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Post by landrover on Sept 28, 2019 19:04:54 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 28, 2019 19:07:05 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. Many teams have failed to do so before and after in their first season. A return is not a given even for a big league club. Also, if you remember we went up automatically the following year. We were the first team to do that in a long time too.
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Post by knowall on Sept 28, 2019 19:20:58 GMT
Crap, John Ward took the us to the conference, DC had just a few weeks to try to stop it against all odds. GC had far bigger odds to beat when he took over last December, DC just had to avoid defeat to Mansfield who even turned up w/o their own kit so started with 3 defenders, I can't imagine GC would have done similar! I enjoyed the spell under DC but this continued hero worship by some posters is just plain odd. If we draw Walsall in the cup I can imagine some of them saying they hope they best us!! It is not a case of hero worship, it is appreciation for a job well done including two promotions, attractive football, and regardless of how we came to be in the Conference he got us back into the league at the first attempt while many clubs languish in the conference for years. Many of our supporters consequently are following his career and wish him well, I am surprised that anyone would find that odd?
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 28, 2019 19:43:36 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. he had a lot of luck with both promotions,maybe he took us further than he thought he would
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 28, 2019 20:28:17 GMT
Crap, John Ward took the us to the conference, DC had just a few weeks to try to stop it against all odds. GC had far bigger odds to beat when he took over last December, DC just had to avoid defeat to Mansfield who even turned up w/o their own kit so started with 3 defenders, I can't imagine GC would have done similar! I enjoyed the spell under DC but this continued hero worship by some posters is just plain odd. If we draw Walsall in the cup I can imagine some of them saying they hope they best us!! Why does it have to be GC vs DC? Why can't we just be pleased for both of them? Comparing their records to date with us compared to previous managers, they are both high up the list for us.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 28, 2019 21:15:53 GMT
GC had far bigger odds to beat when he took over last December, DC just had to avoid defeat to Mansfield who even turned up w/o their own kit so started with 3 defenders, I can't imagine GC would have done similar! I enjoyed the spell under DC but this continued hero worship by some posters is just plain odd. If we draw Walsall in the cup I can imagine some of them saying they hope they best us!! It is not a case of hero worship, it is appreciation for a job well done including two promotions, attractive football, and regardless of how we came to be in the Conference he got us back into the league at the first attempt while many clubs languish in the conference for years. Many of our supporters consequently are following his career and wish him well, I am surprised that anyone would find that odd? Well said knowall. I shudder at the thought that we could have been another Wrexham, Stockport etc. Look at Chesterfield and Hartlepool. Even Notts have lost more games already than we did in our entire season at that level. DC saved us from potential darkness for years and I for one wish him all the very best in his career. Does that mean I'd want his Walsall team to beat us? Of course not. Any Gashead who thinks that frankly is an idiot that doesn't understand the bigger picture of human emotion.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 28, 2019 21:27:15 GMT
GC had far bigger odds to beat when he took over last December, DC just had to avoid defeat to Mansfield who even turned up w/o their own kit so started with 3 defenders, I can't imagine GC would have done similar! I enjoyed the spell under DC but this continued hero worship by some posters is just plain odd. If we draw Walsall in the cup I can imagine some of them saying they hope they best us!! Why does it have to be GC vs DC? Why can't we just be pleased for both of them? Comparing their records to date with us compared to previous managers, they are both high up the list for us. DC for what he did for our club (Two promotions,and back to back) is our greatest manager ever by pure facts,and stats and should be respect given the timing of what he did. But that said,going onto GC - his stats are amazing thus far,and has given us a fighting chance of aiming for the playoffs come May - that DC may not have been able to given us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 21:35:03 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. he had a lot of luck with both promotions,maybe he took us further than he thought he would Two pathetic posts about 2 hard earned promotions over 49 and 46 games. A history with hardly any promotions and you 2 clowns putting down the most recent ones.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 28, 2019 21:45:52 GMT
As Knowall stated, it is showing appreciation and respect to someone who worked really hard for us in difficult times. It doesn't detract from what GC is doing either.
I for one will always be grateful, until he beats us in a game of course, and wish him and the other players well.
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Post by 31130 on Sept 28, 2019 21:47:30 GMT
Cracking goal from James Clarke today.
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Post by landrover on Sept 28, 2019 22:05:27 GMT
he had a lot of luck with both promotions,maybe he took us further than he thought he would Two pathetic posts about 2 hard earned promotions over 49 and 46 games. A history with hardly any promotions and you 2 clowns putting down the most recent ones. I’d sooner be a clown than a numpty. If you could point out to me where I’m not stating a fact please. It’s this constant deification of DC that is truly pathetic. He made a pigs ear of bringing new and expensive players to the club. I dread to think where we would be if he had carried on. He was the perfect fit at the perfect time but he had to go. Get over it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 23:56:50 GMT
Two pathetic posts about 2 hard earned promotions over 49 and 46 games. A history with hardly any promotions and you 2 clowns putting down the most recent ones. I’d sooner be a clown than a numpty. If you could point out to me where I’m not stating a fact please. It’s this constant deification of DC that is truly pathetic. He made a pigs ear of bringing new and expensive players to the club. I dread to think where we would be if he had carried on. He was the perfect fit at the perfect time but he had to go. Get over it. Like i said before we havnt had many promotions so why on earth would any rovers fan knock any one of them? Totally pathetic. Luton were in the conference for about 5 years and lincoln longer while stockport and others never managed to get back into the league,those are the real facts not the garbage your peddling. But hey keep on knocking if it suits your agenda. Who needs city fans to knock our small number of promotions when we have the likes of you and your little mate doing such a good job of it?
