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Post by Okebournegas on Nov 6, 2019 0:08:05 GMT
I love my dirty insignia diesel, wouldn’t change it for the world. I just won’t drive to the centre. I usually avoid it like the plague anyway. It’s actually now given me the perfect excuse to never go there again👍
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 6, 2019 0:24:38 GMT
Funny how our esteemed Mayor is banning diesel cars from the centre, due to his Green concerns but thinks the expansion of Lulsgate Airport is a great idea. Strange how money talks....even when the planet appears to be choking
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 7:17:26 GMT
I drive a Ranger Wildtrak the 3.2 version. We have lots of work in the centre. I’m fooked. Have a meeting with my boss this morning, the cost of a Renault Twingo will be on the agenda. 😩
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 7:21:47 GMT
I drive a Ranger Wildtrak the 3.2 version. We have lots of work in the centre. I’m fooked. Have a meeting with my boss this morning, the cost of a Renault Twingo will be on the agenda. 😩 Make sure you get the Cabriolet version of the Twingo. It pays to look cool.
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 6, 2019 8:02:14 GMT
It’s a nonsense. My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a CO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city. Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS. Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more. You really are the life and soul of parties, aren't you? How about higher carbon particulate and carbon monoxide emissions from diesels? 70% of UK electricity is from sustainable sources at the moment, and nuclear power is only an unavoidable option because we need to tackle climate change faster than renewables will be up to doing the job. Having said this, there's so much methane bubbling up out of the warmer oceans at the moment, it's all too late anyway. I never get invited to parties 🤔 We should also look at the whole cycle of owning a vehicle, disposal costs need to be factored in. Not only is there the environmental impact of mining lithium for the batteries, how do you dispose of this sh*t when the batteries are fecked?
My daily commute could take me to the M32 via Templeway and Newfoundland Rd, under the proposed zone that is included. I tend to get the train to avoid the traffic but others are not so fortunate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 8:44:43 GMT
Euro 6 compliant diesels will be okay I reckon but we will be totally electric by the time we get a new stadium I'm given to understand it's a blanket ban for all privately owned diesels irrespective of engine euro type.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 6, 2019 8:49:14 GMT
It’s a nonsense. My 2019 C220cdi with adblue has a CO2 rating of 117g/km where it’s petrol equivalent 139g/km. It’s hybrid equivalent is at 136g/km. It also has a better combined range of 16 mpg (real world) than the petrol and 12mpg than the hybrid running at 43mpg combined and achieves 62mpg extra urban. I agree that old diesels are absolute soot monsters but the older petrol engines are no better on CO2 and HC levels which are equally as poisonous and yet these will still be allowed into the city. Most car manufacturers are in the same ball park so this hate for diesel is utter BS. Once people also realise that electricity production is not at all environmentally friendly, for our demand and consumption it will generate tons of nuclear waste and the mining of lithium is far from ethical or its disposal any more natural then the internal combustion engine, diesel included will be the thing of fashion once more. You really are the life and soul of parties, aren't you? How about higher carbon particulate and carbon monoxide emissions from diesels? 70% of UK electricity is from sustainable sources at the moment, and nuclear power is only an unavoidable option because we need to tackle climate change faster than renewables will be up to doing the job. Having said this, there's so much methane bubbling up out of the warmer oceans at the moment, it's all too late anyway. I never get invited to parties 🤔 Again, if you look at the Diesel engines produced with Euro 5 or higher you will find they are better than the equivalent petrol engines built from 2010 and prior which currently make up the proportion of cars on the road. 70% of electric might be from sustainable sources right now, but the demand is relatively low if you consider you need to power £5m + cars straight out of your home sockets. I agree with you on the methane and time scale side of things, how long we have left really is anyone’s guess. Mankind could do something about it if we all stuck together to do it and it’s done in the right way. Unfortunately people like the right for change group that block up cities relatively unannounced and cause absolute mayhem send the wrong message and turn more people away. Greta Thunburg is a fine example to society and how to do it though.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2019 9:04:40 GMT
