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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2020 6:08:51 GMT
The typical waste of f**king time interview, we get from our club, so uninspiring, it’s almost laughable. We get shot of Hamer the clown, as and replace him with Starnes, who might as well be a solicitor. No f**king comment!!. Who is actually running this show now? Wael runs it, as the president, via Starnes and Tom Gorringe. It was Starnes who in effect got rid of Hamer. Alternatively, it was Hamer who got rid of Hamer. I dont think anyone knows the truth.
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Post by gasstrictband on Jan 20, 2020 8:03:26 GMT
Serious question, would you buy a second hand car from Starnes?.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 20, 2020 8:09:50 GMT
Serious question, would you buy a second hand car from Starnes?. Yes
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Post by markczgas on Jan 20, 2020 8:24:30 GMT
Think we would get better answers from Kim Jong of North Korea Think we could even get better answers from Boris Johnson !! What What !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 9:29:34 GMT
Serious question, would you buy a second hand car from Starnes?. Yes That's only because you are the only person I know who would buy a second-hand Renault Twingo Cabriolet.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2020 9:44:05 GMT
I was in and around the boxes long before Wael rocked up next to me. I was also in box 1 the day we were promoted to L1 which is when I first met him, so the assumption you make is incorrect. Please quote my posts where I have been praiseworthy of Wael and outlined “what a great job he’s doing”? I’ve said many times on here that I was critical and still am of the way the ownership has gone. I’ve told that to Wael directly. I have also said many times on here, that when I levelled a few things at him there was an acknowledgement by him and that he agreed that things have been done poorly and that change was needed, but it would take time to do. So what do you do, continue to beat the guy over the head with the same drum stick or actually recognise that what he was saying was actually happening and he was doing something about it. When I started turning over a few stones of what I was told, suddenly I start getting third party threats, presidents club members trying to intimidate me and the chairman printing off my posts from here. It’s awfully coincidental don’t you think? I also had “warning messages” from members on here who used to have a say in running the club or should I say we’re a flea in the ear of the Dunfords telling me I was being hoodwinked. That conversation I had with Wael took place at the end of last season and low and behold there has been a complete change to the way we previously ran the place and the trouble makers have been disposed of. I don’t know what future plans Wael and co have, I’ve not been disclosed any and it’s highly unlikely I will be told anything. I’m sorry you lost an ally to some mudslinging but I’m just doing my best to support Bristol Rovers, rather than the owners. What is he doing about things then? At the time of writing we have a manager who is half in and half out of the job (due to circumstances outside of his control) - Wael and co. are sat around watching, letting the manager dictate how this will play out while the club’s fortunes are in a spiral. Would you run your company like that or would you step in and take control of the situation and show some decisive leadership? Whether they really were troublemakers is down to who and what you believe. Maybe having had first hand experience of working with Wael they realised what a liability the bloke is and Hamer was working to bring in a credible alternative? I honestly fail to see how fans can fear an alternative because what we have at the moment with the Chuckle Brothers running the club is an absolute mountain of debt, an infrastructure that would shame Monks Park’s Under 17s and as outlined above a managerial crisis that their intransigence has contributed to. What, honestly, does Wael bring to the club that is of any use whatsoever apart from his family servicing the debt that they ran up and are charging us interest on? Because I’m really struggling to think of how things could be worse bar a bunch of venture capitalists taking the ground and thanks to Wael those the only types of people we can hope to save us given the level of debt. What operational skills does Wael actually bring to the club that benefits us? RE the Garner situation, I’m not sure what more they could do at the moment? The obvious thing would be to bring in Warnock until the seasons end but how much would that cost? This year was about stabilising the losses. I’m not sure if that has happened as the accounts haven’t been published. On the footballing side it’s been about getting better value for the wages and I think that’s been achieved, rather well IMO. Why don’t you ask the president some of these other direct questions yourself?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2020 9:44:57 GMT
Wael runs it, as the president, via Starnes and Tom Gorringe. It was Starnes who in effect got rid of Hamer. Alternatively, it was Hamer who got rid of Hamer. I dont think anyone knows the truth. Yes if you shoot yourself in both feet you can’t blame the person that made the gun.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 20, 2020 9:46:25 GMT
That's only because you are the only person I know who would buy a second-hand Renault Twingo Cabriolet. already have 2 one in pink and one in yellow both to match my personality
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Post by LJG on Jan 20, 2020 13:42:08 GMT
I can't be bothered to argue with you because it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Have you run out of pithy soundbites and funny putdowns? TBF topper may not have put the point across perfectly but he has a point. When exactly did it become established fact that without a takeover we would have folded / been in admin / bankruptcy / loss of stadium / Armageddon etc? There are many many examples in football when a relatively small debt, compared to assets, did NOT lead to Armageddon. No, I have an almost inexhaustible stock of pithy soundbites and funny put downs but that's no reason to waste them. It became established fact that the old board couldn't sustain the financing of the club when Barclays were not prepared to continue the financing arrangement meaning a short term bridging loan was arranged with MSP. Res ipsa loquitur. Rushden and Diamonds. Hereford Utd. Halifax Town. Darlington - fancy going to watch a game at the Reynolds Arena?
