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Post by Squiffy on Feb 13, 2020 15:02:01 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 13, 2020 15:17:41 GMT
I think most clubs try and emulate this. Just not all are very successful at it. It's not really rocket science to be honest. - Buy/sign young with potential
- Try and improve
- Sell for a profit
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 13, 2020 15:19:27 GMT
Great plan:
1) Be Dortmund
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 13, 2020 15:21:00 GMT
German clubs lead the way when it comes to viewing football as a business without pushing out and alienating supporters like we’re seeing in the UK.
Tickets to stand at Dortmund for example cost roughly €18, what value that is to watch one of the best teams in Europe.
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Post by knowall on Feb 13, 2020 15:22:45 GMT
Not so many years ago, this was the Rovers Strategy and very successful it was
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 13, 2020 15:28:19 GMT
German clubs lead the way when it comes to viewing football as a business without pushing out and alienating supporters like we’re seeing in the UK. Tickets to stand at Dortmund for example cost roughly €18, what value that is to watch one of the best teams in Europe. Some tickets cost €9, most do not. There’s an odd idea that Bundesliga tickets are uniformly very cheap when, in reality most cost around the same price as English PL matches. It’s a bit different down the pyramid where Bundesliga 2 and Liga 3 you’ll often be able to pick up terrace tickets for around a tenner, seated tickets for up to and over twenty quid.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 13, 2020 15:31:07 GMT
I think most clubs try and emulate this. Just not all are very successful at it. It's not really rocket science to be honest. - Buy/sign young with potential
- Try and improve
- Sell for a profit
Don't forget manage the contracts of those players. It's pointless if they can just walk out on a free or for a fraction of their value because they let their contract run down That would just be stupid...
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 13, 2020 15:35:38 GMT
German clubs lead the way when it comes to viewing football as a business without pushing out and alienating supporters like we’re seeing in the UK. Tickets to stand at Dortmund for example cost roughly €18, what value that is to watch one of the best teams in Europe. Some tickets cost €9, most do not. There’s an odd idea that Bundesliga tickets are uniformly very cheap when, in reality most cost around the same price as English PL matches. It’s a bit different down the pyramid where Bundesliga 2 and Liga 3 you’ll often be able to pick up terrace tickets for around a tenner, seated tickets for up to and over twenty quid. Yep, I was looking at going over to Cologne (I think) a few months ago and watching a Dortmund game, but when looking at the ticket prices, it actually put me off.
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Post by tbonegas on Feb 13, 2020 15:52:46 GMT
Charge £4 for a Ginsters pasty that costs £1 in a store. That's an easy money maker.
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Post by gregsy on Feb 13, 2020 16:08:42 GMT
Strikes me that since the introduction of the financial fair play rules things are beginning to get worse for lower league clubs....
Uefa, the pfa, and the EFL really need to find a way to fix the mess....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 13, 2020 16:15:44 GMT
If you want to make a small fortune out of football, start with a big one.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 13, 2020 16:31:37 GMT
Some tickets cost €9, most do not. There’s an odd idea that Bundesliga tickets are uniformly very cheap when, in reality most cost around the same price as English PL matches. It’s a bit different down the pyramid where Bundesliga 2 and Liga 3 you’ll often be able to pick up terrace tickets for around a tenner, seated tickets for up to and over twenty quid. Yep, I was looking at going over to Cologne (I think) a few months ago and watching a Dortmund game, but when looking at the ticket prices, it actually put me off. I went and paid €17.70 from the official ticket site 2 days before the match.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 13, 2020 16:35:32 GMT
On another note. I had a dabble on Dortmund for the champions league the other week at 55/1. Unlikely but overpriced IMO. They have a very good teaem.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 13, 2020 16:42:08 GMT
Some tickets cost €9, most do not. There’s an odd idea that Bundesliga tickets are uniformly very cheap when, in reality most cost around the same price as English PL matches. It’s a bit different down the pyramid where Bundesliga 2 and Liga 3 you’ll often be able to pick up terrace tickets for around a tenner, seated tickets for up to and over twenty quid. Yep, I was looking at going over to Cologne (I think) a few months ago and watching a Dortmund game, but when looking at the ticket prices, it actually put me off. DM me, I'll sort you something.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 13, 2020 16:42:33 GMT
On another note. I had a dabble on Dortmund for the champions league the other week at 55/1. Unlikely but overpriced IMO. They have a very good teaem. They literally can't defend.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 13, 2020 16:53:06 GMT
On another note. I had a dabble on Dortmund for the champions league the other week at 55/1. Unlikely but overpriced IMO. They have a very good teaem. They literally can't defend. Fair enough, have some good forward players though. What's happened to Hummels then? I think Champions league is quite open. Spanish teams not as good as they were, PSG are unproven at CL level. Man City aren't themselves this season. Not many teams defend the champions league (Liverpool). Bayern and Juve strong but not unbeatable. Dortmund had a tough group to qualify from too (Barca, Inter, Slavia), and they have strengthened signing Haaland since then.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 13, 2020 18:28:56 GMT
Not so many years ago, this was the Rovers Strategy and very successful it was The contract structures of professional football make it very difficult for lower clubs to consistently buy young players, improve and sell them for profit. Nonetheless some clubs seem to do better than others. For example, Peterborough have acquired a reputation for this strategy. Due to varying contract lengths we lost three players at considerably less than their market rate: Snake, Bodin & Lockyer. On the other hand we did well with Harrison - although some supporters felt we let him go cheap. in reality all lower league teams are selling clubs. Every player has a price. It's for the prospective buyer to ascertain what that price is.
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Post by Raj Gas on Feb 13, 2020 18:48:25 GMT
Not so many years ago, this was the Rovers Strategy and very successful it was It was, but then managers came in and used experienced players they knew because the risks of getting things wrong was often their own job.
The youngsters have had a real struggle to break through over many years now, disappointing but with our lack of patience and mangerial turnover you can't really blame the managers.
Perhaps this is about to change.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 13, 2020 18:52:43 GMT
I think a lot of it comes down to luck. Yes, good scouts are important. But for every Jason Roberts, there are 5 Bernard Mensahs.
Dortmund have an incredible system of building, selling and rebuilding. For me, it’s the rebuilding bit that we get wrong. How long did it take to replace Lambert?
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 13, 2020 19:35:30 GMT
I think a lot of it comes down to luck. Yes, good scouts are important. But for every Jason Roberts, there are 5 Bernard Mensahs. Dortmund have an incredible system of building, selling and rebuilding. For me, it’s the rebuilding bit that we get wrong. How long did it take to replace Lambert? Did we ever replace him?
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