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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 23, 2020 11:30:48 GMT
What a shame, I wanted Andre to be given a chance Not sure chucking a vastly inexperienced keeper in when we're on an awful run would do much good for him or us.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 23, 2020 11:32:22 GMT
It will balance itself out when JCH, Clarke Kigour and Sercombe get sold at 11.54pm on the last day. Would not surprise me if Kilgour went we have had plenty of scouts at the mem watching our players There's always scouts at any game though. Probably watching our opponents given our current run.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2020 11:42:01 GMT
It will balance itself out when JCH, Clarke Kigour and Sercombe get sold at 11.54pm on the last day. Would not surprise me if Kilgour went we have had plenty of scouts at the mem watching our players Hopefully not. He's probably one of our lowest earners and as he came through the youth set up, hopefully he will want to stay for another few years. More likely to look at getting some of our higher earners off the books, if anyone will take them.
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Post by bradthemiller on Jan 23, 2020 12:05:01 GMT
Blackman is one heck of a keeper. Rightly very highly rated, I saw quite a bit of him at Sheffield United & Wycombe & he isn't as inexperienced as one or two Gas fans think, he just got swallowed up in Chelsea's vortex of players they pick up but have no intention of playing.
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Post by spiess1 on Jan 23, 2020 12:55:03 GMT
Clearly. As he went to Sunderland. Why are you on here? All you seem to do is come on here and correct people. I could maybe understand it if you contributed to some forum debate etc too but literally all you seem to do on here is try to make others look silly by correcting them and being patronising. Why be wrong when you can be right? ( combativeness by the way).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 13:02:28 GMT
Excellent signing for us ...Nice surprise as well ! Think he could do very well for us .... nice to see the link with Chelsea is still open after the Colkett / Clarke Salter /DC disaster. Well I mean that’s just an outright lie isn’t it? Colkett was class he was just inconsistent which isn’t something to be surprised about with a young player. We probably couldn’t afford to play him as often as we wanted purely because of that, we needed someone to perform a 6/10 every game rather than someone who was a 9/10 one week then a 3/10 for the next 3. CS came with a huge amount of pressure if you ask me, being talked about as the next John Terry etc from everyone at Chelsea and people familiar with England at youth level. He didn’t do too well and hasn’t really anywhere he’s been but they were hardly disasters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 13:06:39 GMT
The words haven't translated well … Apologies!
For the record I really liked Colkett but I think DC hit his confidence hard when declaring he didn't do enough and sent him back to Chelsea early.
We were a stepping stone for Clarke Salter nothing more and so it proved.
Chelsea were not happy with the way we handled CC - At the time it was muted they wouldn't let us have access to any other of their young stars and they have plenty. That was my point DCs handling of the situation was very poor in my opinion.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 23, 2020 13:21:15 GMT
The words haven't translated well … Apologies! For the record I really liked Colkett but I think DC hit his confidence hard when declaring he didn't do enough and sent him back to Chelsea early. We were a stepping stone for Clarke Salter nothing more and so it proved. Chelsea were not happy with the way we handled CC - At the time it was muted they wouldn't let us have access to any other of their young stars and they have plenty. That was my point DCs handling of the situation was very poor in my opinion. Charlie was immediately loaned to Swindon, when he appeared against us at the Mem he looked quite effective taking the ball from the keeper but we pressed hard in their half and he never got beyond the halfway line.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 23, 2020 13:24:35 GMT
The words haven't translated well … Apologies! For the record I really liked Colkett but I think DC hit his confidence hard when declaring he didn't do enough and sent him back to Chelsea early. We were a stepping stone for Clarke Salter nothing more and so it proved. Chelsea were not happy with the way we handled CC - At the time it was muted they wouldn't let us have access to any other of their young stars and they have plenty. That was my point DCs handling of the situation was very poor in my opinion. Charlie was immediately loaned to Swindon, when he appeared against us at the Mem he looked quite effective taking the ball from the keeper but we pressed hard in their half and he never got beyond the halfway line.
That’s because we had Sincs. A player like Colkett will never get the time on the ball he needs when you have someone like Sincs harassing you.
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Post by windy1 on Jan 23, 2020 15:26:30 GMT
Charlie Colkett now plays for ÖFK Östersund in Sweden Where my son lives I did watch Jamal Blackman play for ÖFK when he was on loan there when Graham Potter was their Manager Let's just say the loan spell did not go well!
