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Post by fanboy on Jan 22, 2020 9:00:02 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 22, 2020 9:24:38 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 22, 2020 9:42:24 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact. No reason why it couldn’t have continued. I think some may be in denial of what could have been, and some may have disliked GC that much they’re convinced this could have been the case! |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 22, 2020 9:46:49 GMT
The voice of reason! hope the sentiments expressed persuade people to back off a bit, i suspect that like a lot of issues today there will be a split in opinion based on age, the older ones among us having much more patience than the younger 'want it now' fans, trust me young uns, the wheel of fortune will turn in our favour ,hang on in there!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 22, 2020 9:50:11 GMT
The voice of reason! hope the sentiments expressed persuade people to back off a bit, i suspect that like a lot of issues today there will be a split in opinion based on age, the older ones among us having much more patience than the younger 'want it now' fans, trust me young uns, the wheel of fortune will turn in our favour ,hang on in there! That's interesting. I always imagine when I hear someone on here whining about the position/prospects/form/future of the club that they're 50-something (I'm 50-something) or older. I generally imagine when they're still positive and enthusiastic, they're younger coz they haven't had the enthusiasm knocked out of them yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 9:50:40 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact. Or just an opinion? 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 22, 2020 9:54:57 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact. Or just an opinion? 🤷🏻♂️ Yes, obviously it's an opinion. I was using the idea of a gaschatfact which has been generally accepted informally on here as something that gets espoused so often or agreed with so readily that it may as well be taken as fact. And I used that to riff on the idea that there could be a gascastpodcastfact as a sort of jokey play on words. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 22, 2020 10:00:19 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact. No reason why it couldn’t have continued. I think some may be in denial of what could have been, and some may have disliked GC that much they’re convinced this could have been the case! Its something we will never know and every one will contemplate what might have been, in my own vho i do not believe we were good enough to sustain a top 6 challenge and would eventually finished mid table, think deep down GC ,who i liked, knew that and left while his stock was high, in the same vein i never thought for one minute that Wycombe would stay at the top , wonder if there fans really believed that they would? they like us are in free fall, though they had a bit more in hand than us and may hang around top 10, but as i said each to there own, up the Rovers! |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 22, 2020 10:02:35 GMT
Or just an opinion? 🤷🏻♂️ Yes, obviously it's an opinion. I was using the idea of a gaschatfact which has been generally accepted informally on here as something that gets espoused so often or agreed with so readily that it may as well be taken as fact. And I used that to riff on the idea that there could be a gascastpodcastfact as a sort of jokey play on words. I also agree that our form probably wouldn’t have continued, but reading this board I don’t see it as an overwhelming consensus of opinion at all. It’s like saying it’s gaschatfact that Garner is a bad appointment. It might be quite a popular opinion but there are plenty on here who see the logic of the appointment and that patience is required to help us through this rough spell. Calling these two opinions ‘Gaschatfacts’ surely risks propagating then as more widely held opinions than they actually are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 10:05:02 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact. No reason why it couldn’t have continued. I think some may be in denial of what could have been, and some may have disliked GC that much they’re convinced this could have been the case! Absolutely. I wasn't GC's biggest fan and can't pinpoint the reason why it was working, but the undeniable fact it was and we were winning games. We looked solid and resilient and I started to believe the squad was capable of a top six finish with a couple of decent additions. People are entitled to an opinion that our form wouldn't have continued and this decline was inevitable based on the underlying numbers, but it's clearly not fact. I can think of a good few teams who have enjoyed success despite the statistics predicting them to fall apart at any given moment. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 22, 2020 10:08:10 GMT
The voice of reason! hope the sentiments expressed persuade people to back off a bit, i suspect that like a lot of issues today there will be a split in opinion based on age, the older ones among us having much more patience than the younger 'want it now' fans, trust me young uns, the wheel of fortune will turn in our favour ,hang on in there! That's interesting. I always imagine when I hear someone on here whining about the position/prospects/form/future of the club that they're 50-something (I'm 50-something) or older. I generally imagine when they're still positive and enthusiastic, they're younger coz they haven't had the enthusiasm knocked out of them yet. MMMM! time for one of the clever ones among you to do a poll which takes into consideration a respondents age!!,note i am a teenager recycled a few times! |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 22, 2020 10:19:43 GMT
That's interesting. I always imagine when I hear someone on here whining about the position/prospects/form/future of the club that they're 50-something (I'm 50-something) or older. I generally imagine when they're still positive and enthusiastic, they're younger coz they haven't had the enthusiasm knocked out of them yet. MMMM! time for one of the clever ones among you to do a poll which takes into consideration a respondents age!!,note i am a teenager recycled a few times! There you go: gasheads.proboards.com/thread/15770/age-outlook |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 13:09:55 GMT
It's not a matter of having patience more of what are we being patient for?
