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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 1:34:16 GMT
I take my hat off to the mad mileage clocked up by some supporters on the evidence of this thread. As much as I like to think I care enough about the club to waste my life chatting sh** on the internet about it I really don't think I could ever drive hundreds of miles every other weekend in respect of a season ticket. You lot deserve much better and I hope that the current rabble from board down to players buck their ideas up and start winning again, for your sakes.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 21, 2020 3:36:07 GMT
Interesting thread this and I can see both sides I travel from Bournemouth with my 10 year old son and I must admit it's getting harder to convince him it's worth the 4 hour round trip! He watches, like all kids, the premier league and global game becoming more of a cash circus, these current transfer fees and wages are driving a massive wedge between the haves and have nots.... I try to convince him it's about loving your club and dreaming of one day being in the 'big time' but I'm not even sure what that means anymore! The premier league with its farce of var is not somewhere I'd really like to be! So a generation of fans are perhaps being lost especially as our beloved neighbours edge ever closer to the promised land. If that happens I really do fear for our future. I started supporting the gas at Twerton with a die hard fan base of around 4-5,000 and I don't doubt with stagnation we will be back to that figure again soon. The feeling around the ground of late has been bordering on the apathetic at best. We need some positive news regarding a stadium or else I only foresee a downward spiral and with debts as they are, if the owners were to walk I do fear for us Will I ever give up? Not a chance! It's in your blood. The crime is we have the potential to be a superb club with superb fans but whether we ever get there is anyone's guess. I'd love to hope my boy one day sits in a ground to be proud of..... if his interest lasts that long! UTG Yes I agree that sometimes the distance to travel to watch what will inevitably be poor fare can put you off the round trip. I was sorely tested when Graydon’s team was at it’s worst...and took a sabbatical when our fans forced the board to remove Trollope and replace him with tripe. You invest a tankful of fuel and several hours of your time and your team can hardly muster a shot on target...those journeys home can be grim. What you do is as DC used to say “dust yourself down and go again”...someone will restore your hope again, on the field, if only temporarily...last time it was JCH, it was Stewie, Bazza, Rickie, Ollie etc before that. What I do think though, is that it is the content and sentiment of your post that somehow needs to get rammed into their damned fans survey. They need to understand that we can and have endured far worse facilities and adversity than an expensive sausage roll and a slow working hand dryer but what we want is tangible evidence that they are working on strategies that will ensure that generation of fans, including your boy, will not be lost through this neglectful and baffling attitude to communicating with us as an intelligent fan base. Starnes dead batting and scoffing during the GT interview was insulting us, I can’t tell you, I won’t tell you, you don’t need to know, you don’t deserve to know...etc that is more likely to drive the fans away. if tomorrow they said, we’ll have to train in a swamp and play in a tented village for 10 more years before we will definitely have a new home and training complex we’d accept our lot and get on with it. Nonsense like we don’t own where we want the new stadium to be built but we hope to be in it within two years is pie in the sky insubstantial dreaming that just gets extended and extended with no actual physical progress to show for it. it is the hope that kills us...it will be gritty realism that saves us. I would still love the FM site to come to fruition before those ten years are up mind...there’s that damned hope again!!!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 21, 2020 6:39:36 GMT
Dam straight. We should field a ginger XI C'mon.... Rovers ginger 11.... Alan ball first on the team sheet.... Dis, gaffney.... I've run out.... Waddock, Bolger, Sinclair....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 21, 2020 7:07:26 GMT
C'mon.... Rovers ginger 11.... Alan ball first on the team sheet.... Dis, gaffney.... I've run out.... Waddock, Bolger, Sinclair.... Pipe.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 21, 2020 7:35:18 GMT
Waddock, Bolger, Sinclair.... Pipe. Guscott, England, Roost. As for a keeper I think Scott Bevan had Ginger hair before he had no hair!
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Post by gasstrictband on Jan 21, 2020 7:45:43 GMT
In mid field ,got to be Ronald & Reggie, the Kray twins.
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Post by Westy on Jan 21, 2020 9:22:36 GMT
Matt Harold up front!
But in response to the thread, starting to get a bit frustrated as we all are. I've hardly been on here the last few days - burying my head in the sand at the state of: The results saga The stadium saga The training ground saga The management saga The injuries saga The Ken Master's saga
And the rest.... Damn, it's worse when you spell it out isn't it 😑
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Post by heartofgas on Jan 21, 2020 9:29:43 GMT
I wonder how many are in a similar position. I am an ex-season ticket holder and been following rovers since the eighties. I had always thought our lot could improve, I don’t really feel that any more. I think the current regime has killed something in the club. I live in Derbyshire so have a 300mile round trip to games but I used to go when I could. My motivation to go now is seriously tested.
