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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 19:23:39 GMT
Frankfurt region. Oh, if you have a ticket to watch Eintracht play, that gives you free public transport to the ground and back ! Ah Germany, considering the country had to completely rebuild they still managed to do a better job than most. In fact, pretty much all of European transport is better than the UK's. Most are nationalised as well. Yet we will have a bus company do trips to the Mem for profit. The beauty is they had a clean sheet to start again and made the most of it. Frankfurt has an amazing public transport system that I have used a few times to get to and from the Commerzbank. Also worth mentioning the beige coloured cabs. They appear out of nowhere! You phone and boom there is one there within five mins wherever you are. Can you imagine that in Bristol with our nasty blue cabs that had a bad spray job forced upon them by the previous regime. Nah!
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Post by lpgas on Nov 9, 2019 11:32:04 GMT
Last summer, July ish I was at the traffic lights by the Welly (sat in my van) when a woman shouted "turn that dirty diesel off" at me. I have a Euro 6 Van, but I was sat behind a double decker on a 56 plate. The previous year I went to Portishead and I went on the train. The trains were new to the line it said proudly on the poster. A railwayman told me on the way back that they had bought them from Chiltern Rail where they had completed 24 years of service. So do we not count old busses and old trains?
And who is going to pay for all those cameras?
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Post by baggins on Nov 9, 2019 12:32:25 GMT
Last summer, July ish I was at the traffic lights by the Welly (sat in my van) when a woman shouted "turn that dirty diesel off" at me. I have a Euro 6 Van, but I was sat behind a double decker on a 56 plate. The previous year I went to Portishead and I went on the train. The trains were new to the line it said proudly on the poster. A railwayman told me on the way back that they had bought them from Chiltern Rail where they had completed 24 years of service. So do we not count old busses and old trains? And who is going to pay for all those cameras? Who's going to pay for the cameras? Have a guess.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 12, 2019 12:26:15 GMT
Some of us are not in a position to do that and for numerous reasons. I won’t go into my own reason as I feel both belittled & embarrassed by it and writing about it only stresses me even more. I could be persuaded if this was a government directive & they gave a helping hand, as they did with the scrapage scheme. I just hope that sense prevails and they make concessions for blue badge holders. I have to go to hospital at least once a week and sometimes more, this is a potential nightmare for me and I’d imagine a fair few others, who I see in the various clinics. This could all be academic as it has to be rubber stamped by the government yet. We shall see & I will try to put it to the back of my mind, for now. I am all for getting traffic volume down but our council seem to have made such a mess of the infrastructure that carries all of the traffic. I think a better way would be to limit the sheer amount of cars than any family can have yet be under the same roof. When I went back, to look after my parents one of the first things we did was sell dads car as it was silly paying 2 lots of everything when it was simple enough to share. This will never happen though as it goes against all the basics of our capitalist system. Having less cars would be the way to go about this but it’s far too sensible in nature to get any backing. Of course, this is just my own opinion. Well that's certainly true about the number of cars. I remember when I was a kid in the sixties, there was perhaps one car for every two households. Now it seems quite normal to have three per house. Nobody seems to walk anywhere nowadays. I'm not talking about those who can't get around for numerous reasons. I mean mobile people who get in the car to go and buy a pint of milk, or to drive to the gym to get on a treadmill. Why don't they walk there? I use my car as little as possible. Perhaps once or twice a week. Then the rest of the time it's walking, bus or train. I'm lucky in that I don't have to commute to work some miles away I suppose. But hopping in the car for short journeys is like a drug. People just have to do it. Again, I'm talking about fit, mobile individuals here, not people with mobility problems or disabilities. A good point well made. I can’t walk long distances but I do walk to my local shops and post office yet I see other who will jump into their cars, to do this. Like you, I avoid the car unless necessary but I’m really now not liking driving as there is so much traffic, lots of the horrible sleeping policemen and roads that are now one way. It’s made Bristol more congested. Don’t get me started on the cost as it’s bad enough paying the legalities let alone the maintenance
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 18, 2019 10:28:16 GMT
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 18, 2019 10:33:19 GMT
How many die because of poor living conditions and going without proper health care....
