous, can hide behind religion and because I am pretty sure he was not a religious person before. I’m pretty positive that this was the actions of a person who was caught out and would use anything to try to avoid going to prison. I know Christianity preaches of tolerance and forgiveness but there has to be a limit to that.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 15, 2019 11:55:32 GMT
I think that anyboby who takes the bible seriously is more likely to be warped. This is the book where,Genesis if I recall, says stoning to death is ok and if you dont stone to death then you should be stoned to death and its a sin to wear mixed fabrics, thus wearing the rovers shirt is a sin. But its ok you can just pick the bits you want and ignore the thousands of contradictions. Almost identical to the koran with a few name changes. In the words of s fry, religion, f### it. Well there’s an uneducated view of something you clearly have little knowledge about. But that’s not a debate for this thread. People that carry out hideous acts are no more warped whether they read the Bible or not. If you are committed to doing a pre-meditated crime, as in this case, you will do it regardless of your religious beliefs or standards. Unfortunately religions of all denomination are the perfect environment for child abuse, however it is down to the founding organisations to make sure they have all the relevant child safety policies in place and in operation. Even football clubs are a perfect environment for this kind of thing to happen, as recent events at Crewe and Chelsea have well evidenced. There were no mention of those abusers were of religious background. They were football coaches with a warped and degrading perversion who took advantage of their trusted position.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 15, 2019 18:04:09 GMT
I think that anyboby who takes the bible seriously is more likely to be warped. This is the book where,Genesis if I recall, says stoning to death is ok and if you dont stone to death then you should be stoned to death and its a sin to wear mixed fabrics, thus wearing the rovers shirt is a sin. But its ok you can just pick the bits you want and ignore the thousands of contradictions. Almost identical to the koran with a few name changes. In the words of s fry, religion, f### it. Well there’s an uneducated view of something you clearly have little knowledge about. But that’s not a debate for this thread. People that carry out hideous acts are no more warped whether they read the Bible or not. If you are committed to doing a pre-meditated crime, as in this case, you will do it regardless of your religious beliefs or standards. Unfortunately religions of all denomination are the perfect environment for child abuse, however it is down to the founding organisations to make sure they have all the relevant child safety policies in place and in operation. Even football clubs are a perfect environment for this kind of thing to happen, as recent events at Crewe and Chelsea have well evidenced. There were no mention of those abusers were of religious background. They were football coaches with a warped and degrading perversion who took advantage of their trusted position. Yes I quite get that, but unless he thinks his religion says it's ok to do that then how can he do it both? For me it's like behaving in two opposing ways which is naturally dysfunctional.
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