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Post by Hudson1883 on Nov 28, 2019 15:17:56 GMT
Given it's Plymuff they can hardly be classed as "lower level" more like difficult local opponents, if it was a league game we'd be looking at a 10K+ gates, odd how there seems so little interest in a cup game, particularly give the reduced prices. It's more of a Derby for Plymouth than us. Every game is so far away for them, we are one of the closest clubs to them. Plus we are in a higher league than them at the moment. So that will always bring more to us, than we would to them. We have loads of clubs closer to us than Plymouth. Loads of Plymouth fans I know, see it as a big derby and actually look forward to coming to the mem. They normally sell out. It’s just another game for me. But I agree they do get up for this one a lot more than we do. Haven’t we already met them in a friendly & the JPT this season? A third meeting in 5 months odd. Most strange.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Nov 28, 2019 16:37:31 GMT
Seems like it will be a poor showing from us.
One incentive which I think we should consider (especially with the capability of tracing these things online now) is a priority order. Everyone who has purchased a ticket for the Plymouth game should be giving priority if (big if) we get a lucrative home or away tie against a prem team. Obviously throw season ticket holders into the mix too.
That would be unfair. Attending fixtures against Bromley and Plymouth but potentially missing out on somewhere like Liverpool away.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 28, 2019 16:46:25 GMT
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Post by clockendgas on Nov 28, 2019 16:48:00 GMT
Sadly working Sunday till six with no chance of getting out of it,but surely a crowd of seven to eight thousand would be normal,embarrassed at times by our faithful and true.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2019 20:30:53 GMT
It's more of a Derby for Plymouth than us. Every game is so far away for them, we are one of the closest clubs to them. Plus we are in a higher league than them at the moment. So that will always bring more to us, than we would to them. We have loads of clubs closer to us than Plymouth. Loads of Plymouth fans I know, see it as a big derby and actually look forward to coming to the mem. They normally sell out. It’s just another game for me. But I agree they do get up for this one a lot more than we do. Haven’t we already met them in a friendly & the JPT this season? A third meeting in 5 months odd. Most strange. They have Exeter, then Yeovil, then Bristol is probally the next closest place to them. Where as we have some clubs in London, that are closer to us, than Plymouth. All the midland sides are closer, some of the Welsh clubs and Oxford, Swindon etc. Their fans do some traveling!
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 28, 2019 20:40:26 GMT
It’s just another game for me. But I agree they do get up for this one a lot more than we do. Haven’t we already met them in a friendly & the JPT this season? A third meeting in 5 months odd. Most strange. They have Exeter, then Yeovil, then Bristol is probally the next closest place to them. Where as we have some clubs in London, that are closer to us, than Plymouth. All the midland sides are closer, some of the Welsh clubs and Oxford, Swindon etc. Their fans do some traveling! Especially when they play Carlisle.......
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Post by axegas on Nov 28, 2019 21:07:52 GMT
The game is to be featured on BBC Final Score like the last round, so we will receive £12,500 from that.
With 2000 Plymouth fans there I’d be disappointed if there wasn’t 7 or 8 thousand in attendance.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 28, 2019 22:24:03 GMT
Plymouth against us is always a traditional fixture to me, a bit like us playing Walsall. Both teams traditional rivals for us. A year ago Plymouth were ok and when we played them in the draw there in March they were safe. But a horrendous run under a manager who’d lost the dressing room meant they went down in the end. But not sure there’s too large a difference between us and Argyle though obviously we are higher at the moment. Plymouth will get better and I think they’ll come back up once Lowe has them ticking. Let’s hope that starts after Sunday. Closing part of the ground is a staggeringly stupid decision. What would it cost to steward it? Probably a lot less than the fans who would have paid to go there. And I’m presuming food outlets will be needed for others in that area. Sometimes decisions taken, by the owners presumably, leave me wondering about their ability to run a raffle. And they’re meant to be financially savvy, being bankers. Jeez! UTG!
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Post by aghast on Nov 28, 2019 22:25:26 GMT
It’s just another game for me. But I agree they do get up for this one a lot more than we do. Haven’t we already met them in a friendly & the JPT this season? A third meeting in 5 months odd. Most strange. They have Exeter, then Yeovil, then Bristol is probally the next closest place to them. Where as we have some clubs in London, that are closer to us, than Plymouth. All the midland sides are closer, some of the Welsh clubs and Oxford, Swindon etc. Their fans do some traveling! I know that what you say is factually correct, but to me playing Plymouth is a bit special because, regardless of distance, they are a West Country club, a port city, and a fairly big side at L1/L2 level. It just feels like a derby game, whereas Walsall or Brentford, although closer, are just other teams in England. I must be in a minority here if we can't get a big crowd for this, and even close sections of the stadium. I suppose the demise of the FA Cup is also a big factor. It really doesn't seem to mean much any more in the early stages. Or maybe any stage.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2019 22:35:48 GMT
Plymouth against us is always a traditional fixture to me, a bit like us playing Walsall. Both teams traditional rivals for us. A year ago Plymouth were ok and when we played them in the draw there in March they were safe. But a horrendous run under a manager who’d lost the dressing room meant they went down in the end. But not sure there’s too large a difference between us and Argyle though obviously we are higher at the moment. Plymouth will get better and I think they’ll come back up once Lowe has them ticking. Let’s hope that starts after Sunday. Closing part of the ground is a staggeringly stupid decision. What would it cost to steward it? Probably a lot less than the fans who would have paid to go there. And I’m presuming food outlets will be needed for others in that area. Sometimes decisions taken, by the owners presumably, leave me wondering about their ability to run a raffle. And they’re meant to be financially savvy, being bankers. Jeez! UTG! To be fair to the bankers I doubt they made this decision this as got to have been made at MS/TG level? Given we're likely to have a minimum of 6K in the ground it seems a strange one.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 28, 2019 22:51:22 GMT
You may be right Topper that Starnes/Gorringe made the decision but it still seems very strange that decisions that could cost us income and a bigger crowd is made. Least of all it looks like our owners, bankers, have a relatively hands off approach or perhaps are even unaware of it. None of which will generate much confidence in them. UTG!
