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Post by neilv93 on Dec 24, 2019 13:16:33 GMT
I would LOVE Tulloch on loan, hell of a talent. Feel like Sam Field would be a step too far but would be another promising addition if we could get him. I didn't realise Sam Field us on loan at Charlton so we can rule him out. Makes sense, definitely his level. If we could get Tulloch to replace Adeboyejo or Bennett, I'd be over the moon.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Dec 24, 2019 16:31:51 GMT
Back to Kelly. He needs to go out on loan to L2 team for regular first team action. It will,do him good and also benefit Rovers. It worked with Rollin. Upon his return, we can see whether Kelly has the attributes of a good L1 defender or not.
We should now be raising the standard of players that we wish to attract. Bog standard L1 players no longer fit the bill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 17:50:51 GMT
What’s everyone’s thoughts? On a positive we’re being linked to West Brom players already and a striker so someone is going? Where's the Kelly to Mansfield suggestion come from? It seems an odd move given GC hardly ever played him! I assume we're being linked to WBA players due to BG being a former employee, however, does he even know any of the present management team at WBA when they've had 5(!) managers since Pulis got the boot. Its on the EFL HUB twitter site. Along with Bennett is wanted by Oldham and Swindon, JCH wanted by Hull and Middlesborough who have submitted a bid and us after a Hull city defender on loan.
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Post by brfc on Dec 24, 2019 17:55:32 GMT
anyone know who Robbie McKenzie is linked with him on loan from Hull a defender do we need him?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2019 18:01:27 GMT
21 year old right back, been at Hull since nine years old. Made nineteen appearances in Championship last season but only one this season.
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Post by Westy on Dec 24, 2019 18:56:05 GMT
anyone know who Robbie McKenzie is linked with him on loan from Hull a defender do we need him? We need another decent striker already, and replacing our star striker with a defender when we've got quite a solid defence seems very Rovers. Unfortunately.
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Post by endicotton on Dec 24, 2019 19:50:35 GMT
I’m hoping we might have a close look at Wimbledon’s striker who got sent off against us earlier in the season. On loan from Brentford I believe... thought he looks good on the limited highlights I have seen of him. Eoin Doyle must be on a lot of Managers Christmas lists as well ! With Eoin Doyle having played for 2 EFL Clubs already this season he won't be able to play for another until next season, so he'll either stay at Swindon or be recalled back to Bradford City if they have the option to.
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Post by irenegas on Dec 24, 2019 22:17:33 GMT
I said recently that West Brom produce some decent players and I can definitely see him being interested in the likes of Sam Field, Jamie Soule and Rayhaan Tulloch. At Palace maybe Jason Lokilo, Kian Flanagan, Nya Kirby and Jude Russell. Ex Palace player Joseph Hungbo at Watford might be of interest too. Pirate no disraspect to your scouting knowledge but do you get these players from Football Manager by any chance because I've literally got 3 of these players on loan fro my gas team on FM? True story
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Post by pirate on Dec 25, 2019 0:01:08 GMT
I said recently that West Brom produce some decent players and I can definitely see him being interested in the likes of Sam Field, Jamie Soule and Rayhaan Tulloch. At Palace maybe Jason Lokilo, Kian Flanagan, Nya Kirby and Jude Russell. Ex Palace player Joseph Hungbo at Watford might be of interest too. Pirate no disraspect to your scouting knowledge but do you get these players from Football Manager by any chance because I've literally got 3 of these players on loan fro my gas team on FM? True story Watch Premier League 2 and U18 games on LFCTV, MUTV and Chelsea TV etc.
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Post by yaz on Dec 25, 2019 7:21:14 GMT
I’m hoping we might have a close look at Wimbledon’s striker who got sent off against us earlier in the season. On loan from Brentford I believe... thought he looks good on the limited highlights I have seen of him. Eoin Doyle must be on a lot of Managers Christmas lists as well ! Marcus Forss is quality. On loan for the season as far as I'm aware and signed a new contract at Brentford before he joined Wimbledon. But JCH sold him a beautiful second yellow to get him sent off at their place earlier this season? It was beautiful to watch! He looks OK.
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Post by yaz on Dec 25, 2019 7:24:07 GMT
We need to look further away, East; Eastern Europe and get someone from there who may come here as a stepping stone to the Premier League?
