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Post by yetigas on Dec 18, 2019 10:23:33 GMT
Without a VAR style goal line camera its impossible to tell if its over the line or not. Pretty pointless debating. The main thing is the ref said it didn't cross the line. Good enough for me
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 10:30:45 GMT
Johnnie durex might have made more saves but none better than that.
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Dec 18, 2019 10:36:44 GMT
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Post by Jomo on Dec 18, 2019 10:36:44 GMT
Incredible save. To be fair Widdrington and GC pulled off a blinder bringing him in to replace Bonham. Superb signing and long may he continue to perform like this for the Gas.
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 18, 2019 10:48:48 GMT
The further the ball was over the line the more difficult it would be to make that save to hit the post and not go in. My feeling is that the ball was not ENTIRELY over the line in any form for it to hit the post the way it did. It was an incredible save and up there with the very best I have ever seen. IMO we have the best keeper in League 1 with an able deputy and they are both ours. Well done to GC for this and TW. I have the feeling that retainin g TW is more important than retaining Maher and Dunn.
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Dec 18, 2019 10:50:37 GMT
My gut instinct is that it went over the line but even so, just wow. That is comfortably the best save I have seen made by a Rovers goalkeeper. It was the sort of save that if it was in the Premiership/Champions League/World Cup etc, it would be getting a lot of attention.
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Post by poorblue on Dec 18, 2019 11:31:19 GMT
I'm not being biased here but I dont think it was a goal, I have watched it over and over again and I think that is probably the best save I have ever seen, if I did think it went in I would say fair enough and we got lucky! I understand the rule is the WHOLE of the ball must cross the WHOLE of the line? IMO if you look at the camera angle which is off centre it looks likely the ball crossed the line, however if 1 The linesman was in a good position and did not give it completely over the line 2 If you drop a line plumb down from the crossbar aligned with the edge of the ball and check against the goal line it's pretty clear to me that there is about 25mm of the ball NOT completely over the line. Therefore close but rules are rules!!!
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 18, 2019 11:44:30 GMT
I'm not being biased here but I dont think it was a goal, I have watched it over and over again and I think that is probably the best save I have ever seen, if I did think it went in I would say fair enough and we got lucky! I understand the rule is the WHOLE of the ball must cross the WHOLE of the line? IMO if you look at the camera angle which is off centre it looks likely the ball crossed the line, however if 1 The linesman was in a good position and did not give it completely over the line 2 If you drop a line plumb down from the crossbar aligned with the edge of the ball and check against the goal line it's pretty clear to me that there is about 25mm of the ball NOT completely over the line. Therefore close but rules are rules!!! VAR confirms... NO GOAL
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Post by rusho'gas on Dec 18, 2019 11:48:21 GMT
Ref says no goal, tough sh*t Argyle.
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Dec 18, 2019 12:06:12 GMT
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Dec 18, 2019 12:06:12 GMT
Re gashead 99 pic on page 1 As the post is closer to the camera than the ball if you were to move to the right more of the ball would be hidden by the post therefore not over the line. Lots of the ball over but not all of it
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Post by ilfracombegas on Dec 18, 2019 12:26:54 GMT
The other thing that suggests definitely not a goal was the delayed reactions from the two plymouth players who were nearest to it, they had the best view of all
Bottom line was that it was saved !!!!
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Dec 18, 2019 12:33:58 GMT
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Post by garystash on Dec 18, 2019 12:33:58 GMT
The further the ball was over the line the more difficult it would be to make that save to hit the post and not go in. My feeling is that the ball was not ENTIRELY over the line in any form for it to hit the post the way it did. It was an incredible save and up there with the very best I have ever seen. IMO we have the best keeper in League 1 with an able deputy and they are both ours. Well done to GC for this and TW. I have the feeling that retainin g TW is more important than retaining Maher and Dunn. Totally agree with the bit in bold! We often talk up GC's signings, but they're probably more to do with TW than him.
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Dec 18, 2019 13:17:34 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2019 13:17:34 GMT
Yeah, Tony Warburton is a must keep.
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Dec 18, 2019 13:20:11 GMT
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Post by Marshy on Dec 18, 2019 13:20:11 GMT
Yeah, Tony Warburton is a must keep. I must admit, I do like his bread.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Dec 18, 2019 14:20:11 GMT
An absolutely incredible save.For me the best saves are ones like this where the ball is touched on to the woodwork accentuating how close it was to actual being a goal.Look how far and fast he pushes of the floor with his feet as well.Amazing agility.
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Dec 18, 2019 16:37:16 GMT
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Post by aghast on Dec 18, 2019 16:37:16 GMT
I understand the rule is the WHOLE of the ball must cross the WHOLE of the line? IMO if you look at the camera angle which is off centre it looks likely the ball crossed the line, however if 1 The linesman was in a good position and did not give it completely over the line 2 If you drop a line plumb down from the crossbar aligned with the edge of the ball and check against the goal line it's pretty clear to me that there is about 25mm of the ball NOT completely over the line. Therefore close but rules are rules!!! VAR confirms... NO GOAL It looked completely over the line to me. We were lucky imo. The plumb line idea can be misleading. If the ball had been two inches to the right but one inch further across the line, it would also have appeared to be a legitimate save in that photo, even though clearly a valid goal. Anyway, we won! Swings and roundabouts.
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 18, 2019 18:25:15 GMT
It looked completely over the line to me. We were lucky imo. The plumb line idea can be misleading. If the ball had been two inches to the right but one inch further across the line, it would also have appeared to be a legitimate save in that photo, even though clearly a valid goal. Anyway, we won! Swings and roundabouts. Heh.. the image I posted was a joke. Hardly scientific to just plot a random line up.. too many variables not accounted for. I thought at the time it had probably crossed the line - but I have yet to see an angle that "proves" it.. and the Ref/Linesman only have their eyes and if they couldn't be sure it crossed the line then surely they have to err on the side of caution and not give the goal - rather than guess at it.
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Dec 18, 2019 20:58:45 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 18, 2019 20:58:45 GMT
Hilarious!?
Unless you were there in real time, it's impossible for the eye to detect 3d from a 2d image to the accuracy of the whole ball over the whole line from angles presented.
Everything is speculative.
Default position is no goal. And no goal it was.
F off you little green bar stewards....diving in first round should show cheats never prosper.
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Dec 18, 2019 22:49:47 GMT
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Post by yaz on Dec 18, 2019 22:49:47 GMT
Seaman against Sheffield United springs to mind and that was a ridiculous save because it was behind him. Probably my favourite of all time. BEAT ME TO IT!!! Seaman vs Peschosolido I believe. My favourite save of all time (until this one!) Sunderland vs Leeds FA Cup Final 1973/74? Jim Montgomery double save point blank vs Peter Lorimer and ANO. Won them the cup! Jakkola overall performance last night one of the best goal keeping performance I have ever seen. PS Hard to beat Bonham from last season but both our goalies brilliant! UTG
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Post by lpgas on Dec 19, 2019 0:14:18 GMT
Jaakola is a fantastic shot stopper and a very good signing imo. As is JCG and Abu.
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Post by lpgas on Dec 19, 2019 0:18:44 GMT
VAR confirms... NO GOAL It looked completely over the line to me. We were lucky imo. The plumb line idea can be misleading. If the ball had been two inches to the right but one inch further across the line, it would also have appeared to be a legitimate save in that photo, even though clearly a valid goal. Anyway, we won! Swings and roundabouts. The edge of the ball is in line with the back of the calf of the muff player, given that even his foot isn't fully over the line, this proves the ball wasn't fully over the line
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