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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 18:26:44 GMT
Church means nothing. People often express shock that a churchgoing person can do things like this. Almost suggesting that if an atheist did it, it would be less surprising. Religion and moral behaviour have very little in common. I'm pretty sure if you researched sex offenders and those who commit the most vile crimes across the country, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority wouldn't be holding any kind of established faith at the time. Of course horrible stuff can be carried out by anyone aligning themselves to a church. The surprise/shock lies in the fact this kind of behaviour fundementally goes against the core teachings of the church. Apart from Rotherham.
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Post by rex on Sept 17, 2019 16:09:14 GMT
Church means nothing. People often express shock that a churchgoing person can do things like this. Almost suggesting that if an atheist did it, it would be less surprising. Religion and moral behaviour have very little in common. I'm pretty sure if you researched sex offenders and those who commit the most vile crimes across the country, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority wouldn't be holding any kind of established faith at the time.Of course horrible stuff can be carried out by anyone aligning themselves to a church. The surprise/shock lies in the fact this kind of behaviour fundementally goes against the core teachings of the church. I'm pretty sure of the exact opposite! As others have said, whether you're religious or not has no bearing on whether you're going to be a sex offender or not. but there are certainly plenty who have used religion as a front for their offences.
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Post by lpgas on Sept 23, 2019 18:56:23 GMT
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Sept 23, 2019 18:57:51 GMT
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 23, 2019 18:57:51 GMT
Still a nonce then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 18:58:16 GMT
Rickie Lambert's just signed for Southampton too
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Post by glengas on Sept 23, 2019 19:12:47 GMT
This was already covered last week under the thread Shocked. Believe he has been banned from Rovers home and away.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 23, 2019 19:42:57 GMT
Anyone seen the reports coming from Paris about Princess Diana? Hope it’s not true, she really is the Princess of our Hearts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 19:54:10 GMT
See page two, thread entitled shocked.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 12, 2019 13:31:54 GMT
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Post by inee on Oct 12, 2019 17:21:33 GMT
deserves to be hung drawn n quartered dirty lady garden ,isn't it strange how different judges give different sentences, a similar case perv gets locked up, seems some judges always give lenient sentences makes one wonder if they sympathise with the dirty lady garden scum
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Post by inee on Oct 12, 2019 17:22:22 GMT
Anyone seen the reports coming from Paris about Princess Diana? Hope it’s not true, she really is the Princess of our Hearts. got a link?
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Post by inee on Oct 12, 2019 17:45:44 GMT
I think that anyboby who takes the bible seriously is more likely to be warped. This is the book where,Genesis if I recall, says stoning to death is ok and if you dont stone to death then you should be stoned to death and its a sin to wear mixed fabrics, thus wearing the rovers shirt is a sin. But its ok you can just pick the bits you want and ignore the thousands of contradictions. Almost identical to the koran with a few name changes. In the words of s fry, religion, f### it. Well there’s an uneducated view of something you clearly have little knowledge about. But that’s not a debate for this thread. People that carry out hideous acts are no more warped whether they read the Bible or not. If you are committed to doing a pre-meditated crime, as in this case, you will do it regardless of your religious beliefs or standards. Unfortunately religions of all denomination are the perfect environment for child abuse, however it is down to the founding organisations to make sure they have all the relevant child safety policies in place and in operation. Even football clubs are a perfect environment for this kind of thing to happen, as recent events at Crewe and Chelsea have well evidenced. There were no mention of those abusers were of religious background. They were football coaches with a warped and degrading perversion who took advantage of their trusted position. How many of these religious organisations have polices in place or have policies to prevent the pervs rejoining the faith after conviction ??
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Post by inee on Oct 12, 2019 17:50:27 GMT
I doubt he thought about his family at all ! It certainly is not any fault of the family and they should not have to suffer any more than they are. A good point you raise, people often forget the families and how heavily it must weigh on their partners or kids etc, what i cant believe is how that perv had the fecking neck to whine about losing his marriage and home due to his own actions
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 13, 2019 10:52:25 GMT
Well there’s an uneducated view of something you clearly have little knowledge about. But that’s not a debate for this thread. People that carry out hideous acts are no more warped whether they read the Bible or not. If you are committed to doing a pre-meditated crime, as in this case, you will do it regardless of your religious beliefs or standards. Unfortunately religions of all denomination are the perfect environment for child abuse, however it is down to the founding organisations to make sure they have all the relevant child safety policies in place and in operation. Even football clubs are a perfect environment for this kind of thing to happen, as recent events at Crewe and Chelsea have well evidenced. There were no mention of those abusers were of religious background. They were football coaches with a warped and degrading perversion who took advantage of their trusted position. Yes I quite get that, but unless he thinks his religion says it's ok to do that then how can he do it both? For me it's like behaving in two opposing ways which is naturally dysfunctional. The problem is that humans use GODs name to justify their hatred but that really is for a thread in another section
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 13, 2019 10:59:36 GMT
It's not going to take long until a 'Ted see's this post, and before you know it we're pedos as well as horse punchers... 🤐 I would think even the most delinquent of Ted would not tar all of us with that brush. It’s like saying all catholic’s are peados because a few of their bishops have been caught in the pants of their alter boys. I’m pretty sure we can all stand together on this vile and debased crime. They are well aware of it but even they are not going to tar us with it. There was a time when everything would have been used but it does seem that it’s now a minority who even see us as any kind of rival. Given their own problems, in the 3 lions, I think they are now having to redress who they see as true supporters. If anything like that happened with our fans, I think I’d just stop going. The injuries were horrendous and life changing.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 13, 2019 12:35:16 GMT
Well there’s an uneducated view of something you clearly have little knowledge about. But that’s not a debate for this thread. People that carry out hideous acts are no more warped whether they read the Bible or not. If you are committed to doing a pre-meditated crime, as in this case, you will do it regardless of your religious beliefs or standards. Unfortunately religions of all denomination are the perfect environment for child abuse, however it is down to the founding organisations to make sure they have all the relevant child safety policies in place and in operation. Even football clubs are a perfect environment for this kind of thing to happen, as recent events at Crewe and Chelsea have well evidenced. There were no mention of those abusers were of religious background. They were football coaches with a warped and degrading perversion who took advantage of their trusted position. How many of these religious organisations have polices in place or have policies to prevent the pervs rejoining the faith after conviction ?? I would assume they have more policies and procedures in place now than they did some 20 years ago.
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