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Post by tomylil on Oct 30, 2019 12:42:10 GMT
Pretty pointless comparison, we should be looking at the likes of Rotherham with regards to our aims. I don't expect us to hold our own in the Championship, however it would be nice to have a lovely stadium and dip our toe in. Promotion reward and parachute payment has to be worth a few quid. Yep, plus some monster games whilst in the Champ meaning a packed stadium . I accept of course that seats need to be installed if we actually managed to hang in there a few seasons, but conversely by being successful every other year we ought to attract genuine interest in acquiring us rather than charlatans.
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Post by baggins on Oct 30, 2019 12:54:24 GMT
Promotion reward and parachute payment has to be worth a few quid. Yep, plus some monster games whilst in the Champ meaning a packed stadium . I accept of course that seats need to be installed if we actually managed to hang in there a few seasons, but conversely by being successful every other year we ought to attract genuine interest in acquiring us rather than charlatans. Packed stadium for the first 10, 11 games, then we'll be bottom and everyone will get fed up of paying more money to watching a losing Team week in week out. Shame really. Can't we ask Santa for a really rich owner for a change? Someone who actually has a full wallet?
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 30, 2019 12:57:16 GMT
Promotion reward and parachute payment has to be worth a few quid. Yep, plus some monster games whilst in the Champ meaning a packed stadium . I accept of course that seats need to be installed if we actually managed to hang in there a few seasons, but conversely by being successful every other year we ought to attract genuine interest in acquiring us rather than charlatans. Rotherham since building the New York City Stadium;
12/13 2nd League 2 (P) 13/14 4th League 1 (P) 14/15 21st Championship 15/16 21st Championship 16/17 24th Championship (R) 17/18 4th League 1 (P) 18/19 22nd Championship (R)
Previous 7 seasons;
05/06 20th League 1 06/07 23rd League 1 (R) 07/08 9th League 2 08/09 14th League 2 09/10 5th League 2 10/11 9th League 2 11/12 10th League 2
A clear example of how investment off the pitch in facilities can provide the platform to play at a higher level. Rotherham aren't throwing cash around by any means.
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Post by baggins on Oct 30, 2019 12:59:45 GMT
Yep, plus some monster games whilst in the Champ meaning a packed stadium . I accept of course that seats need to be installed if we actually managed to hang in there a few seasons, but conversely by being successful every other year we ought to attract genuine interest in acquiring us rather than charlatans. Rotherham since building the New York City Stadium;
12/13 2nd League 2 (P) 13/14 4th League 1 (P) 14/15 21st Championship 15/16 21st Championship 16/17 24th Championship (R) 17/18 4th League 1 (P) 18/19 22nd Championship (R)
Previous 7 seasons;
05/06 20th League 1 06/07 23rd League 1 (R) 07/08 9th League 2 08/09 14th League 2 09/10 5th League 2 10/11 9th League 2 11/12 10th League 2
A clear example of how investment off the pitch in facilities can provide the platform to play at a higher level. Rotherham aren't throwing cash around by any means.
Are you purposely trying to upset everyone?
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 30, 2019 13:04:01 GMT
Makes you realise that the leagues are a pointless competition for us now. We should be concentrating on all the cups. Decent chance of a bonus day against the Big Six Away, getting to the Final of the FL Trophy or in time the FA Vase, There's now absolutely no point in us getting promoted until we have a backer who is prepared to lose money on their investment. We still have to stay in the league though. Its very competitive this year especially. I'm not so sure now
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 30, 2019 13:06:20 GMT
Yep, plus some monster games whilst in the Champ meaning a packed stadium . I accept of course that seats need to be installed if we actually managed to hang in there a few seasons, but conversely by being successful every other year we ought to attract genuine interest in acquiring us rather than charlatans. Rotherham since building the New York City Stadium;
12/13 2nd League 2 (P) 13/14 4th League 1 (P) 14/15 21st Championship 15/16 21st Championship 16/17 24th Championship (R) 17/18 4th League 1 (P) 18/19 22nd Championship (R)
Previous 7 seasons;
05/06 20th League 1 06/07 23rd League 1 (R) 07/08 9th League 2 08/09 14th League 2 09/10 5th League 2 10/11 9th League 2 11/12 10th League 2
A clear example of how investment off the pitch in facilities can provide the platform to play at a higher level. Rotherham aren't throwing cash around by any means.
