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Post by baggins on Jul 30, 2020 13:48:56 GMT
I'd pick a creative midfielder and another striker. You happy with the wide player's for 443 or 442 then?? Not happy with Bennett and Rodman has not done anything outstanding. Think another winger week allow us to play more formations. I would love a striker. But think other positions need to be sorted first. Barrett's fitness could change things though. Plus we never know Bennett could come back a different player now he needs to earn a new contract somewhere. Rodman would be in my line up. Every week. Funny how we see each player isn't it.
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2020 13:55:44 GMT
I like Phillips' potential, but going into the season with only the strikers we have on the books is a mistake IMHO. I think the club management also seem to like the look of Harry Warwick "Pace To Burn" and at development level plenty of goals. I also get the impression the club feels Jonah is the real deal. Warwick might have potential, but he has spent a couple of loan spells away from the club at four tiers below during the last two seasons and only managed to score 1 goal in 16 league games. Again, Ayunga might develop into a good player, but he's 23-years-old and couldn't score at u23 level for Brighton and the season before last only managed 6 goals in 33 National League games. Before that he got 4 goals in 23 games in the Irish League. I wish them well and may prove to be good players, but naive to expect them to be ready to score goals at League One level.
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2020 13:57:54 GMT
I'd pick a creative midfielder and another striker. You happy with the wide player's for 443 or 442 then?? Not happy with Bennett and Rodman has not done anything outstanding. Think another winger week allow us to play more formations. I would love a striker. But think other positions need to be sorted first. Barrett's fitness could change things though. Plus we never know Bennett could come back a different player now he needs to earn a new contract somewhere. I think we need another winger too, but with Nicholson, Rodman and Barrett who can play there, we look stronger in that position than we do depth and quality wise up top.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 30, 2020 14:02:16 GMT
You happy with the wide player's for 443 or 442 then?? Not happy with Bennett and Rodman has not done anything outstanding. Think another winger week allow us to play more formations. I would love a striker. But think other positions need to be sorted first. Barrett's fitness could change things though. Plus we never know Bennett could come back a different player now he needs to earn a new contract somewhere. I think we need another winger too, but with Nicholson, Rodman and Barrett who can play there, we look stronger in that position than we do depth and quality wise up top. It certainly is a squad aimed at the future. If you take out JCH goals, how many goals at League 1 level do the rest of the squad have between them?? A lot of player's with the potential to score at this level, but it's definitely a risky strategy.
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2020 14:04:18 GMT
I think we need another winger too, but with Nicholson, Rodman and Barrett who can play there, we look stronger in that position than we do depth and quality wise up top. It certainly is a squad aimed at the future. If you take out JCH goals, how many goals at League 1 level do the rest of the squad have between them?? A lot of player's with the potential to score at this level, but it's definitely a risky strategy. Not many goals. Very risky.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 30, 2020 14:44:10 GMT
Having heard the TG & MS podcast and the TW conference call with the Hartlepool lads, it’s become apparent that with Starnes part of the EFL effort to draft the salary cap provisions Rovers are always anticipating to shape their squad in line with what those restrictions are likely to be and as TW stated that is going to be 21 qualifying senior professional players. So what is a balanced squad in that scenario? 2GK + 2 RB + 2LB + 5CB + 2RM + 2LM + 2DCM + 2ACM + 2CF that’s 21...and with Andre now 23 years old we have 3 senior keepers now not 2 and another of our 21 is the, so far, underperforming Bennett. Depends what the rules are re players under 21 who did not come through our academy (like Daly), but clearly we don’t have a lot of open spots available and if you want three senior centre forwards then you unbalance the squad somewhere else. My view is we won’t sign another senior striker but at the back end of the window we’ll see how much of the cap allowance we’ve still got available and take some players on loan in the mould of JML and Tyler Smith/Timmie Abraham where the parent club finances all or part of their wages as part of the deal.
