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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 2, 2020 20:27:18 GMT
The Gas fans have decided 60 votes to 11 to keep him IN. ๐ช๐บ
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2020 20:41:36 GMT
Thanks. Didn't hear the commentary as was at the game. Sounds like it could be a real possibility then. Could be a smart appointment. Hopefully we can bring him in to mentor Garner. Even if it's a short term role, until the end of the season. Let's hope it worked out better than it did in India where they were both sacked after 6 months, this smells of BG just rewarding his mate after Coppell did similar when he gave him a job in India. If we wanted an experienced manager sat on the bench why didn't we just employ one in the first place? I doubt Coppell will return to Bristol without being given a decent contract. images.app.goo.gl/gV6NSoHqaxwsveLp8
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2020 20:43:51 GMT
Fully agree... We may not have the results but GC's results were built on sand. Nonsense GC achieved constant results over 2 seasons and 46 games. No other Rovers manager has achieved that at this level since GF MK1.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 2, 2020 20:52:40 GMT
Stupid thread. All this sort of thing does is split the fanbase and it is too early for a thread like this IMO.
We need to give him a lot more time and the benefit of the doubt. Various issues have taken place since BG has been in charge. We have had a lot of games in a short space of time and BG has tried to change things too quickly IMO. However, we do also have to remember that he has had a lot going on off the pitch it would seem and he didn't inherit the players to play the way he wants us to play. There is no serious worry about relegation at this stage and unless it gets to that or we get even worse then I think we need to give him a fair crack of the whip. He might yet just come good.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 2, 2020 20:54:20 GMT
Writing it in capital letters doesn't make your opinion any more important, just so you KNOW.
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Post by socrates on Feb 2, 2020 20:55:04 GMT
Fully agree... We may not have the results but GC's results were built on sand. Haha ! Bullshit. They were built on hard work , organisation and the ability to motivate an average at best bunch of players in to believing that they could challenge for promotion.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 2, 2020 21:04:35 GMT
not if Steve Coppell is coming in as his number two - you heard it here first folks Coppell was at the MK Dons game. Garner was at the Mem 2 weeks before Coughlin left
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2020 21:06:21 GMT
Stupid thread. All this sort of thing does is split the fanbase and it is too early for a thread like this IMO. We need to give him a lot more time and the benefit of the doubt. Various issues have taken place since BG has been in charge. We have had a lot of games in a short space of time and BG has tried to change things too quickly IMO. However, we do also have to remember that he has had a lot going on off the pitch it would seem and he didn't inherit the players to play the way he wants us to play. There is no serious worry about relegation at this stage and unless it gets to that or we get even worse then I think we need to give him a fair crack of the whip. He might yet just come good. If it a "stupid thread" why have you posted a long response? Personally I feel BG has the next 3 games to get his first win or it could be the Rochdale game on the 28 March before we finally get one, by then the pressure on BG will be enormous. If we fail to beat Wycombe or Tranmere then getting an experienced Assistant might well be what's required to give us the boost needed to beat Blackpool. Although the big danger is Grayson gets the boot if they fail to beat Southend at home on Saturday, or alternatively they win both games next week and then come to the Mem on a high!
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Post by Gassy on Feb 2, 2020 21:07:17 GMT
If you're asking in or out tomorrow morning, then definitely in, but ultimately I'm not sure yet on Ben.
All these signings at least make me think that he needs a bit more time to try and make this group work.
However, if we haven't picked up after another 9 games (not sure I can last that long though tbh) then really he will need to move on. If we're still not winning games after 20 games in charge, we never will.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 2, 2020 21:17:36 GMT
Stupid thread. All this sort of thing does is split the fanbase and it is too early for a thread like this IMO. We need to give him a lot more time and the benefit of the doubt. Various issues have taken place since BG has been in charge. We have had a lot of games in a short space of time and BG has tried to change things too quickly IMO. However, we do also have to remember that he has had a lot going on off the pitch it would seem and he didn't inherit the players to play the way he wants us to play. There is no serious worry about relegation at this stage and unless it gets to that or we get even worse then I think we need to give him a fair crack of the whip. He might yet just come good. If it a "stupid thread" why have you posted a long response? Personally I feel BG has the next 3 games to get his first win or it could be the Rochdale game on the 28 March before we finally get one, by then the pressure on BG will be enormous. If we fail to beat Wycombe or Tranmere then getting an experienced Assistant might well be what's required to give us the boost needed to beat Blackpool. Although the big danger is Grayson gets the boot if they fail to beat Southend at home on Saturday, or alternatively they win both games next week and then come to the Mem on a high! Because just saying "stupid thread" without justifying it would be too easy and rude. SO I thought I would justify my reasoning so it is clear and simple but even that is not good enough for you is it Topper. Take a pill and chill. ๐
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 2, 2020 21:18:51 GMT
Coppell was at the MK Dons game. Garner was at the Mem 2 weeks before Coughlin left Coughlan* and whilst we're at it Kilgour*, for everyone that keeps misspelling that one. Thank you.