I also have 4 kids, one of whom has a disability. The facilities at the memorial are so bad I just can’t take them. My eldest son (the one who,s disabled) is mad about football and my passion for the gas has warn off on him. However he wants to see live games and go to matches. A few years ago I said to him that when rovers new stadium is built we can go to games. That hope has now gone. In the mean time he has started following Derby County so we now both have season tickets for Derby. Obviously I have gas in my heart and that won’t change but I can’t argue against something where he gets to see live football in a decent stadium with very good disabled facilities and costs less money than rovers would. I would love my kids to go to rovers with me but it’s hard to see that happening.i will be limited to the odd occasions I can go on my own or when there is an away game near me.
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 21, 2020 10:20:44 GMT
In mid field ,got to be Ronald & Reggie, the Kray twins. Or the two Americans, Miranda and Escobedo. They seem to have struck up an enduring partnership.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 10:30:45 GMT
I wonder how many are in a similar position. I am an ex-season ticket holder and been following rovers since the eighties. I had always thought our lot could improve, I don’t really feel that any more. I think the current regime has killed something in the club. I live in Derbyshire so have a 300mile round trip to games but I used to go when I could. My motivation to go now is seriously tested. I also have 4 kids, one of whom has a disability. The facilities at the memorial are so bad I just can’t take them. My eldest son (the one who,s disabled) is mad about football and my passion for the gas has warn off on him. However he wants to see live games and go to matches. A few years ago I said to him that when rovers new stadium is built we can go to games. That hope has now gone. In the mean time he has started following Derby County so we now both have season tickets for Derby. Obviously I have gas in my heart and that won’t change but I can’t argue against something where he gets to see live football in a decent stadium with very good disabled facilities and costs less money than rovers would. I would love my kids to go to rovers with me but it’s hard to see that happening.i will be limited to the odd occasions I can go on my own or when there is an away game near me. You should PM Tilly's Thigh's i think she could help with this.
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 21, 2020 10:38:11 GMT
I wonder how many are in a similar position. I am an ex-season ticket holder and been following rovers since the eighties. I had always thought our lot could improve, I don’t really feel that any more. I think the current regime has killed something in the club. I live in Derbyshire so have a 300mile round trip to games but I used to go when I could. My motivation to go now is seriously tested. I also have 4 kids, one of whom has a disability. The facilities at the memorial are so bad I just can’t take them. My eldest son (the one who,s disabled) is mad about football and my passion for the gas has warn off on him. However he wants to see live games and go to matches. A few years ago I said to him that when rovers new stadium is built we can go to games. That hope has now gone. In the mean time he has started following Derby County so we now both have season tickets for Derby. Obviously I have gas in my heart and that won’t change but I can’t argue against something where he gets to see live football in a decent stadium with very good disabled facilities and costs less money than rovers would. I would love my kids to go to rovers with me but it’s hard to see that happening.i will be limited to the odd occasions I can go on my own or when there is an away game near me. A great post. This should be sent to the Board to show them how the lack of hope over facilities is losing us another generation of support.
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 10:51:32 GMT
Matt Harold up front! But in response to the thread, starting to get a bit frustrated as we all are. I've hardly been on here the last few days - burying my head in the sand at the state of: The results saga The stadium saga The training ground saga The management sagaThe injuries saga The Ken Master's saga And the rest.... Damn, it's worse when you spell it out isn't it 😑 I've asked a few people who've posted similar things but as yet no response: Why do you describe this as a management saga? The manager is on compassionate leave - what do you expect the owners to do about that?
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 21, 2020 10:57:35 GMT
Matt Harold up front! But in response to the thread, starting to get a bit frustrated as we all are. I've hardly been on here the last few days - burying my head in the sand at the state of: The results saga The stadium saga The training ground saga The management sagaThe injuries saga The Ken Master's saga And the rest.... Damn, it's worse when you spell it out isn't it 😑 I've asked a few people who've posted similar things but as yet no response: Why do you describe this as a management saga? The manager is on compassionate leave - what do you expect the owners to do about that? ..as it seems to be open ended, based on the Starnes interview, then I would expect the Owners/Board to act to protect the business (and take pressure off the affected employee too) by bringing in some interim help for Maher and the other coaching staff
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 10:58:27 GMT
Matt Harold up front! But in response to the thread, starting to get a bit frustrated as we all are. I've hardly been on here the last few days - burying my head in the sand at the state of: The results saga The stadium saga The training ground saga The management sagaThe injuries saga The Ken Master's saga And the rest.... Damn, it's worse when you spell it out isn't it 😑 I've asked a few people who've posted similar things but as yet no response: Why do you describe this as a management saga? The manager is on compassionate leave - what do you expect the owners to do about that? In an ideal world they could appoint Warnock as he’s looking to complete a milestone for a few months, as a result he might do it for mate’s rates and he would obviously fit with Coughlan’s style of football. That is a non-starter though, let’s be honest. Alternatively they could give Maher the job until August with a mandate to coach the players as Coughlan was doing to try and halt the slide. Either of those options would show some strong leadership. The option they are taking is to let the manager be involved by phone on a day to day basis and (by all accounts from our set up) pick the team and tactics without actually taking training sessions. He’s half in and half out of the job at a time when we have yet to score a league goal in 2020! This situation needs nipping in the bud. It goes without saying if we were winning games then as odd as it sounds maybe there is a case for letting BG dictate his involvement and when this all comes to a head, but we aren’t so he shouldn’t. The board should insist BG focuses completely on his family until the summer, make an interim appointment and be pro-active about halting the slide.