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Post by axegas on Sept 29, 2019 0:25:44 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. We had no divine right to beat any of those teams, games aren’t won by attendances but by the 11 men on the field. Just look at clubs like Wrexham, Chesterfield and Notts County all of whom have found that league tough. We deserved to go up that year and we did, these attempts to downplay what DC did for us are quite frankly pathetic.
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Post by landrover on Sept 29, 2019 3:12:09 GMT
DC’s starting point was incredibly low. The fact it was over a long 46 game season played into our hands as we had time to right the wrongs as it were. Some of the teams weren’t even fully professional! Add on the fact that managers before 1987 didn’t have the luxury of the play off system and it’s clear that his achievement of getting us back into the league weren’t exactly unexpected. The second promotion was far superior than the first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 9:37:24 GMT
GC had far bigger odds to beat when he took over last December, DC just had to avoid defeat to Mansfield who even turned up w/o their own kit so started with 3 defenders, I can't imagine GC would have done similar! I enjoyed the spell under DC but this continued hero worship by some posters is just plain odd. If we draw Walsall in the cup I can imagine some of them saying they hope they best us!! Why does it have to be GC vs DC? Why can't we just be pleased for both of them? Comparing their records to date with us compared to previous managers, they are both high up the list for us. Agreed. The whole DC v GC thing that some have invented is getting tedious now. If it wasn't for Darrell Clarke, we'd probably be complaining about only drawing with Solihull Moors now. He is one of the greatest managers this club has ever had and frankly, the way some treat him on here is disgraceful at worst and ungrateful at best. He lost his job for one reason. Stefan Payne. DC's failure to keep replacing quality strikers with a fraction of the value of the departed player was his downfall. It was inevitable that eventually he would get that most important position wrong and when he did, we started losing games. He didn't become a negative coach or get obsessed with badges. He just signed a Payne (literally!) rather than a Clarke-Harris. He deserves success elsewhere unless he plays us and would be welcomed back as a hero, as should all who were on the journey with him. However, he's gone and this is now unquestionably Graham Coughlan's team, both in personnel and style. I had grave misgivings but he is winning me over as he wins games. It's not as pretty but he has found a formula that works and in JCH has a superb striker. That goal yesterday was like watching Jason Roberts at his best. GC us a hard working manager who has a team in his own image. None of us expect to see players of the likes of Messi and Ronaldo when we watch Rovers, but we do exoect commitment. And we have it, in spades. A decent keeper, three very good centre halves, a battling midfield and a quality striker. Add a left winger (THD?) and hope Sercombe keeps yesterday's form and we have a decent team in this league. Better than I thought we'd have anyway. Time to forget the DC v GC stuff. Let's celebrate what DC did for us and back GC as he tries to create similar memories. UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 29, 2019 9:46:37 GMT
DC took us from League 2 to the Conference then to league 1 Crap, John Ward took the us to the conference, DC had just a few weeks to try to stop it against all odds. Come on stapleton, we were 4/5 places off the bottom. Football wasn’t the best but if JW had stayed we’d have stayed up imo. DC was left in an awful position. With Gows injury it was the perfect storm fir us. You can blame JW but whatever, DC took us back up and more. DC will always be a legend for this club. It’s great to see Walsall now beginning to gel and move up the table. Amongst all this it’s amazing to see the goal machine that is James Clark, where were his goals with us? I thought he got a nose bleed every time he crossed the half way line. Amazing.😯 UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 29, 2019 9:53:41 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. A look at the National Table, National North and South would tell you it’s not that easy. Getting on for 15 former league clubs still there. Oxford, a similar club to us with similar ambitions took 5 years to return. Best not to underestimate the job DC did or have a big sense of entitlement because it usually bites you on the ****. But I agree that we are now at the place we should be and I know who we need to thank, as I suspect most gasheads do. UTG! edit: Came to this late due to pop ups about Aldi! (What’s that all about?) and have seen that others said what I said in previous posts. Jomo, 1970 and Knowall absolutely agree.
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 29, 2019 9:55:09 GMT
he had a lot of luck with both promotions,maybe he took us further than he thought he would Two pathetic posts about 2 hard earned promotions over 49 and 46 games. A history with hardly any promotions and you 2 clowns putting down the most recent ones. hes not coming back get over it
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 29, 2019 9:55:45 GMT
GC had far bigger odds to beat when he took over last December, DC just had to avoid defeat to Mansfield who even turned up w/o their own kit so started with 3 defenders, I can't imagine GC would have done similar! I enjoyed the spell under DC but this continued hero worship by some posters is just plain odd. If we draw Walsall in the cup I can imagine some of them saying they hope they best us!! It is not a case of hero worship, it is appreciation for a job well done including two promotions, attractive football, and regardless of how we came to be in the Conference he got us back into the league at the first attempt while many clubs languish in the conference for years. Many of our supporters consequently are following his career and wish him well, I am surprised that anyone would find that odd? Exactly, well said.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 10:34:29 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. A look at the National Table, National North and South would tell you it’s not that easy. Getting on for 15 former league clubs still there. Oxford, a similar club to us with similar ambitions took 5 years to return. Best not to underestimate the job DC did or have a big sense of entitlement because it usually bites you on the ****. But I agree that we are now at the place we should be and I know who we need to thank, as I suspect most gasheads do. UTG! edit: Came to this late due to pop ups about Aldi! (What’s that all about?) and have seen that others said what I said in previous posts. Jomo, 1970 and Knowall absolutely agree. Glad I’m not the only one to have my access to the forum sabotaged by Aldi - they briefly overtook Sainsbury’s as my most hated supermarket last night!
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