With all this diesel/petrol v electric car debates I don’t think I’ve heard any one suggest how the Government (of any political persuasion) would replace the tax they currently rake in from fuel taxes and where/how it would be transferred (as it must be assumed it will) to the millions of charging points that would be needed to charge up these vast numbers of electric cars we are being exhorted to buy and use. The Plan put forward by our Red friends is to put vat up to 20% on all charge points and no doubt the same for domestic uses as well
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2019 9:07:16 GMT
I love my dirty insignia diesel, wouldn’t change it for the world. I just won’t drive to the centre. I usually avoid it like the plague anyway. It’s actually now given me the perfect excuse to never go there again👍 I also love my Very Dirty 2.2 diesel Honda Civic Type S because it go's like F##k and gives me 60+ miles/Gal on motorway driving BTW Watching Rovers on ifollow is carbon neutral and emission free
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2019 9:10:43 GMT
I've got a Motability car with a wheelchair ramp. I wonder if that will be exempted (not legally mine, special needs requirements) otherwise how will I get my son to his appointments at the Children's hospital?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 9:15:40 GMT
I've got a Motability car with a wheelchair ramp. I wonder if that will be exempted (not legally mine, special needs requirements) otherwise how will I get my son to his appointments at the Children's hospital? You would like to think so Stu wouldn’t you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 9:16:58 GMT
I've got a Motability car with a wheelchair ramp. I wonder if that will be exempted (not legally mine, special needs requirements) otherwise how will I get my son to his appointments at the Children's hospital? I’m sure (and hope) an exemption will be available for those in your circumstances. Just hope the council don’t make you jump through a million hoops to get it though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 9:19:39 GMT
I love my dirty insignia diesel, wouldn’t change it for the world. I just won’t drive to the centre. I usually avoid it like the plague anyway. It’s actually now given me the perfect excuse to never go there again👍 I also love my Very Dirty 2.2 diesel Honda Civic Type S because it go's like F##k and gives me 60+ miles/Gal on motorway driving BTW Watching Rovers on ifollow is carbon neutral and emission free No it's not. What are you watching it on? What did it take to manufacture it? The electricity to power it, plus the tonnes of emissions you personally produce as you tend to eat at least eight packets of Wotsits during each game ! More gas emissions than a Cow !
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2019 9:20:31 GMT
I've got a Motability car with a wheelchair ramp. I wonder if that will be exempted (not legally mine, special needs requirements) otherwise how will I get my son to his appointments at the Children's hospital? Our Red Council Mayor is incapable of thinking outside the box so you will probably be charged double
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2019 9:24:23 GMT
I also love my Very Dirty 2.2 diesel Honda Civic Type S because it go's like F##k and gives me 60+ miles/Gal on motorway driving BTW Watching Rovers on ifollow is carbon neutral and emission free No it's not. What are you watching it on? What did it take to manufacture it? The electricity to power it, plus the tonnes of emissions you personally produce as you tend to eat at least eight packets of Wotsits during each game ! More gas emissions than a Cow ! I use a fred flintstone type tv which it was made of stone (natural substance) and is powered buy our green friend at Forest Green Rovers Power company. 8 packs of Wotsits is over the top, more like Peanut M&M's which are mostly healthy....
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 6, 2019 9:26:17 GMT
Perhaps the City Council councillors and senior officers can lead by example by leaving their cars at home and using public transport for work related activities?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2019 9:31:20 GMT
I've got a Motability car with a wheelchair ramp. I wonder if that will be exempted (not legally mine, special needs requirements) otherwise how will I get my son to his appointments at the Children's hospital? I’m sure (and hope) an exemption will be available for those in your circumstances. Just hope the council don’t make you jump through a million hoops to get it though. Hope so, otherwise I'll have to arrange for a Patient Transfer ambulance, that will help resources!
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2019 9:32:39 GMT
I've got a Motability car with a wheelchair ramp. I wonder if that will be exempted (not legally mine, special needs requirements) otherwise how will I get my son to his appointments at the Children's hospital? Our Red Council Mayor is incapable of thinking outside the box so you will probably be charged double I blame his education 😉 (we went to the same school)
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 6, 2019 11:33:34 GMT
Would be interested to know how many "I love my mucky diesel brag wagon" types live in Bristol...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 11:49:21 GMT
Our Red Council Mayor is incapable of thinking outside the box so you will probably be charged double I blame his education 😉 (we went to the same school) You went to school? You posh git !
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