Meanwhile attendances have almost doubled from 5/6K to 10K!! This in a small S Yorks town who have to compete with several bigger clubs nearby for fans.
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Post by peterparker on Oct 30, 2019 13:10:13 GMT
for some context on Rotherham www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/sport/view,rotherham-united-unveil-club-accounts-for-201718_30900.htm CHAIRMAN Tony Stewart pumped £2 million of extra money into Rotherham United during the club's League One promotion campaign, club accounts for 2017/18 have revealed. In the year following the club's 2017 relegation from the Championship turnover dropped from nearly £13 million to just under £10m. Stewart raised the sponsorship contribution of his company, ASD Lighting, from £1m in 2016/17 to £3m. The accounts, published yesterday, showed Rotherham made a pre-tax loss of £510,000 in 2017/18, compared to more than £1.2m in the previous 12 months. Other key points for 2017/18 included: A loss in television revenue of around £4.8m. A reduction in the wage bill from just under £8.7m to £6.3m. Player purchases amounted to £270,000 with player sales totalling £800,000. There was a drop in season-ticket sales from 6,194 to 5,582.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 30, 2019 13:25:58 GMT
for some context on Rotherham www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/sport/view,rotherham-united-unveil-club-accounts-for-201718_30900.htm CHAIRMAN Tony Stewart pumped £2 million of extra money into Rotherham United during the club's League One promotion campaign, club accounts for 2017/18 have revealed. In the year following the club's 2017 relegation from the Championship turnover dropped from nearly £13 million to just under £10m. Stewart raised the sponsorship contribution of his company, ASD Lighting, from £1m in 2016/17 to £3m. The accounts, published yesterday, showed Rotherham made a pre-tax loss of £510,000 in 2017/18, compared to more than £1.2m in the previous 12 months. Other key points for 2017/18 included: A loss in television revenue of around £4.8m. A reduction in the wage bill from just under £8.7m to £6.3m. Player purchases amounted to £270,000 with player sales totalling £800,000. There was a drop in season-ticket sales from 6,194 to 5,582. It's absolutely not a case of "build it, and they will come" however, there was certainly a huge bounce returning to Rotherham but having a town centre stadium with excellent facilities was also a massive thing. The sponsorship deal while a bit of a fiddle was still an investment in the club and above board. Happens all over football being it Etihad being used to syphon money into Man City or a plumber sponsoring his Sunday League team to make that tax deductible.
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 30, 2019 13:54:20 GMT
Still swap places with them in a heart beat. They will eventually get into the promised land of the premier league and we risk losing future generations of supporters. The gulf between us has never been as big, good luck to them I say. If only we had owners like the duke of guernsey
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Post by baggins on Oct 30, 2019 13:57:37 GMT
Still swap places with them in a heart beat. They will eventually get into the promised land of the premier league and we risk losing future generations of supporters. The gulf between us has never been as big, good luck to them I say. If only we had owners like the duke of guernsey Lansdowne has pumped how many hundreds of millions into that lot? And they're still no where near the "promised land". You're wishing them good luck? Seriously?
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Oct 30, 2019 14:18:15 GMT
Pretty pointless comparison, we should be looking at the likes of Rotherham with regards to our aims. I don't expect us to hold our own in the Championship, however it would be nice to have a lovely stadium and dip our toe in. What a great idea. Unfortunately, expectations from fans will ramp up if we get there, and we'd either have to invest similarly, or sink back down to our traditional level. This is a major reason why the Al-Qadis have always talked about evolution, not revolution. That's the only way to realistically sustain a club of our size in the Championship.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Oct 30, 2019 14:21:25 GMT
Yep, plus some monster games whilst in the Champ meaning a packed stadium . I accept of course that seats need to be installed if we actually managed to hang in there a few seasons, but conversely by being successful every other year we ought to attract genuine interest in acquiring us rather than charlatans. Rotherham since building the New York City Stadium;
12/13 2nd League 2 (P) 13/14 4th League 1 (P) 14/15 21st Championship 15/16 21st Championship 16/17 24th Championship (R) 17/18 4th League 1 (P) 18/19 22nd Championship (R)
Previous 7 seasons;
05/06 20th League 1 06/07 23rd League 1 (R) 07/08 9th League 2 08/09 14th League 2 09/10 5th League 2 10/11 9th League 2 11/12 10th League 2
A clear example of how investment off the pitch in facilities can provide the platform to play at a higher level. Rotherham aren't throwing cash around by any means.
