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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 9, 2014 20:28:16 GMT
even worse. Taylor has appeared in 19 out of 20 games this season. I think he has some photos of DC bumming a goat. LMFAO unlike the goat...
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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 9, 2014 20:31:09 GMT
Sorry but you can't have DC appreciation threads packed with praise for him and the say he should pick White. If you apprecoiate the job he's doing you gotta trust his judgement, he see's White in training, he see's his work ethic, his ability and his attitude. I'd love to watch entertaining, high goal scoring football too, but the grinding out results formula has taken us from bottom 5 to top five, with Matty Taylor a huge part of that, DC has set out his stall going for a hard working, determined, dogged style and frankly it aint gonna be easy on the eye. But as someone said earlier this season Darrell has a job to do - Get promotion or lose his job. He doesn't have amazing quality players so we're not gonna tear teams a new arse. What he does have is something 90% of Gasheads have wanted for years - A team of players who every game put in a shift and are proud to wear the quarters. Personally, i'm still not convinced DC is the man for long term, but he's on course to achieve his remit, he knows there's no time to build a football philosphy or beautiful style of play, he's got to get us Promoted , the club and his future demand it. On the transfer front, the last thing we need is a signing that turns out worse than what we've got, again something most of us have had enough of seeing these last few years.UTG DC promised good football which is why he is getting criticised for not delivering it. Shot himself in the foot there. Disagree about Taylor he has cost us 6 or 7 points at least with shoddy finishing and he is being carried. not sure he promised good footy. i think it was more along the lines of high tempo, attacking and positive footy, which we didnt have under JW. to some degree he has. but certainly not been that good.
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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 9, 2014 20:39:40 GMT
To be fair though, Rovers have tried to win every game under DC, home or away. Whatever it looks like, we can't fault the intent.
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 10, 2014 3:43:28 GMT
I can only think it's a fitness thing at this point. DC signed him, so he must have rated him DC kept him here even though there was offers, so he must have plans for him. White came to the club with a fitness issue and hasn't had much ressie games, hopefully they increase so he can get some match fitness I think it's not a case of fitness.......gotta be something else.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 10, 2014 9:33:50 GMT
The football Saturday was very good but if you can't play the right balls when you get in the final third and if you can't finish when you do play the right ball then you ain't gonna win football games. IMO you have to give White a few games starting to see if he can provide goals because it doesn't take a genius to see that Taylor can't and will never be a consistent goal scorer over a long period. I really get peived when I hear that somebody has not produced in training and therefore doesn't get a chance. Stick White up top with Brunt and see what happens. A game is so much different to training.If he isn't fit by now then he may as well be put on the Rovers scrapheap as we are now 4 months into the season!!
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Nov 10, 2014 17:31:44 GMT
Then why has he refused a loan deal for White? He should Accept it was a bad signing and free up space. For what its worth if DC had said we will have to play ugly and grind out results to go up i would not have minded but the endless slagging off of John Ward and his style of football and stating he will play the right way narked me off when he then played the same way. This was an earlier point of mine, DC has changed since Braintree imo. He should Accept it was a bad signing and free up space.. I think he realises he's the one out of all his summer signings that hasn't turned out the way he planned (due to what none of us know). He is actively looking for a new striker to help us score more, but as i said earlier will not sign one for the sake of it. The new man has to be better than what we have. I think when a new man arrives DC will loan out White. Until then he can't risk not having replacements in case of a few injuries.
If DC had said we will have to play ugly and grind out results to go up i would not have minded... the wording you use was what was as much as said at The Supporters Club AGM when i questioned him on his tactics. Again, a change in stance from Darrell. Endless slagging off of John Ward and his style of football....The John Ward stuff/excuse was out of order in my opinion also, but is now old news and we must all move on. As i have said countless times, personally i'm really not convinced by a few things concerning Darrell, but while he has us grinding out wins and draws and we are moving up the table we have no reason to doubt that despite the ugliness of it all and lack of goals, it seems to be working. And if he can get us promotion out of this hell at the first time of asking, well he'll deserve everyone's recognition for it, no matter how it is achieved! Of course if results start to deteriorate our concerns will have proved correct. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 17:38:05 GMT
DC should just say i wanted to play a certain way but realised that would not work for us so we are now working to plan B. Would respect him for that.
He owes us promotion imo and anything else would be a disaster.
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 11, 2014 5:00:18 GMT
Then why has he refused a loan deal for White? He should Accept it was a bad signing and free up space. For what its worth if DC had said we will have to play ugly and grind out results to go up i would not have minded but the endless slagging off of John Ward and his style of football and stating he will play the right way narked me off when he then played the same way. This was an earlier point of mine, DC has changed since Braintree imo. He should Accept it was a bad signing and free up space.. I think he realises he's the one out of all his summer signings that hasn't turned out the way he planned (due to what none of us know). He is actively looking for a new striker to help us score more, but as i said earlier will not sign one for the sake of it. The new man has to be better than what we have. I think when a new man arrives DC will loan out White. Until then he can't risk not having replacements in case of a few injuries.
Spot on JTS it's not a case of fitness or shitness. Best way to make someone consider a move is not to play them. Darrel needs to free up some extra cash to fund a proper Hit man.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 6:13:15 GMT
This was an earlier point of mine, DC has changed since Braintree imo. He should Accept it was a bad signing and free up space.. I think he realises he's the one out of all his summer signings that hasn't turned out the way he planned (due to what none of us know). He is actively looking for a new striker to help us score more, but as i said earlier will not sign one for the sake of it. The new man has to be better than what we have. I think when a new man arrives DC will loan out White. Until then he can't risk not having replacements in case of a few injuries.