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Post by Gassy on Dec 25, 2019 8:22:51 GMT
We need to look further away, East; Eastern Europe and get someone from there who may come here as a stepping stone to the Premier League? Living in central/Eastern Europe I can tell you it’s not worth dropping to L1 for those players. The issue is they all play for “big” clubs considering the opposition they’re playing. Their overall league standard may be lower than L1 but the standard of the team play play for is much higher, a nicer stadium, much better wage vs cost of living/better standard of living & they enter the Europa league every year. What’s more likely to get you noticed, Bristol Rovers L1 or Europa league? Many of them don’t aspire to be PL either, that’s the equivalent of asking Sercombe what his chances are of playing for Madrid. Most are happy with Italian league and is often a realistic aim for the better players
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Post by yaz on Dec 25, 2019 14:09:21 GMT
We need to look further away, East; Eastern Europe and get someone from there who may come here as a stepping stone to the Premier League? Living in central/Eastern Europe I can tell you it’s not worth dropping to L1 for those players. The issue is they all play for “big” clubs considering the opposition they’re playing. Their overall league standard may be lower than L1 but the standard of the team play play for is much higher, a nicer stadium, much better wage vs cost of living/better standard of living & they enter the Europa league every year. What’s more likely to get you noticed, Bristol Rovers L1 or Europa league? Many of them don’t aspire to be PL either, that’s the equivalent of asking Sercombe what his chances are of playing for Madrid. Most are happy with Italian league and is often a realistic aim for the better players OK. Thanks for this. Did not appreciate this but makes sense. Oh well, maybe more Eastern Europeans living here may come through the youth systems but i doubt it or it will be a slow process if one remembers pre mid 70s and the lack of non-white players?
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 25, 2019 15:56:58 GMT
We need to look further away, East; Eastern Europe and get someone from there who may come here as a stepping stone to the Premier League? Living in central/Eastern Europe I can tell you it’s not worth dropping to L1 for those players. The issue is they all play for “big” clubs considering the opposition they’re playing. Their overall league standard may be lower than L1 but the standard of the team play play for is much higher, a nicer stadium, much better wage vs cost of living/better standard of living & they enter the Europa league every year. What’s more likely to get you noticed, Bristol Rovers L1 or Europa league? Many of them don’t aspire to be PL either, that’s the equivalent of asking Sercombe what his chances are of playing for Madrid. Most are happy with Italian league and is often a realistic aim for the better players Interesting point. I wonder if the same applies to those in Scandinavia? There's a conveyor belt of talent coming through in Norway and, given the quality of the league/size of the clubs beyond Rosenborg/wages on offer, I can't imagine it being too difficult to convince some to move abroad.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 25, 2019 16:15:20 GMT
Living in central/Eastern Europe I can tell you it’s not worth dropping to L1 for those players. The issue is they all play for “big” clubs considering the opposition they’re playing. Their overall league standard may be lower than L1 but the standard of the team play play for is much higher, a nicer stadium, much better wage vs cost of living/better standard of living & they enter the Europa league every year. What’s more likely to get you noticed, Bristol Rovers L1 or Europa league? Many of them don’t aspire to be PL either, that’s the equivalent of asking Sercombe what his chances are of playing for Madrid. Most are happy with Italian league and is often a realistic aim for the better players Interesting point. I wonder if the same applies to those in Scandinavia? There's a conveyor belt of talent coming through in Norway and, given the quality of the league/size of the clubs beyond Rosenborg/wages on offer, I can't imagine it being too difficult to convince some to move abroad. Could be, I personally have no idea but in theory it makes sense. There are many players out in C&E Europe that could do a job for us and come at lower wages, but this requires quite some scouting. I was more answering to the comment of players looking to get into the PL as those would be way out of our league
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Post by irenegas on Dec 25, 2019 16:27:08 GMT
Pirate no disraspect to your scouting knowledge but do you get these players from Football Manager by any chance because I've literally got 3 of these players on loan fro my gas team on FM? True story Watch Premier League 2 and U18 games on LFCTV, MUTV and Chelsea TV etc. Oh right! fair play mate got some good knowledge
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 25, 2019 16:34:11 GMT
Interesting point. I wonder if the same applies to those in Scandinavia? There's a conveyor belt of talent coming through in Norway and, given the quality of the league/size of the clubs beyond Rosenborg/wages on offer, I can't imagine it being too difficult to convince some to move abroad. Could be, I personally have no idea but in theory it makes sense. There are many players out in C&E Europe that could do a job for us and come at lower wages, but this requires quite some scouting. I was more answering to the comment of players looking to get into the PL as those would be way out of our league No don't worry, I knew what you were saying! I'd find it interesting, I guess it depends on the management team. For example, when Solskjaer went to Cardiff he bought a few Norwegians. Likewise, Farke and Wagner at Norwich and Huddersfield respectively with Germans. I just love the young talent Norway is producing and would love to see us take a stab at some of them. Unlikely though.
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Post by lpgas on Dec 28, 2019 19:01:17 GMT
I wouldn't lend Mansfield a nail. Remember few years ago when without doubt they were the dirtiest team in the league
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 21:57:30 GMT
We need to look further away, East; Eastern Europe and get someone from there who may come here as a stepping stone to the Premier League? Astafjevs is getting on now
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Post by endicotton on Dec 28, 2019 22:04:11 GMT
We need to look further away, East; Eastern Europe and get someone from there who may come here as a stepping stone to the Premier League? I'm not going to even guess how much it would actually be, but I'm sure the cost of having any kind of scouting network outside of the UK is far more expensive than most League One clubs could afford. Tbh I think our best purchases have been young, hungry talent either from the lower leagues or players who have been released/transfer listed from clubs higher up looking to prove a point.
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