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Post by james246 on Jul 30, 2020 14:51:09 GMT
I think the club management also seem to like the look of Harry Warwick "Pace To Burn" and at development level plenty of goals. I also get the impression the club feels Jonah is the real deal. Warwick might have potential, but he has spent a couple of loan spells away from the club at four tiers below during the last two seasons and only managed to score 1 goal in 16 league games. Again, Ayunga might develop into a good player, but he's 23-years-old and couldn't score at u23 level for Brighton and the season before last only managed 6 goals in 33 National League games. Before that he got 4 goals in 23 games in the Irish League. I wish them well and may prove to be good players, but naive to expect them to be ready to score goals at League One level. I might have this completely wrong but I thought Jonah early in his career played as a winger, and only more recently played as a striker.
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Post by badengas on Jul 30, 2020 14:58:11 GMT
Tell Chuck it's time for a reunion.... last saw them in The Granary. Unfortunately one of the Chuck's passed away a number of years ago - think it was the lead guitarist (but I maybe wrong and may have been the singer). I saw them twice The Studio and Goldiggers, Chippenham which was their last ever gig and the support was a male and female strippers.🤣 Granary you say, then you'll enjoy this - Thank you for that, I'm in the crowd somewhere. Not sure the Gary Glitter cover would still be part of the set now though.
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Post by pirate on Jul 30, 2020 15:04:59 GMT
Warwick might have potential, but he has spent a couple of loan spells away from the club at four tiers below during the last two seasons and only managed to score 1 goal in 16 league games. Again, Ayunga might develop into a good player, but he's 23-years-old and couldn't score at u23 level for Brighton and the season before last only managed 6 goals in 33 National League games. Before that he got 4 goals in 23 games in the Irish League. I wish them well and may prove to be good players, but naive to expect them to be ready to score goals at League One level. I might have this completely wrong but I thought Jonah early in his career played as a winger, and only more recently played as a striker. Played as a striker mostly. I saw him playing as a striker for Dorchester back when he was a teenager.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 15:08:56 GMT
Warwick might have potential, but he has spent a couple of loan spells away from the club at four tiers below during the last two seasons and only managed to score 1 goal in 16 league games. Again, Ayunga might develop into a good player, but he's 23-years-old and couldn't score at u23 level for Brighton and the season before last only managed 6 goals in 33 National League games. Before that he got 4 goals in 23 games in the Irish League. I wish them well and may prove to be good players, but naive to expect them to be ready to score goals at League One level. I might have this completely wrong but I thought Jonah early in his career played as a winger, and only more recently played as a striker. I think you’re right. I distinctly remember him wearing number 11 and tearing Tony Underwood and Mike Catt to shreds - or am I thinking of a different Jonah?
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 30, 2020 19:53:58 GMT
ITK or just gut feeling? UTG! Been told by a fairly authoratative source. Mmm. Thanks for that. I suppose the three we have, JCH, JD and JA would be supplemented by Warwick and others. Perhaps time for the youngsters to step up. And perhaps that might mean we play with only one striker at times, esp away. Interesting you say no more strikers coming in and I’ve just listened to Tommy W say how’s in the PL players who don’t get there by 22 (I think) are let go to allow others coming through to get the chance. So perhaps the youngsters are expected to step up and if they don’t at least they will know. UTG!
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Post by madgas on Jul 30, 2020 20:25:38 GMT
You happy with the wide player's for 443 or 442 then?? Not happy with Bennett and Rodman has not done anything outstanding. Think another winger week allow us to play more formations. I would love a striker. But think other positions need to be sorted first. Barrett's fitness could change things though. Plus we never know Bennett could come back a different player now he needs to earn a new contract somewhere. Rodman would be in my line up. Every week. Funny how we see each player isn't it. It's odd eh? Alot of his first season he was injured. Then GC didnt really play with wingers. But in small bits here and there Rodders has shown some quality. I could see him leaving but equally, if we become this ball playing team that were aspiring to be I think Rodders could become a real asset. He was quality in a Shrewsbury side that played very good football. Keeping out Dan James. Another aspect is that Rodders hasn't really had a true right back behind him. In his first season it was James Clarke a 3/4s FB- not one that regularly gets beyond the outside. And last season- the majoritu of his appearances were at RB. I'm hopeful of really good season for Rodders
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 30, 2020 20:41:02 GMT
It certainly is a squad aimed at the future. If you take out JCH goals, how many goals at League 1 level do the rest of the squad have between them?? A lot of player's with the potential to score at this level, but it's definitely a risky strategy. Not many goals. Very risky. Unless Nicholson is being seen more as a striker than winger, from the YouTube videos he does seem more of a goal scorer than goal maker, although the videos may not give a true reflection of his game. If SN is seen as a striker that means we can bring a couple of youngsters on loan again to play on the wings.