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Post by baggins on Nov 29, 2019 12:48:37 GMT
You may be right Topper that Starnes/Gorringe made the decision but it still seems very strange that decisions that could cost us income and a bigger crowd is made. Least of all it looks like our owners, bankers, have a relatively hands off approach or perhaps are even unaware of it. None of which will generate much confidence in them. UTG! I know it's a "local" game against Muff, but I'd be surprised if the Mem was filled Sunday. Could be wrong.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Nov 29, 2019 13:12:50 GMT
You may be right Topper that Starnes/Gorringe made the decision but it still seems very strange that decisions that could cost us income and a bigger crowd is made. Least of all it looks like our owners, bankers, have a relatively hands off approach or perhaps are even unaware of it. None of which will generate much confidence in them. UTG! I know it's a "local" game against Muff, but I'd be surprised if the Mem was filled Sunday. Could be wrong. Barely 5k home tickets sold. Pathetic really. I agree with a previous poster in that, should we win the game and draw the big club away, the club implements an additional priority window ahead of general sales for anyone holding a Plymouth at home ticket. Those who cannot be bothered with the second round ‘Lower league’ fixture, will sure as hell be bothered with Man United away if it comes to fruition.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 29, 2019 13:25:48 GMT
I know it's a "local" game against Muff, but I'd be surprised if the Mem was filled Sunday. Could be wrong. Barely 5k home tickets sold. Pathetic really. I agree with a previous poster in that, should we win the game and draw the big club away, the club implements an additional priority window ahead of general sales for anyone holding a Plymouth at home ticket. Those who cannot be bothered with the second round ‘Lower league’ fixture, will sure as hell be bothered with Man United away if it comes to fruition. Don't think that's a fair way of doing it. A fan could have been to 50% of our home games, but can't make it on Sunday. Another can could be going for the first time on Sunday. A fairer way, would be if a fan had been to a certain amount of games, over the course of the season. Could boost the attendance for all games then, if they had a good system in place.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 29, 2019 13:36:34 GMT
The FA Cup isn't what it was. Back in the day you dreamed of drawing one of the big guns of English football knowing they will field their stars.
These days due to the size of their squads it's expected they would all field severely weakened teams against L1/2 sides.
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Post by baggins on Nov 29, 2019 13:41:16 GMT
I know it's a "local" game against Muff, but I'd be surprised if the Mem was filled Sunday. Could be wrong. Barely 5k home tickets sold. Pathetic really. I agree with a previous poster in that, should we win the game and draw the big club away, the club implements an additional priority window ahead of general sales for anyone holding a Plymouth at home ticket. Those who cannot be bothered with the second round ‘Lower league’ fixture, will sure as hell be bothered with Man United away if it comes to fruition. I think, should we draw a Prem Club away, that'll be the case. It's happened before, on more than one occasion if memory serves me right.
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Post by baggins on Nov 29, 2019 13:42:52 GMT
Barely 5k home tickets sold. Pathetic really. I agree with a previous poster in that, should we win the game and draw the big club away, the club implements an additional priority window ahead of general sales for anyone holding a Plymouth at home ticket. Those who cannot be bothered with the second round ‘Lower league’ fixture, will sure as hell be bothered with Man United away if it comes to fruition. Don't think that's a fair way of doing it. A fan could have been to 50% of our home games, but can't make it on Sunday. Another can could be going for the first time on Sunday. A fairer way, would be if a fan had been to a certain amount of games, over the course of the season. Could boost the attendance for all games then, if they had a good system in place. How do you determine if a fan had been to a certain of games though?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 29, 2019 13:56:39 GMT
When we had Brighton earlier in the season at home in a meaningful competition, we had a very poor attendance that night so i can understand why they shut that side
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Post by baggins on Nov 29, 2019 13:59:49 GMT
Well I'm going. My Father, Brother and a few Nephews are going. Come on Rovers!!!
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Post by Gassy on Nov 29, 2019 13:59:57 GMT
Don't think that's a fair way of doing it. A fan could have been to 50% of our home games, but can't make it on Sunday. Another can could be going for the first time on Sunday. A fairer way, would be if a fan had been to a certain amount of games, over the course of the season. Could boost the attendance for all games then, if they had a good system in place. How do you determine if a fan had been to a certain of games though? We have an electronic system, don't we? Easiest way is to have something like England have (im an away supporters club member). Every game you get 1 cap for home & 2 for away (i think), the more caps you get the higher priority you are in getting more tickets. You can't get a cap just for buying a ticket, the ticket needs to also be scanned upon entry to the stadium
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