2019/20? 11th, one place below us!
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Post by tomylil on Oct 30, 2019 14:54:04 GMT
Pretty pointless comparison, we should be looking at the likes of Rotherham with regards to our aims. I don't expect us to hold our own in the Championship, however it would be nice to have a lovely stadium and dip our toe in. What a great idea. Unfortunately, expectations from fans will ramp up if we get there, and we'd either have to invest similarly, or sink back down to our traditional level. This is a major reason why the Al-Qadis have always talked about evolution, not revolution. That's the only way to realistically sustain a club of our size in the Championship. You reckon the way the AQ'S are going about things is the only realistic way ?? God Dam help us then.
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Post by tomylil on Oct 30, 2019 15:03:21 GMT
Still swap places with them in a heart beat. They will eventually get into the promised land of the premier league and we risk losing future generations of supporters. The gulf between us has never been as big, good luck to them I say. If only we had owners like the duke of guernsey I wish them nothing but bad luck. Nepotism will hold them back just like it did when they lost to Hull - that queer Lansdown/Johnson love in, and I wish their families many more years of happiness together. Their pompous arsed fans talking about "strategy" and "vision" just because they have struck lucky on a few sales over the past couple of seasons. Banging on about the ever increasing value of their squad forgetting that they all cost a fortune in wages so better had be increasing in value, particularly when they have players who never or very rarely feature who are also costing a relative fortune. Funny that they fail to mention those isn't it. They can dress it up any way they like but Uncle Steve will not keep swallowing £25m losses if that used car salesman manager of his keeps choking when it gets to the sharp end of the season and his inadequacies come to the fore, and they run out of players who are worth anything.
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Post by craggo on Oct 30, 2019 15:14:56 GMT
The Championship is really rich at the top end. Then whoever comes down from the PL. But it is not quite all about the money at that level, YET. Get a few things right. Have some luck and you can do well there. If we are talking about things being equal, We are bigger than a few teams in there. I am looking up rather than down re our future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 16:02:58 GMT
Still swap places with them in a heart beat. They will eventually get into the promised land of the premier league and we risk losing future generations of supporters. The gulf between us has never been as big, good luck to them I say. If only we had owners like the duke of guernsey Lansdowne has pumped how many hundreds of millions into that lot? And they're still no where near the "promised land". You're wishing them good luck? Seriously? I expect he will be pleased with a £9.8m trading profit from last season.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Oct 30, 2019 16:10:19 GMT
What a great idea. Unfortunately, expectations from fans will ramp up if we get there, and we'd either have to invest similarly, or sink back down to our traditional level. This is a major reason why the Al-Qadis have always talked about evolution, not revolution. That's the only way to realistically sustain a club of our size in the Championship. You reckon the way the AQ'S are going about things is the only realistic way ?? God f**king help us then. For a club our size, unless we find a rich billionaire then yes, that's the only way I'm afraid.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Oct 30, 2019 16:19:54 GMT
Serious question, do you really think this squad are capable of promotion ? Head tells me no mate but momentum could happen and for as long as some of the big boys are underperforming we have a chance. Wycombe seem to have momentum.
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Post by tomylil on Oct 30, 2019 16:21:47 GMT
You reckon the way the AQ'S are going about things is the only realistic way ?? God f**king help us then. For a club our size, unless we find a rich billionaire then yes, that's the only way I'm afraid. I don't think you need to be a billionaire, just a mere millionaire prepared to spend some of your fortune and not expect to see a financial return. Not a queue of them waiting in the wings no doubt but other clubs get them. I think the charge over the Mem and the fact the AQ's will not write that off, means there isn't likely to be a change of ownership anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 16:22:20 GMT
I don't understand how clubs can spend up to 200% of their turnover on wages! I guess SCMP/FFP rules are fairly toothless in the Championship. It's easy....define turnover.
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