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 22, 2020 13:18:15 GMT
Were told to have partence 40 years ago!!!!!!!!
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 22, 2020 13:43:03 GMT
Too many people watch too much football on sky & expect to see the same in L1.
First thing I want ,when going to see Rovers play, is a win. Whether we play good football or not is secondary to me, and always has been. I wasn’t all for Coughlan at first, but admit he got the players playing to their strengths & got results. Whether or not the form would have dipped had he stayed, no one knows, it’s a bit like saying we would have gone down if DC stayed. What we see now is that the change in tactics has either highlighted our shortcomings or perhaps we don’t have the players capable or we have hit a poor run of form, either way we are not getting results, so I feel grumpy. Just as well we had a good first half of the season. It amazes me that people moan about the style of football when we are winning, but then when we go on a losing streak, we all look forward to a win at any cost, irrespective of the style.
I don’t believe crowds were down due to the standard of football, I’m more inclined to look at whether or not attendances are down in general & look then at the surroundings at the Mem. One of the questions on the survey was what time do you arrive on match days, I put 2:30, then was asked what could they do to encourage me to arrive earlier. Really? Why would I want to spend more time inside the stadium? I might need to take a sh1t, and then what?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jan 22, 2020 17:22:14 GMT
Too many people watch too much football on sky & expect to see the same in L1. First thing I want ,when going to see Rovers play, is a win. Whether we play good football or not is secondary to me, and always has been. I wasn’t all for Coughlan at first, but admit he got the players playing to their strengths & got results. Whether or not the form would have dipped had he stayed, no one knows, it’s a bit like saying we would have gone down if DC stayed. What we see now is that the change in tactics has either highlighted our shortcomings or perhaps we don’t have the players capable or we have hit a poor run of form, either way we are not getting results, so I feel grumpy. Just as well we had a good first half of the season. It amazes me that people moan about the style of football when we are winning, but then when we go on a losing streak, we all look forward to a win at any cost, irrespective of the style. I don’t believe crowds were down due to the standard of football, I’m more inclined to look at whether or not attendances are down in general & look then at the surroundings at the Mem. One of the questions on the survey was what time do you arrive on match days, I put 2:30, then was asked what could they do to encourage me to arrive earlier. Really? Why would I want to spend more time inside the stadium? I might need to take a sh1t, and then what? Exactly this. I could go to a match where we have no shots, no possession and bore the life from me, but if we won 1-0 I'd be happy and back the next game. All that matters to me is the results. I know other people think differently, but I'd rather see us win. |
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 22, 2020 17:37:47 GMT
Too many people watch too much football on sky & expect to see the same in L1. First thing I want ,when going to see Rovers play, is a win. Whether we play good football or not is secondary to me, and always has been. I wasn’t all for Coughlan at first, but admit he got the players playing to their strengths & got results. Whether or not the form would have dipped had he stayed, no one knows, it’s a bit like saying we would have gone down if DC stayed. What we see now is that the change in tactics has either highlighted our shortcomings or perhaps we don’t have the players capable or we have hit a poor run of form, either way we are not getting results, so I feel grumpy. Just as well we had a good first half of the season. It amazes me that people moan about the style of football when we are winning, but then when we go on a losing streak, we all look forward to a win at any cost, irrespective of the style. I don’t believe crowds were down due to the standard of football, I’m more inclined to look at whether or not attendances are down in general & look then at the surroundings at the Mem. One of the questions on the survey was what time do you arrive on match days, I put 2:30, then was asked what could they do to encourage me to arrive earlier. Really? Why would I want to spend more time inside the stadium? I might need to take a sh1t, and then what? Exactly this. I could go to a match where we have no shots, no possession and bore the life from me, but if we won 1-0 I'd be happy and back the next game. All that matters to me is the results. I know other people think differently, but I'd rather see us win. Spot on, one of the most satisfying New Year’s Day ever was back in the 80’s, we had the sh1t away & got absolutely hammered & then in the last minute we scored a screamer (Smart?) to nick it 1-0. Loads of yeah but’s from my mates who supported them, but as I said, but we won. As you say on to the next game. Don’t get me wrong, if we can win & play really exciting football that’s icing on the cake. |