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Post by heartofgas on Jan 21, 2020 10:59:50 GMT
I wonder how many are in a similar position. I am an ex-season ticket holder and been following rovers since the eighties. I had always thought our lot could improve, I don’t really feel that any more. I think the current regime has killed something in the club. I live in Derbyshire so have a 300mile round trip to games but I used to go when I could. My motivation to go now is seriously tested. I also have 4 kids, one of whom has a disability. The facilities at the memorial are so bad I just can’t take them. My eldest son (the one who,s disabled) is mad about football and my passion for the gas has warn off on him. However he wants to see live games and go to matches. A few years ago I said to him that when rovers new stadium is built we can go to games. That hope has now gone. In the mean time he has started following Derby County so we now both have season tickets for Derby. Obviously I have gas in my heart and that won’t change but I can’t argue against something where he gets to see live football in a decent stadium with very good disabled facilities and costs less money than rovers would. I would love my kids to go to rovers with me but it’s hard to see that happening.i will be limited to the odd occasions I can go on my own or when there is an away game near me. You should PM Tilly's Thigh's i think she could help with this. My son is ambulant disabled. So he can walk short distances and manage a few stairs This is impractical for rovers. We would need his wheelchair but there are only something like 10 wheelchair spaces and 10 disabled car parking spaces. The one time I did take my eldest and another of my children we had to park over a mile away and went in the east stand. I helped my son to the seat but had to leave the wheelchair with a steward. Not ideal. When we go to Derby I can park next to the stadium, they have golf buggies to take you to the stadium from the car park, dedicated disabled entrances and there are something like 500 wheelchair spaces. Our facilities so need to improve and this can only happen with a new stadium.
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Post by Icegas on Jan 21, 2020 10:59:53 GMT
Interesting thread this and I can see both sides I travel from Bournemouth with my 10 year old son and I must admit it's getting harder to convince him it's worth the 4 hour round trip! He watches, like all kids, the premier league and global game becoming more of a cash circus, these current transfer fees and wages are driving a massive wedge between the haves and have nots.... I try to convince him it's about loving your club and dreaming of one day being in the 'big time' but I'm not even sure what that means anymore! The premier league with its farce of var is not somewhere I'd really like to be! So a generation of fans are perhaps being lost especially as our beloved neighbours edge ever closer to the promised land. If that happens I really do fear for our future. I started supporting the gas at Twerton with a die hard fan base of around 4-5,000 and I don't doubt with stagnation we will be back to that figure again soon. The feeling around the ground of late has been bordering on the apathetic at best. We need some positive news regarding a stadium or else I only foresee a downward spiral and with debts as they are, if the owners were to walk I do fear for us Will I ever give up? Not a chance! It's in your blood. The crime is we have the potential to be a superb club with superb fans but whether we ever get there is anyone's guess. I'd love to hope my boy one day sits in a ground to be proud of..... if his interest lasts that long! UTG Yes I agree that sometimes the distance to travel to watch what will inevitably be poor fare can put you off the round trip. I was sorely tested when Graydon’s team was at it’s worst...and took a sabbatical when our fans forced the board to remove Trollope and replace him with tripe. You invest a tankful of fuel and several hours of your time and your team can hardly muster a shot on target...those journeys home can be grim. What you do is as DC used to say “dust yourself down and go again”...someone will restore your hope again, on the field, if only temporarily...last time it was JCH, it was Stewie, Bazza, Rickie, Ollie etc before that. What I do think though, is that it is the content and sentiment of your post that somehow needs to get rammed into their damned fans survey. They need to understand that we can and have endured far worse facilities and adversity than an expensive sausage roll and a slow working hand dryer but what we want is tangible evidence that they are working on strategies that will ensure that generation of fans, including your boy, will not be lost through this neglectful and baffling attitude to communicating with us as an intelligent fan base. Starnes dead batting and scoffing during the GT interview was insulting us, I can’t tell you, I won’t tell you, you don’t need to know, you don’t deserve to know...etc that is more likely to drive the fans away. if tomorrow they said, we’ll have to train in a swamp and play in a tented village for 10 more years before we will definitely have a new home and training complex we’d accept our lot and get on with it. Nonsense like we don’t own where we want the new stadium to be built but we hope to be in it within two years is pie in the sky insubstantial dreaming that just gets extended and extended with no actual physical progress to show for it. it is the hope that kills us...it will be gritty realism that saves us. I would still love the FM site to come to fruition before those ten years are up mind...there’s that damned hope again!!! Theres no way the owners will walk...They have invested £10- £15 Million into the club by way of loans to the club against the value of the Mem etc.. They are not going to do a Lansdown and write the debts off so they cant walk away unless they sell. I too see City in the premiership in the next few seasons, within 5 max.Hate to say it but they are set up for it now.But regardless even if they were to became a perm Premier fixture that wouldnt kill us off or be the end of us.Of course it would effect the young Bristol kids wanting to see City in the Prem rather than us in L1 but thats it.Bristol Rovers FC is much bigger to Bristol than a Bristol City run in the Premiership one day.
