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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 13, 2020 15:51:20 GMT
Anyone know how soon Little or Hare will be available??
Think we need to bring in a right back on loan, if either are out for a while. Little never seems to stay fit anyway. Rodman has done a job, playing as a wing back. But he's not the best defensively, so I don't think he can play right back in a 422 or 433.
It's all well and good signing wingers and being linked with wingers. But without a right back, we will struggle to change formation anyway.
Worst case we could play a left back there, or Kilgour played there against Stevenage. But IMO we need a recognised right back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 16:07:26 GMT
I thought I read somewhere that Josh Hare was out until at least March may have been April …. Mark Little seems to be made of Glass or another one struggling to truly get match fit and repeatedly niggling something.
Think BG will try and reshape Alfie into a Right back when Tom Davies is back fit.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 13, 2020 16:08:39 GMT
I thought I read somewhere that Josh Hare was out until at least March may have been April …. Mark Little seems to be made of Glass or another one struggling to truly get match fit and repeatedly niggling something. Think BG will try and reshape Alfie into a Right back when Tom Davies is back fit. I hope not. I can't see him ever having the ability to cross the ball if he's getting forward.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 13, 2020 16:23:28 GMT
I can't see us seeing much of Hare this season as an ACL usually season ending, given is past knee probs the club will also want to make sure he 110% recovered.
Little's a complete mystery given he just seems to pick knocks and strains.
Not sure why we've now signed two wingers but no RB, unless Rodman is now seen as a RB?
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Post by neilv93 on Jan 13, 2020 17:45:38 GMT
Hasn't Rollin featured there a few times when we've switched in-game?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 13, 2020 17:51:35 GMT
Hasn't Rollin featured there a few times when we've switched in-game? But he's hardly L1 standard RB for more than a few minutes when we're desperate for a win.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 13, 2020 17:54:49 GMT
Anyone know how soon Little or Hare will be available?? Think we need to bring in a right back on loan, if either are out for a while. Little never seems to stay fit anyway. Rodman has done a job, playing as a wing back. But he's not the best defensively, so I don't think he can play right back in a 422 or 433. It's all well and good signing wingers and being linked with wingers. But without a right back, we will struggle to change formation anyway. Worst case we could play a left back there, or Kilgour played there against Stevenage. But IMO we need a recognised right back. I know BG has got it a bit wrong since he's come in but at least he's never played a 4-2-2! 😉
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Post by strads1983 on Jan 13, 2020 22:20:51 GMT
Anyone know how soon Little or Hare will be available?? Think we need to bring in a right back on loan, if either are out for a while. Little never seems to stay fit anyway. Rodman has done a job, playing as a wing back. But he's not the best defensively, so I don't think he can play right back in a 422 or 433. It's all well and good signing wingers and being linked with wingers. But without a right back, we will struggle to change formation anyway. Worst case we could play a left back there, or Kilgour played there against Stevenage. But IMO we need a recognised right back. Again, like many I’m not massively keen on loans. But heard Chelsea have a few decent young rightbacks on their books, could be worth an enquiry!
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Post by aghast on Jan 13, 2020 22:31:44 GMT
Anyone know how soon Little or Hare will be available?? Think we need to bring in a right back on loan, if either are out for a while. Little never seems to stay fit anyway. Rodman has done a job, playing as a wing back. But he's not the best defensively, so I don't think he can play right back in a 422 or 433. It's all well and good signing wingers and being linked with wingers. But without a right back, we will struggle to change formation anyway. Worst case we could play a left back there, or Kilgour played there against Stevenage. But IMO we need a recognised right back. Again, like many I’m not massively keen on loans. But heard Chelsea have a few decent young rightbacks on their books, could be worth an enquiry! Wael will know through his contacts there. I'm sure he'll tell us when the time is right.
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Post by xenongas on Jan 14, 2020 3:50:58 GMT
Anyone know how soon Little or Hare will be available?? Think we need to bring in a right back on loan, if either are out for a while. Little never seems to stay fit anyway. Rodman has done a job, playing as a wing back. But he's not the best defensively, so I don't think he can play right back in a 422 or 433. It's all well and good signing wingers and being linked with wingers. But without a right back, we will struggle to change formation anyway. Worst case we could play a left back there, or Kilgour played there against Stevenage. But IMO we need a recognised right back. I hope we stick with 3 centre backs because they've been the most impressive unit within the team for a while now. So that would count out any of them deputising out of position. I agree we need a right back with more defensive capabilities to make the position his own in the short term and compete with Hare in the long term if buying. Or a loanee to just cover the short term which I imagine is the cheaper option, less risk involved, and probably more likely. Little is not a solution to this problem.
