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Post by lmgas on Nov 5, 2019 20:43:37 GMT
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Post by clearblue on Nov 5, 2019 20:49:27 GMT
No problem, I’m converting my car to run on bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 20:52:03 GMT
I'm not getting in the back of a taxi especially if his names John.
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Post by Gas1977 on Nov 5, 2019 21:01:46 GMT
I'm not getting in the back of a taxi especially if his names John. since when was John Ward a taxi driver if that’s who your talking about
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 5, 2019 21:07:17 GMT
Euro 6 compliant diesels will be okay I reckon but we will be totally electric by the time we get a new stadium
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 5, 2019 21:21:52 GMT
Euro 6 compliant diesels will be okay I reckon but we will be totally electric by the time we get a new stadium We'll be teleporting there, by the time we get a new stadium.
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Post by Squiffy on Nov 5, 2019 21:22:55 GMT
I'm not getting in the back of a taxi especially if his names John. What about Joe le Taxi?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 21:49:33 GMT
I'm not getting in the back of a taxi especially if his names John. since when was John Ward a taxi driver if that’s who your talking about I'm talking about John he drives a fake taxi. Never forget your wallet. X
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Post by miamigas on Nov 5, 2019 22:00:49 GMT
Euro 6 compliant diesels will be okay I reckon but we will be totally electric by the time we get a new stadium We'll be teleporting there, by the time we get a new stadium. I was gonna say hoverboards but yours is way better 🤣😂. UTG!
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 5, 2019 22:23:29 GMT
It’s a nonsense.
My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a CO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city.
Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS.
Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more.
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Post by brads213 on Nov 5, 2019 22:37:33 GMT
It’s a nonsense. My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a NO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city. Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS. Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more. Totally agree with you my diesel is very co2 friendly electric cars at the moment are doing more harm than any petrol or Diesel engine. Again snowflakes on the loose
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2019 22:40:11 GMT
It’s a nonsense. My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a NO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city. Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS. Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more. I thought you were in the motor trade, if so, surely you know it the NOx which is the problem not NO2, which I assume you really meant CO2 anyway?, with diesels. Although Euro6 cpmpliant diesels pump out virtually zero NOx anyway, that's why I sense the Government, assuming it's still the Tories, will just kick the plans back to BCC and tell them to look at them again. Even if they ban all diesels surely they'll just be replaced by petrol cars leading to exactly the same congestion/CO2 pollution levels anyway. As far as battery powered cars they are OK if you live on a house with a drive etc but pretty useless for most of the flats etc in central Bristol unless they plan on installing chaging points in every car park space.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 5, 2019 22:40:37 GMT
I don’t know why everyone’s making such a fuss? I’ve just filled my diesel up with petrol!
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 5, 2019 22:41:23 GMT
It’s a nonsense. My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a NO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city. Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS. Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more. I thought you were in the motor trade, if so, surely you know it the NOx which is the problem not NO2, which I assume you really meant CO2 anyway?, with diesels. Although Euro6 cpmpliant diesels pump out virtually zero NOx anyway, that's why I sense the Government, assuming it's still the Tories, will just kick the plans back to BCC and tell them to look at them again. Even if they ban all diesels surely they'll just be replaced by petrol cars leading to exactly the same congestion/CO2 pollution levels anyway. As far as battery powered cars they are OK if you live on a house with a drive etc but pretty useless for most of the flats etc in central Bristol unless they plan on installing chaging points in every car park space. Yes my iPad corrected NO for CO. Well spotted topper now corrected! Correct on Euro 6 and even the updated Euro 5 (VW emission scandal territory) has very low emission NOx. I agree that anything pre 2012 does kick out some hefty soot level but even now the MOT laws have changed insisting that it must pass its test with what was on the emission plate from new.
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Post by Thatslife on Nov 5, 2019 22:51:07 GMT
My Volvo Diesel is so clean (cough cough) the I only pay £30 a year road tax. My wife's petrol Renault costs £270. Go figure
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 5, 2019 23:17:04 GMT
Euro 6 compliant diesels will be okay I reckon but we will be totally electric by the time we get a new stadium We'll be teleporting there, by the time we get a new stadium. It’ll be a disgrace if I am unable to pay cash on the day for teleportation I live in NZ and work 7 days a week, also one of my legs is shorter than the other.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 5, 2019 23:23:31 GMT
I always thought that there should be a “carrot and stick” approach to these sorts of things. So that these “stick” measures should be balanced with the “carrot” measures of, for example, better public transport or fare subsidies (I’m sure other more imaginative things could be done but just highlighting possible options ). But this does not take a single car or lorry off the road so all that will happen is that less polluted areas around the edges of this scheme will see an increase in pollution as everyone finds a way around it. From a more direct BRFC point - I travel in from outside Bristol from the south ( car sharing with a diesel driver) and currently go through part of the proposed “banned” zone, so will either have to find a different route (highlighting my point above), or maybe not go at all except for evening games where it will be outside the proposed banned hours. Think it is a very blunt instrument they are using.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Nov 5, 2019 23:31:44 GMT
It’s a nonsense. My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a CO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city. Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS. Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more. You really are the life and soul of parties, aren't you? How about higher carbon particulate and carbon monoxide emissions from diesels? 70% of UK electricity is from sustainable sources at the moment, and nuclear power is only an unavoidable option because we need to tackle climate change faster than renewables will be up to doing the job. Having said this, there's so much methane bubbling up out of the warmer oceans at the moment, it's all too late anyway. I never get invited to parties 🤔
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 5, 2019 23:48:25 GMT
With all this diesel/petrol v electric car debates I don’t think I’ve heard any one suggest how the Government (of any political persuasion) would replace the tax they currently rake in from fuel taxes and where/how it would be transferred (as it must be assumed it will) to the millions of charging points that would be needed to charge up these vast numbers of electric cars we are being exhorted to buy and use.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 0:02:30 GMT
No need to worry as were staying at the mem. And v the fruit market i say thank god for that!
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