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 23, 2020 15:35:47 GMT
Charlie Colkett now plays for ÖFK Östersund in Sweden Where my son lives I did watch Jamal Blackman play for ÖFK when he was on loan there when Graham Potter was their Manager Let's just say the loan spell did not go well! . What didn't go well?? What were his weaknesses etc
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Post by lpgas on Jan 23, 2020 18:20:43 GMT
If blackman performs like clarke-salter and colkett this will be a disaster as well. But on paper this one looks a good signing. but Clarke-Salter and Colkett weren't a disaster. They did ok, maybe even more than ok for a while. Why this slating of every ex-player deemed not a success ?? They didn't get enough game time, mainly because DC believes you shouldn't be training up other clubs players
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Post by madgas on Jan 23, 2020 18:32:03 GMT
Thought Colkett was wheyyyyy above league one. Suprised his career hasn't kicked on.
We had him for 5 months and he got 3 or so goals and similar assists. I think when hes forced to graft for it he will be insanely good.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 23, 2020 18:32:57 GMT
The words haven't translated well … Apologies! For the record I really liked Colkett but I think DC hit his confidence hard when declaring he didn't do enough and sent him back to Chelsea early. We were a stepping stone for Clarke Salter nothing more and so it proved. Chelsea were not happy with the way we handled CC - At the time it was muted they wouldn't let us have access to any other of their young stars and they have plenty. That was my point DCs handling of the situation was very poor in my opinion. Yes Lionheart that I can agree with. I didn’t know or have perhaps forgotten that last bit. DC never liked using loans did he? BG might be very different, having a completely different background. UTG!
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Post by wilmslowgas on Jan 23, 2020 19:58:50 GMT
but Clarke-Salter and Colkett weren't a disaster. They did ok, maybe even more than ok for a while. Why this slating of every ex-player deemed not a success ?? They didn't get enough game time, mainly because DC believes you shouldn't be training up other clubs players If DC believes in not training up other clubs players why bother taking them on loan in the first place?
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 23, 2020 22:56:54 GMT
The words haven't translated well … Apologies! For the record I really liked Colkett but I think DC hit his confidence hard when declaring he didn't do enough and sent him back to Chelsea early. We were a stepping stone for Clarke Salter nothing more and so it proved. Chelsea were not happy with the way we handled CC - At the time it was muted they wouldn't let us have access to any other of their young stars and they have plenty. That was my point DCs handling of the situation was very poor in my opinion. Charlie was immediately loaned to Swindon, when he appeared against us at the Mem he looked quite effective taking the ball from the keeper but we pressed hard in their half and he never got beyond the halfway line.
Istr that just after he joined Swindon he did an interview to the effect that Swindon would suit him more because they played better football than us! The interview came out in the week before we played them at the Mem. Think DC put SS to hassle their defenders because they played out from the back and they were rubbish. DC got his tactics spot on and we won 1-0, should have been more and they were never near scoring and Colkett was substituted in second half. He never recovered there and they were relegated. In fact not sure he ever recovered in this country. I guess I would say that 19 year olds need some wise counselling about all aspects of football including giving interviews! UTG!
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 23, 2020 23:03:27 GMT
Charlie Colkett played 15 games, scored 3 goals and created 5 if my memory serves me right.
Not bad for a 19 year old in his first stint in League Football.
How on earth is that a disaster?
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Post by madgas on Jan 23, 2020 23:07:10 GMT
Charlie Colkett played 15 games, scored 3 goals and created 5 if my memory serves me right. Not bad for a 19 year old in his first stint in League Football. How on earth is that a disaster? A goal or an assist every other game? From a 19 year old? He was different gravy - didn't suit Clarke (who I backed 100%, he deserved that) but the lad was class.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 24, 2020 4:26:12 GMT
Thought Colkett was wheyyyyy above league one. Suprised his career hasn't kicked on. We had him for 5 months and he got 3 or so goals and similar assists. I think when hes forced to graft for it he will be insanely good. That was his issue I think Madgas. He didn’t like the grafting side of the game. Even if you look at the CAMs in the prem where you get more time on the ball they will still run 10km+ per game. Shane really because as you say good player in there somewhere.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 24, 2020 8:14:53 GMT
Yeah I remember people complaining the Colkett was a player who's "nice to have", but isn't right for us/our style of football as he didn't work hard enough in all areas of the pitch.
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