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Post by markczgas on Jan 23, 2020 8:36:52 GMT
So not only is it a gaschatfact that our form wouldn't have continued, it's now a gascastpodcastfact. No reason why it couldn’t have continued. I think some may be in denial of what could have been, and some may have disliked GC that much they’re convinced this could have been the case! I love what GC instilled into our squad - but we were no way 4th best in the league - that was after 19 games or so ....... without strengthening I think most Gasheads would have told you being in top 6 after 44 with that squad and injuries wasn't going to happen. Now BG is here, we still have lots of key injuries : Jaakkola, Hare and for me the main one Ogogo, and he has brought in 3 new outfield players and probably getting rid of a similar number - it's become almost like pre-season. But I understand why he's done it - more flair going forward. It's going to take time to bed in. So yeah MASSES of patience needed. Would be happy with a scoring draw on Saturday and then hopefully a win soon - maybe Tranmere or Blackpool coming up. |
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Post by markczgas on Jan 23, 2020 8:41:42 GMT
Too many people watch too much football on sky & expect to see the same in L1. First thing I want ,when going to see Rovers play, is a win. Whether we play good football or not is secondary to me, and always has been. I wasn’t all for Coughlan at first, but admit he got the players playing to their strengths & got results. Whether or not the form would have dipped had he stayed, no one knows, it’s a bit like saying we would have gone down if DC stayed. What we see now is that the change in tactics has either highlighted our shortcomings or perhaps we don’t have the players capable or we have hit a poor run of form, either way we are not getting results, so I feel grumpy. Just as well we had a good first half of the season. It amazes me that people moan about the style of football when we are winning, but then when we go on a losing streak, we all look forward to a win at any cost, irrespective of the style. I don’t believe crowds were down due to the standard of football, I’m more inclined to look at whether or not attendances are down in general & look then at the surroundings at the Mem. One of the questions on the survey was what time do you arrive on match days, I put 2:30, then was asked what could they do to encourage me to arrive earlier. Really? Why would I want to spend more time inside the stadium? I might need to take a sh1t, and then what? It's not just this. If at home, you get pounded by most teams then you know - relegation is on the cards. You can get pounded a few times and sneak a win but over a season it means your team are going to struggle. Performances count big time - as good ones will reap more wins than losses. Only at crunch times near the end of the season - when nerves and pressure for points can be massive should you stomach crap performances that get you points. p.s. I don't support any Prem team ! |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 23, 2020 10:49:48 GMT
No reason why it couldn’t have continued. I think some may be in denial of what could have been, and some may have disliked GC that much they’re convinced this could have been the case! I love what GC instilled into our squad - but we were no way 4th best in the league - that was after 19 games or so ....... without strengthening I think most Gasheads would have told you being in top 6 after 44 with that squad and injuries wasn't going to happen. Now BG is here, we still have lots of key injuries : Jaakkola, Hare and for me the main one Ogogo, and he has brought in 3 new outfield players and probably getting rid of a similar number - it's become almost like pre-season. But I understand why he's done it - more flair going forward. It's going to take time to bed in. So yeah MASSES of patience needed. Would be happy with a scoring draw on Saturday and then hopefully a win soon - maybe Tranmere or Blackpool coming up. Agreed, but there was no reason the wheels would have come off the wagon like they have. GC leaving has been like a reboot whereas if he stayed we still may be within the playoffs for instance. Hopefully BGs new signings turn good and a few continuous days on the training ground without having to play a match, plus a more palatable run of fixtures will result in a turnaround of our fortunes. |
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