Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Jan 31, 2020 7:17:58 GMT
Just wait until Saturday morning when JCH has gone and Nichols & Bennett are still here! Moaners R us, incoming meltdown. I’m looking forward to it. 😂
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 31, 2020 9:22:03 GMT
Stinks of Football Manager where you’ve blown the budget on marquee signings so have to see the season out by panic loaning players and seeing which ones perform.
There is zero continuity in loans. ‘Transitioning’ is temporary if half the players go at the end of the season as it all has to start again at the end of the season.
At least if the managerial appointment doesn’t work out the next one gets the blankest slate since the conference relegation.
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Post by pirate on Jan 31, 2020 9:29:35 GMT
Stinks of Football Manager where you’ve blown the budget on marquee signings so have to see the season out by panic loaning players and seeing which ones perform. There is zero continuity in loans. ‘Transitioning’ is temporary if half the players go at the end of the season as it all has to start again at the end of the season. At least if the managerial appointment doesn’t work out the next one gets the blankest slate since the conference relegation. The only marquee signings we've made is the sh** that fans have to sit in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 9:29:51 GMT
Could be a lot of egg on faces come the end of the day on here, a couple of permanents today will mean people have to find something else to moan about.
The windows not closed yet, let’s see what we do before lambasting it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 9:30:24 GMT
Could be a lot of egg on faces Come the end of the day on here, a couple of permanents today will mean people have to find something else to moan about.
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Post by pirate on Jan 31, 2020 9:32:15 GMT
Could be a lot of egg on faces come the end of the day on here, a couple of permanents today will mean people have to find something else to moan about. The windows not closed yet, let’s see what we do before lambasting it? Depends on the quality.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 31, 2020 9:34:42 GMT
Stinks of Football Manager where you’ve blown the budget on marquee signings so have to see the season out by panic loaning players and seeing which ones perform. There is zero continuity in loans. ‘Transitioning’ is temporary if half the players go at the end of the season as it all has to start again at the end of the season. At least if the managerial appointment doesn’t work out the next one gets the blankest slate since the conference relegation. The only marquee signings we've made is the sh** that fans have to sit in. I think in this instance it’s the players we already have rather than what’s been bought in this window, and high D.C. earners. GC spent all the cash on the defence and had none left for the attacking side of the team as we were carrying Tommy Nichols and Kyle Bennett in the budget
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Jan 31, 2020 10:07:00 GMT
I like eggs! But back to my op, I'm very happy with permanents as they are assets of our club. Loanees are assets of their parent clubs and to build any continuity or medium term plan with loanees is like building your house on a foundation of sand. The exception is if the loan is with a view to permanent signing then it's more like an extended trial and better balanced for both clubs and player.
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Post by BrightonGas on Jan 31, 2020 10:20:14 GMT
I like eggs! But back to my op, I'm very happy with permanents as they are assets of our club. Loanees are assets of their parent clubs and to build any continuity or medium term plan with loanees is like building your house on a foundation of sand. The exception is if the loan is with a view to permanent signing then it's more like an extended trial and better balanced for both clubs and player. Would you describe Bennett and Nichols as assets? Or liabilities?
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Jan 31, 2020 10:37:17 GMT
Always exception(s) to the rule!!!
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Post by singupgas on Jan 31, 2020 10:45:30 GMT
Dont know what the OP expects, we cant afford to buy 5 players.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 11:15:05 GMT
Not a fan of loanees in general. If we do badly they all bugger off back to their parent club. If we do well their agent says thank you kindly and they go off to a bigger fish. At least as our players there is some implied loyalty and we get a fee (even if it is only £300k!). It's a good and valid point. Of course we operate under massive financial constraints but having too many loan players isn't ideal. In the case of TA, we're essentially developing an asset for Fulham and will have next to no chance of bringing him in if he has a successful spell.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 31, 2020 11:34:07 GMT
Its all about getting the right balance, think loans should really be about quick fixes due to unforeseen circumstances , and to add experience to youthful squads ,i am happy with our recent permanents and my main concern is the affect that loan signings of other clubs youngsters have on the development of our own youngsters.
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Post by Fetch on Jan 31, 2020 11:38:55 GMT
Because the last time we rushed to get a permanent player in on deadline day worked out really well financially for us... (Bennett)
Loaning players is less of a risk, and can see us to the summer where more of our permanent targets will be available.
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Post by adrian301 on Jan 31, 2020 11:50:56 GMT
I think this a club strategy to get the debt under control. "If" we get £1 million + for JCH, the price and wages for any player we're interested in, goes up.
Most if not all incoming money will be banked. Not moaning about that, just trying to be realistic.
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Post by xenongas on Jan 31, 2020 15:47:17 GMT
Could be a lot of egg on faces come the end of the day on here, a couple of permanents today will mean people have to find something else to moan about. The windows not closed yet, let’s see what we do before lambasting it? But permanent signings are just throwing money away if they go wrong! But there is no monetary value for us long term in loans! But permanent players bring stability! But loans are just gambles for short term success! Easy to get dizzy when always looking for the negatives but there will always be an angle to moan from. I hope we get a couple more in, on whatever terms, as long as they make an impact. Lambasters will continue to lambast though.
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Post by LJG on Jan 31, 2020 18:34:11 GMT
Not a fan of loanees in general. If we do badly they all bugger off back to their parent club. If we do well their agent says thank you kindly and they go off to a bigger fish. At least as our players there is some implied loyalty and we get a fee (even if it is only £300k!). This has aged poorly. And in such a short period of time.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 31, 2020 18:36:07 GMT
Lol, mods please rename thread to "too many permanents"!
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 31, 2020 18:52:40 GMT
OK clever one, being of an age when its easy to get confused could some one post a complete summary of ins/outs and whether perm or loan, this would be of great help to me and the likes of Wareham(sorry mate)the program writers and prob BG! TA
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