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Post by Slide away on Feb 2, 2020 21:43:35 GMT
What evidence is there that BG will turn things around, or fulfil a strategic vision? He's never been a manager. He can't say, 'This is how I work', or 'When I managed **** it took us X years to get things right' We were within a whisker of second place and the club goes and appoints a rookie manager. Second half performances show that he lacks the ability to motivate or tactically change things around. All I can see is a downward spiral. Exactly this...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 21:49:56 GMT
Think he will be a great success given time..... For what itโs worth I think we will get 7 points from those three games!
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Post by markczgas on Feb 2, 2020 21:50:03 GMT
terrible thread.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 2, 2020 21:52:06 GMT
What evidence is there that BG will turn things around, or fulfil a strategic vision? He's never been a manager. He can't say, 'This is how I work', or 'When I managed **** it took us X years to get things right' We were within a whisker of second place and the club goes and appoints a rookie manager. Second half performances show that he lacks the ability to motivate or tactically change things around. All I can see is a downward spiral. Exactly this... Remember Coughlan was a rookie manager. He's also not replicating what he did with us. Football is an unpredictable business.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2020 22:19:59 GMT
Remember Coughlan was a rookie manager. He's also not replicating what he did with us. Football is an unpredictable business. Difference with us was GC was already in the buidling, if he'd flopped as a caretaker he'd have never been given a contract, Wael's got stuck with BG after foolishly offering him an unemployed manager a 2.5 year contract, unless like Mansfield did he built in some get out clauses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 0:21:38 GMT
Coppell was at the MK Dons game. Garner was at the Mem 2 weeks before Coughlin left What was he doing at the mem? Did you see him there?
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Post by completewingback on Feb 3, 2020 0:25:53 GMT
Agree. It does absolutely nothing but stir the pot. Or do people really think that, should "Garner out" win, the ALQs are going to read the thread and go "ah, nuts, it seems we got it wrong lads. Those lovely chaps back at Gas Chat Dot Co Dot UK seem to want Garner out! Get Starnes on the phone in five, please"
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Post by endicotton on Feb 3, 2020 5:23:40 GMT
I just want to make my stance clear, I think Garner is a long-term project who will succeed in the long-term, but I hear much divide on this forum about Garner. Let's assume we lose our next 3 games against Wycombe, Tranmere and Blackpool. What would your stance be?ย I don't think he'll be going anywhere no matter how poorly he does or we play this season so we might aswell get behind him and the team no matter how we feel about his appointment. I stick by what I thought originally, that I believe the club should of recruited from within or hired someone with a similar style to the one we were already implementing but the club chose BG and I shall give him due patience in order to see him become a success at the gas.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 3, 2020 6:26:54 GMT
I just want to make my stance clear, I think Garner is a long-term project who will succeed in the long-term, but I hear much divide on this forum about Garner. Let's assume we lose our next 3 games against Wycombe, Tranmere and Blackpool. What would your stance be?ย I don't think he'll be going anywhere no matter how poorly he does or we play this season so we might aswell get behind him and the team no matter how we feel about his appointment. I stick by what I thought originally, that I believe the club should of recruited from within or hired someone with a similar style to the one we were already implementing but the club chose BG and I shall give him due patience in order to see him become a success at the gas. Assuming Davey always wanted to join GC if Wael had appointed Maher posters would have accussed them of taking the cheap option/ they wanted to move on from GC's style of football. BG joined us just at the wrong time, plus we've no idea if he's up to the job or not. Perhaps getting someone in like Coppell would be a good, but costly (?), move.
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