Spot on JTS it's not a case of fitness or shitness. Best way to make someone consider a move is not to play them. Darrel needs to free up some extra cash to fund a proper Hit man. Steady on, couldn't he just sell him?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 6:49:50 GMT
Is DC really guilty of "endless slagging off of John Ward"? He mentioned a few times that JW's style of football was not his preference, and that he didn't have any say in this when he was no. 2, but I don't think that he's been forever harping back to it.
The lack of game time for Jamie White is a mystery though. I would have thought that it would have been ideal to let him go out on loan to get match fitness, which seems to have worked well for Brunty.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 6:56:05 GMT
Is DC really guilty of "endless slagging off of John Ward"? He mentioned a few times that JW's style of football was not his preference, and that he didn't have any say in this when he was no. 2, but I don't think that he's been forever harping back to it. The lack of game time for Jamie White is a mystery though. I would have thought that it would have been ideal to let him go out on loan to get match fitness, which seems to have worked well for Brunty. My source at the club, window cleaner Mr Jack Frotage (33) told me that JWs shitness is all DC ever talks about. Indeed his team talks before a game is "come on boys, we can win this. You know why? Cos I'm not that useless lady garden John Ward" Mr Frotage is currently on suspended sentence for burglary.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2014 8:44:11 GMT
Is DC really guilty of "endless slagging off of John Ward"? He mentioned a few times that JW's style of football was not his preference, and that he didn't have any say in this when he was no. 2, but I don't think that he's been forever harping back to it. The lack of game time for Jamie White is a mystery though. I would have thought that it would have been ideal to let him go out on loan to get match fitness, which seems to have worked well for Brunty. DC rejecting the laon move is an odd one suggesting he still needed him but then not even playing him against Tranmere but preferring to bring on Cannington when we needed a goalscorer. Perhaps he doesn't want to send him out on loan as he knows he will get goals for his new club??
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 11, 2014 10:11:12 GMT
What did people expect Daryl Clarke to say??? Oh John Ward was a fantastic Manager and we agreed 100% on tactics and selection and I will do exactly the same even though it was crap to watch and we rarely won? Surely that would have been met with dismay!!!! He was asked a question and gave an honest answer and to be fair to him it has NOT been mentioned since.
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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 11, 2014 10:14:01 GMT
Is DC really guilty of "endless slagging off of John Ward"? He mentioned a few times that JW's style of football was not his preference, and that he didn't have any say in this when he was no. 2, but I don't think that he's been forever harping back to it. The lack of game time for Jamie White is a mystery though. I would have thought that it would have been ideal to let him go out on loan to get match fitness, which seems to have worked well for Brunty. DC rejecting the laon move is an odd one suggesting he still needed him but then not even playing him against Tranmere but preferring to bring on Cannington when we needed a goalscorer. Perhaps he doesn't want to send him out on loan as he knows he will get goals for his new club?? As long as it's not in the Conf then fair play if he does, says I. Bang 'em in, mate. Get the habit back.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 11, 2014 10:50:42 GMT
7 goals scored in the last 7 League games most by midfielders tells me that surely there is nothing to lose to give White a few games to see how he does in GAMES. I couldn't give a damn how he plays in training. Goalscoring wise there is not much likelihood he will be any worse than Taylor. I would add that I think Matty Taylor is playing pretty well but is not going to score goals.
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Post by meader on Nov 11, 2014 11:25:28 GMT
If Darryl Clarke still refuses to use Jamie White, dispite knowing where the net is, you need to ask the question of why Darryle brought him to the club in the first place. Surely Jamie must be getting fustrated and not playing regulary. Or, has he done something to upset his manager? Play Jameie White or get rid!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2014 11:35:46 GMT
Jamie White this seasons Dave Clarkson, a striker who knows where the goal is but the managed refuses to play upfront, I assume because he his workrate is lacking?
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Post by RD on Nov 11, 2014 12:13:41 GMT
It's really, really odd one with Jamie White.
You'd assume that if his attitude stank he'd have been loaned out when the offer came in.
Alternatively if he's (STILL) not fit then a loan with some guaranteed minutes under his built would surely have done him good??
So if he's fit enough and his attitude is ok, why the hell isn't he getting game time given our strikers couldn't score in a brothel?
I'm a massive fan of DC but this whole incident with Jamie White seems bereft of any logic whatsoever?
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Post by meader on Nov 11, 2014 12:44:12 GMT
Tis time for Mr Clarke to come out and tell us his reasons for not selecting Mr White in 1st X1. All this stuff about being offered strikers and saying they not right for him is wearing very thin now. Either he gets one in ASAP or else condem us to another season of non leagur football, which will not be aceptable to all us Gasheads.
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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 11, 2014 12:55:23 GMT
Tis time for Mr Clarke to come out and tell us his reasons for not selecting Mr White in 1st X1. All this stuff about being offered strikers and saying they not right for him is wearing very thin now. Either he gets one in ASAP or else condem us to another season of non leagur football, which will not be aceptable to all us Gasheads. I'd like to hear his reasons for not picking White (is it his initials, perhaps?) but can't agree about getting in a striker ASAP, whoever it may be. When he says, "Not right," he clearly means either that their attitude stinks, or that they're a bit sh**. He's right: if a good enough one isn't to be found ATM, then we just have to manage. Wasting money on yet another flop has long been the Rovers way, but it gets us nowhere. Some traditions are best ended. Or maybe enough dosh has to be found to get a good one in January. After all, promotion pays, I assume.
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