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Post by baggins on Jan 20, 2020 13:52:59 GMT
Have you run out of pithy soundbites and funny putdowns? TBF topper may not have put the point across perfectly but he has a point. When exactly did it become established fact that without a takeover we would have folded / been in admin / bankruptcy / loss of stadium / Armageddon etc? There are many many examples in football when a relatively small debt, compared to assets, did NOT lead to Armageddon. No, I have an almost inexhaustible stock of pithy soundbites and funny put downs but that's no reason to waste them. It became established fact that the old board couldn't sustain the financing of the club when Barclays were not prepared to continue the financing arrangement meaning a short term bridging loan was arranged with MSP. Res ipsa loquitur. Rushden and Diamonds. Hereford Utd. Halifax Town. Darlington - fancy going to watch a game at the Reynolds Arena? So how close were we really to disappearing until Wael bought us?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2020 14:18:38 GMT
"Rushden and Diamonds. Hereford Utd. Halifax Town. Darlington - fancy going to watch a game at the Reynolds Arena"
One thing all those clubs have in common is home gates around half of ours, when did a club with an average attendance of 6,000/8,000 last go bust and just disappear over just a £2m debt? Both Bolton & Blackpool have gone into Admin this season but have both survived as league clubs.
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Post by althepirate on Jan 20, 2020 14:20:47 GMT
Wael runs it, as the president, via Starnes and Tom Gorringe. It was Starnes who in effect got rid of Hamer. Alternatively, it was Hamer who got rid of Hamer. I dont think anyone knows the truth. Would make a good film that Hamer v Hamer
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 20, 2020 14:30:18 GMT
Serious question, would you buy a second hand car from Starnes?. No, the bloke is just a smoke screen for Wael and family.
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Post by glengas on Jan 20, 2020 17:05:05 GMT
What is he doing about things then? At the time of writing we have a manager who is half in and half out of the job (due to circumstances outside of his control) - Wael and co. are sat around watching, letting the manager dictate how this will play out while the club’s fortunes are in a spiral. Would you run your company like that or would you step in and take control of the situation and show some decisive leadership? Whether they really were troublemakers is down to who and what you believe. Maybe having had first hand experience of working with Wael they realised what a liability the bloke is and Hamer was working to bring in a credible alternative? I honestly fail to see how fans can fear an alternative because what we have at the moment with the Chuckle Brothers running the club is an absolute mountain of debt, an infrastructure that would shame Monks Park’s Under 17s and as outlined above a managerial crisis that their intransigence has contributed to. What, honestly, does Wael bring to the club that is of any use whatsoever apart from his family servicing the debt that they ran up and are charging us interest on? Because I’m really struggling to think of how things could be worse bar a bunch of venture capitalists taking the ground and thanks to Wael those the only types of people we can hope to save us given the level of debt. What operational skills does Wael actually bring to the club that benefits us? RE the Garner situation, I’m not sure what more they could do at the moment? The obvious thing would be to bring in Warnock until the seasons end but how much would that cost? This year was about stabilising the losses. I’m not sure if that has happened as the accounts haven’t been published. On the footballing side it’s been about getting better value for the wages and I think that’s been achieved, rather well IMO. Why don’t you ask the president some of these other direct questions yourself? Will there be a season ticket holders Q and A so people can ask the question or perhaps he is appearing on Having a Gas? If he is willing to share information to a select few what is wrong with sharing it to the whole fan base?
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Post by peterparker on Jan 20, 2020 17:19:11 GMT
RE the Garner situation, I’m not sure what more they could do at the moment? The obvious thing would be to bring in Warnock until the seasons end but how much would that cost? This year was about stabilising the losses. I’m not sure if that has happened as the accounts haven’t been published. On the footballing side it’s been about getting better value for the wages and I think that’s been achieved, rather well IMO. Why don’t you ask the president some of these other direct questions yourself? Will there be a season ticket holders Q and A so people can ask the question or perhaps he is appearing on Having a Gas? If he is willing to share information to a select few what is wrong with sharing it to the whole fan base? maybe contact the SC or one of our two reps on the board
Oh hang on...
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2020 17:21:21 GMT
RE the Garner situation, I’m not sure what more they could do at the moment? The obvious thing would be to bring in Warnock until the seasons end but how much would that cost? This year was about stabilising the losses. I’m not sure if that has happened as the accounts haven’t been published. On the footballing side it’s been about getting better value for the wages and I think that’s been achieved, rather well IMO. Why don’t you ask the president some of these other direct questions yourself? Will there be a season ticket holders Q and A so people can ask the question or perhaps he is appearing on Having a Gas? If he is willing to share information to a select few what is wrong with sharing it to the whole fan base? Surely his spokesperson has already add a Q&A with GT, unfortunately all his answers were "no comment", in all the years in supporting Rovers I can never recall a previous spokesperson ever treating fans with such disdain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 18:23:22 GMT
Will there be a season ticket holders Q and A so people can ask the question or perhaps he is appearing on Having a Gas? If he is willing to share information to a select few what is wrong with sharing it to the whole fan base? Surely his spokesperson has already add a Q&A with GT, unfortunately all his answers were "no comment", in all the years in supporting Rovers I can never recall a previous spokesperson ever treating fans with such disdain. Didn’t hear Higgs on the radio telling everyone that Sainsburys couldn’t and weren’t pulling out then? Or when they had us picking seats for Cheltenham knowing we weren’t going
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2020 18:41:04 GMT
Surely his spokesperson has already add a Q&A with GT, unfortunately all his answers were "no comment", in all the years in supporting Rovers I can never recall a previous spokesperson ever treating fans with such disdain. Didn’t hear Higgs on the radio telling everyone that Sainsburys couldn’t and weren’t pulling out then? Or when they had us picking seats for Cheltenham knowing we weren’t going To be fair to NH he did plenty of interviews and also a weekly newsletter, whether we like what we heard/read is obviously a different matter but at least it was some news not total radio silence for moths on end. As far as Sainsbury's/Cheltenham we haven't a clue what these two are covering up, it was odd there was no FM or stadium questions asked by GT Saturday was he warned beforehand not to ask any?
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