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Post by heartofgas on Jan 21, 2020 11:06:16 GMT
I wonder how many are in a similar position. I am an ex-season ticket holder and been following rovers since the eighties. I had always thought our lot could improve, I don’t really feel that any more. I think the current regime has killed something in the club. I live in Derbyshire so have a 300mile round trip to games but I used to go when I could. My motivation to go now is seriously tested. I also have 4 kids, one of whom has a disability. The facilities at the memorial are so bad I just can’t take them. My eldest son (the one who,s disabled) is mad about football and my passion for the gas has warn off on him. However he wants to see live games and go to matches. A few years ago I said to him that when rovers new stadium is built we can go to games. That hope has now gone. In the mean time he has started following Derby County so we now both have season tickets for Derby. Obviously I have gas in my heart and that won’t change but I can’t argue against something where he gets to see live football in a decent stadium with very good disabled facilities and costs less money than rovers would. I would love my kids to go to rovers with me but it’s hard to see that happening.i will be limited to the odd occasions I can go on my own or when there is an away game near me. A great post. This should be sent to the Board to show them how the lack of hope over facilities is losing us another generation of support. So they haven’t just lost out on one supporter not going any more but there are 4 potential new supporters that won’t be added to our ranks.
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Post by Icegas on Jan 21, 2020 11:07:06 GMT
I've asked a few people who've posted similar things but as yet no response: Why do you describe this as a management saga? The manager is on compassionate leave - what do you expect the owners to do about that? In an ideal world they could appoint Warnock as he’s looking to complete a milestone for a few months, as a result he might do it for mate’s rates and he would obviously fit with Coughlan’s style of football. That is a non-starter though, let’s be honest. Alternatively they could give Maher the job until August with a mandate to coach the players as Coughlan was doing to try and halt the slide. Either of those options would show some strong leadership. The option they are taking is to let the manager be involved by phone on a day to day basis and (by all accounts from our set up) pick the team and tactics without actually taking training sessions. He’s half in and half out of the job at a time when we have yet to score a league goal in 2020! This situation needs nipping in the bud. It goes without saying if we were winning games then as odd as it sounds maybe there is a case for letting BG dictate his involvement and when this all comes to a head, but we aren’t so he shouldn’t. The board should insist BG focuses completely on his family until the summer, make an interim appointment and be pro-active about halting the slide. Good point , I said that on a thread the other day. Right now we are in complete freefall.We maybe 14 point clear of the bottom 3 right now but can anyone see where our next win,draw or even goal will come from?? We are like a rubber dinghy lost at sea. Its not Bens fault.But like you said, he cant be half in and half out right now.I would give him time off with his family until the May and get someone in charge until the end of the season to steady the ship.It would show leadership but with this board its not gunna happen.
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Post by alasitsgas on Jan 21, 2020 11:38:27 GMT
Do results matter of course they do.As for Maher filling the job till next season? It could be too late. I stand to be corrected and hope I am wrong But don't think the present the present Quartet or regime are up to it.
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Post by LJG on Jan 21, 2020 12:10:18 GMT
I've asked a few people who've posted similar things but as yet no response: Why do you describe this as a management saga? The manager is on compassionate leave - what do you expect the owners to do about that? ..as it seems to be open ended, based on the Starnes interview, then I would expect the Owners/Board to act to protect the business (and take pressure off the affected employee too) by bringing in some interim help for Maher and the other coaching staff OK so what if he wants to come back to work next week? Keep paying whoever this is you want brought in? Have two managers? What do your work do when someone has compassionate leave? Bus in a replacement less than 2 weeks later?
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