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Post by markczgas on Jul 30, 2020 22:49:23 GMT
Rodman would be in my line up. Every week. Funny how we see each player isn't it. It's odd eh? Alot of his first season he was injured. Then GC didnt really play with wingers. But in small bits here and there Rodders has shown some quality. I could see him leaving but equally, if we become this ball playing team that were aspiring to be I think Rodders could become a real asset. He was quality in a Shrewsbury side that played very good football. Keeping out Dan James. Another aspect is that Rodders hasn't really had a true right back behind him. In his first season it was James Clarke a 3/4s FB- not one that regularly gets beyond the outside. And last season- the majoritu of his appearances were at RB. I'm hopeful of really good season for Rodders Rodman is a good footballer, now doubt. And yes he had a tough job last season playing out of position as you say. The only thing against him is he's reached the twilight of his career. Hopefully, 1 more good season in him.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 31, 2020 9:42:29 GMT
You happy with the wide player's for 443 or 442 then?? Not happy with Bennett and Rodman has not done anything outstanding. Think another winger week allow us to play more formations. I would love a striker. But think other positions need to be sorted first. Barrett's fitness could change things though. Plus we never know Bennett could come back a different player now he needs to earn a new contract somewhere. I think we need another winger too, but with Nicholson, Rodman and Barrett who can play there, we look stronger in that position than we do depth and quality wise up top. Have been told no more signings unless somebody leaves 100% Source
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 31, 2020 9:49:17 GMT
I think we need another winger too, but with Nicholson, Rodman and Barrett who can play there, we look stronger in that position than we do depth and quality wise up top. Have been told no more signings unless somebody leaves 100% Source That source is better source than Garner then?? Expect we will bring in a few cheap loan player's, if no more permanents.
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Post by james246 on Jul 31, 2020 10:10:34 GMT
I think we need another winger too, but with Nicholson, Rodman and Barrett who can play there, we look stronger in that position than we do depth and quality wise up top. Have been told no more signings unless somebody leaves 100% Source I guess we have been looking at this very carefully as a first choice replacement for JCH. I assume his potential arrival (if he wants to come to us) is dependent on Johnson's decision to remain or leave.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2020 11:24:12 GMT
Have been told no more signings unless somebody leaves 100% Source That source is better source than Garner then?? Expect we will bring in a few cheap loan player's, if no more permanents. I'd imagine BG is looking to offload Ogogo &/or Upson plus possibly Little and you never know Bennett may one day leave so it's not only JCH who might be leaving. Although the way BG is talking about JCH's position being resolved in the "coming weeks" I sense his position won't be resolved 'til late Sept/early Oct. Unless Barrett or Upson come back better players it's hard to see who's going to be our creative CM, unless BG's binned the 4-4-2 idea and we're going to play with wing backs and two DCM's.
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Post by baggins on Jul 31, 2020 11:46:21 GMT
That source is better source than Garner then?? Expect we will bring in a few cheap loan player's, if no more permanents. I'd imagine BG is looking to offload Ogogo &/or Upson plus possibly Little and you never know Bennett may one day leave so it's not only JCH who might be leaving. Although the way BG is talking about JCH's position being resolved in the "coming weeks" I sense his position won't be resolved 'til late Sept/early Oct. Unless Barrett or Upson come back better players it's hard to see who's going to be our creative CM, unless BG's binned the 4-4-2 idea and we're going to play with wing backs and two DCM's. When's the final date for everything? Loans, signings etc?
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