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 18, 2019 10:43:02 GMT
How many die because of poor living conditions and going without proper health care.... I don't know what that has to do with air pollution sorry. Not trying to make any point with the link. Just pointing out a recent study that is pertinent to the conversation. What is also highlighted is the amount of pollutants chucked out by wood burners. Can't see them being legal for much longer. Or at least installing a new one.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 18, 2019 11:00:50 GMT
How many die because of poor living conditions and going without proper health care.... I don't know what that has to do with air pollution sorry. Not trying to make any point with the link. Just pointing out a recent study that is pertinent to the conversation. What is also highlighted is the amount of pollutants chucked out by wood burners. Can't see them being legal for much longer. Or at least installing a new one. Articles like you posted are important to our health in the city but also very important is Housing and health to our wellbeing, yet we have been constantly let down by Govt promises on all sides. because the environment is flavour of the month at the moment it gets top billing but in reality more people are killed by poor govt policies
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 18, 2019 11:15:00 GMT
I don't know what that has to do with air pollution sorry. Not trying to make any point with the link. Just pointing out a recent study that is pertinent to the conversation. What is also highlighted is the amount of pollutants chucked out by wood burners. Can't see them being legal for much longer. Or at least installing a new one. Articles like you posted are important to our health in the city but also very important is Housing and health to our wellbeing, yet we have been constantly let down by Govt promises on all sides. because the environment is flavour of the month at the moment it gets top billing but in reality more people are killed by poor govt policies Oh I completely agree! Underfunding of our NHS, not building enough social housing, allowing rough sleeping to increase are all costing lives. Doesn't distract from the fact that air pollution is killing people and damaging peoples health and that the solutions (many raised on this thread) are sensible and do-able.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 12:25:04 GMT
Hang on a mo. I don't think air pollution is killing anyone ! There may be a case for people with underlying health problems being affected by the air quality, but I don't think for one millisecond that anyone has died in Bristol because of air pollution.
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Post by baggins on Nov 18, 2019 12:50:53 GMT
Hang on a mo. I don't think air pollution is killing anyone ! There may be a case for people with underlying health problems being affected by the air quality, but I don't think for one millisecond that anyone has died in Bristol because of air pollution. I think they mean deaths by being knocked down by a diesel car.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 18, 2019 13:12:51 GMT
Hang on a mo. I don't think air pollution is killing anyone ! There may be a case for people with underlying health problems being affected by the air quality, but I don't think for one millisecond that anyone has died in Bristol because of air pollution. I'm sure those who suffer from respiratory problems will be grateful for the clarification.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 18, 2019 13:18:37 GMT
I don't know what that has to do with air pollution sorry. Not trying to make any point with the link. Just pointing out a recent study that is pertinent to the conversation. What is also highlighted is the amount of pollutants chucked out by wood burners. Can't see them being legal for much longer. Or at least installing a new one. Articles like you posted are important to our health in the city but also very important is Housing and health to our wellbeing, yet we have been constantly let down by Govt promises on all sides. because the environment is flavour of the month at the moment it gets top billing but in reality more people are killed by poor govt policies The environment will be more than just a 'flavour of the month' issue if we don't do anything about it
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 18, 2019 13:20:28 GMT
Articles like you posted are important to our health in the city but also very important is Housing and health to our wellbeing, yet we have been constantly let down by Govt promises on all sides. because the environment is flavour of the month at the moment it gets top billing but in reality more people are killed by poor govt policies The environment will be more than just a 'flavour of the month' issue if we don't do anything about it Its too late to do anything now
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Post by baggins on Nov 18, 2019 13:26:51 GMT
The environment will be more than just a 'flavour of the month' issue if we don't do anything about it Its too late to do anything now You say that everytime I come into your shop.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 18, 2019 13:29:15 GMT
Its too late to do anything now You say that everytime I come into your shop. Standard answer, allows me to change more and make the customer feel better except Gasheads of course
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Post by station on Nov 18, 2019 13:59:45 GMT
I have the answer to everyone's problems: Shanks's pony unpunctuated: Shanks pony used to refer to one's own legs and the action of walking as a means of conveyance. "you can use the chairlifts, cable cars, or the ever trusty Shanks's pony!"
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Post by Gassy on Nov 18, 2019 14:19:38 GMT
The environment will be more than just a 'flavour of the month' issue if we don't do anything about it Its too late to do anything now Well firstly, thats not true. Secondly, even if it was - so what f*ck it, might as well carry on what we're doing now or in fact do even more?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 18, 2019 14:45:22 GMT
Its too late to do anything now Well firstly, thats not true. Secondly, even if it was - so what f*ck it, might as well carry on what we're doing now or in fact do even more? Why has come to the fore NOW ? We knew we had a problem when the ozone layer got fcuked, yet we did nothing ! So why are we being told now to do something ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 18, 2019 14:53:16 GMT
Well firstly, thats not true. Secondly, even if it was - so what f*ck it, might as well carry on what we're doing now or in fact do even more? Why has come to the fore NOW ? We knew we had a problem when the ozone layer got fcuked, yet we did nothing ! So why are we being told now to do something ? This has been known since I was at school but politicians who only look at the next election chose to ignore it (on a whole, individual ones understood). We now have evidence, although many refuse to believe it for varied reasons, and procrastination isn't an option, doing nothing will make it worse. Do something now and we can mitigate the extremes somewhat. Plus it is possible to create jobs and better the economy. As for the ozone, we did do something and it has helped slow dowm the depletion.
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