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Post by gasaholic on Jan 14, 2020 15:18:39 GMT
I can't see us seeing much of Hare this season as an ACL usually season ending, given is past knee probs the club will also want to make sure he 110% recovered. Little's a complete mystery given he just seems to pick knocks and strains. Not sure why we've now signed two wingers but no RB, unless Rodman is now seen as a RB? Rodman will never be a good RB, wrong mentality.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2020 15:26:34 GMT
I can't see us seeing much of Hare this season as an ACL usually season ending, given is past knee probs the club will also want to make sure he 110% recovered. Little's a complete mystery given he just seems to pick knocks and strains. Not sure why we've now signed two wingers but no RB, unless Rodman is now seen as a RB? Rodman will never be a good RB, wrong mentality. Do please tell, how you would have any idea of his mentality, especially as you don’t know him let alone his mindset. Sheesh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 16:08:06 GMT
Anyone know how soon Little or Hare will be available?? Think we need to bring in a right back on loan, if either are out for a while. Little never seems to stay fit anyway. Rodman has done a job, playing as a wing back. But he's not the best defensively, so I don't think he can play right back in a 422 or 433. It's all well and good signing wingers and being linked with wingers. But without a right back, we will struggle to change formation anyway. Worst case we could play a left back there, or Kilgour played there against Stevenage. But IMO we need a recognised right back. Absolutely. If we don't sign a right back (and there's plenty of time yet) then it begs the question why sign wingers? JML particularly, as we have a right winger in Rodman already. Until we do sign a right back, there's no point in going to 4-4-2. Kilgour is a centre half and should be left alone to continue his impressive development alongside Craig and Davies. If we do go 4-4-2 though, with or without a recognised right back, I'd also be concerned over the lack of pace in the back line, irrespective of the combination selected. Going 4-4-2 is too big an overhaul for this season, in my opinion. 3-5-2 with some pace up front will be fine.
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Post by gasaholic on Jan 14, 2020 16:37:08 GMT
Rodman will never be a good RB, wrong mentality. Do please tell, how you would have any idea of his mentality, especially as you don’t know him let alone his mindset. Sheesh. Ok then would you say that Rodmans work rate and never say die attude is as good as, lets just say for example as Tony Craigs Or Ollie Clarks?
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Post by wilmslowgas on Jan 14, 2020 18:50:04 GMT
It's not about mentality in this case. Rodman's skill set are inclined to midfield/attacking play. He is not a defender and never will be.
The real mentality issue is with players who are equipped to play in certain positions or formations but steadfastly underperform or sulk about doing so. Rodman is no such player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 22:53:01 GMT
If Garner wants to play with a back 4 then we need a right back for sure and he better hope THD gets fit and stays fit as Leahy not the man for a back 4 set up.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 14, 2020 23:15:05 GMT
If Garner wants to play with a back 4 then we need a right back for sure and he better hope THD gets fit and stays fit as Leahy not the man for a back 4 set up. Too right. Leahy is no good defensively. In fact the only thing he is good at is crossing.
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Post by axegas on Jan 14, 2020 23:21:36 GMT
If Garner wants to play with a back 4 then we need a right back for sure and he better hope THD gets fit and stays fit as Leahy not the man for a back 4 set up. Too right. Leahy is no good defensively. In fact the only thing he is good at is crossing. But then neither is THD a great defender. Both good going forward but not the best going back, that isn't too much of a problem when they are playing wingback in a 5-3-2 with good centre backs behind them. The problem occurs when we start getting put under pressure and our defence becomes vulnerable, then their defensive weaknesses are more readily on show.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 14, 2020 23:24:19 GMT
Too right. Leahy is no good defensively. In fact the only thing he is good at is crossing. But then neither is THD a great defender. Both good going forward but not the best going back, that isn't too much of a problem when they are playing wingback in a 5-3-2 with good centre backs behind them. The problem occurs when we start getting put under pressure and our defence becomes vulnerable, then their defensive weaknesses are more readily on show. At least THD has pace to get him out of trouble though. I think THD is also more versatile. Leahy is literally only a LWB IMO. I think Leahy's career is going to start going downhill with us from here on in.
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Post by axegas on Jan 14, 2020 23:31:23 GMT
But then neither is THD a great defender. Both good going forward but not the best going back, that isn't too much of a problem when they are playing wingback in a 5-3-2 with good centre backs behind them. The problem occurs when we start getting put under pressure and our defence becomes vulnerable, then their defensive weaknesses are more readily on show. At least THD has pace to get him out of trouble though. I think THD is also more versatile. Leahy is literally only a LWB IMO. I think Leahy's career is going to start going downhill with us from here on in. Oh hands down I would take THD over Leahy every day. THD is pacy, skilful and can be an utter magician at times with some of the stuff he pulls off. I've always thought Leahy is no better average. A bit like the Ollie Clarke of the left back position, Isn't particularly awful at anything but doesn't do anything great most of the time either.
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