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Post by curlywurly on Aug 6, 2020 15:29:05 GMT
It was an awful time for us. As I recall Buckle tried to bring about half of a moderately useful bunch of Torquay players with him. Unfortunately, he brought the wrong half and we ended up with really poor players and a dreadful manager. According to this article he signed 21......yes 21 players for Rovers in his brief stint as manager
Craig Stanley is one that proves your case!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 15:55:37 GMT
Didn't Kitey grab him, as he said something along the lines of 'it's hard to please Bristolians, as there all a bunch of lady gardens'? Always a great way to get your fans onside! It was probably more likely to be the fact that Buckle wanted Kitey out so that he could install his own man from Torquay who relayed every comment uttered by the players back to him. Buckle's insecurities are the reason that the bloke will never be successful.
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 6, 2020 16:05:25 GMT
Although he was an odious man, a lot of what he says in that article makes sense. There was clearly a player power struggle in the club, that was obvious in the Dave Penney debacle. Still it's history now, so probably not worth getting ones knickers in a twist. UTG the same with Dobson, the players wanted to choose the manager then
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 6, 2020 16:06:53 GMT
Of course our new manager wont have the problem of player power because most of the players are his. Thats the only way around it.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Aug 6, 2020 17:00:36 GMT
Never your fault was it Buckle? Always someone else's. You're a Dam oompa loompa.
I remember the game against Torquay that season when Rovers fans were chanting "we hate Buckle more than you".
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Post by Marshy on Aug 6, 2020 17:03:54 GMT
I don’t understand why we have 3 pages about this complete waste of space? The bloke was/is a complete and utter lady garden!
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 6, 2020 17:28:17 GMT
The only good thing about Buckle is that he signed Michael Smith and Mustapha Carayol.
The other 99.8% is odious.
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Post by rusho'gas on Aug 6, 2020 18:14:32 GMT
Buckle was a self important clown. Got what he deserved, odious little man with an ego larger than the sum of the parts. Good riddance 'orrible little orange man. Only good game I ever saw under him was Totton away, everything else was instantly forgettable.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 6, 2020 18:29:00 GMT
The only good thing about Buckle is that he signed Michael Smith and Mustapha Carayol. The other 99.8% is odious. Didn’t he sign Lee Brown too?
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 6, 2020 18:33:24 GMT
Signed some good players for us, and we were a basket case on and off the pitch. Underated by most, I think player power saw him off before the fans started to get on his back. I liked him. Not even in my top 5 worse Rovers managers. He signed 22 players for the club in his 24-game stint as boss. How many of those were ‘good players’ for us? Carayol, Brown and Smith are the only good players who signed for the club. 3 out of 22 is abysmal.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 6, 2020 19:30:55 GMT
Signed some good players for us, and we were a basket case on and off the pitch. Underated by most, I think player power saw him off before the fans started to get on his back. I liked him. Not even in my top 5 worse Rovers managers. He signed 22 players for the club in his 24-game stint as boss. How many of those were ‘good players’ for us? Carayol, Brown and Smith are the only good players who signed for the club. 3 out of 22 is abysmal. Wiki says 19. I dont think his signings as a manager are any better or worse than any other manager. Have we had better full backs signed by anyone else since? Arguably only Bodin has been a better winger. How many "good players" have all the others since Buckle signed? I'm not defending his personality because I cant, but I dont agree with you claiming he only signed 3 good players out of 22. He signed 3 great players, a few sh**e ones and the rest were bang average. In my opinion thats actually a better record than most managers I can remember.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 6, 2020 20:46:02 GMT
He signed 22 players for the club in his 24-game stint as boss. How many of those were ‘good players’ for us? Carayol, Brown and Smith are the only good players who signed for the club. 3 out of 22 is abysmal. Wiki says 19. I dont think his signings as a manager are any better or worse than any other manager. Have we had better full backs signed by anyone else since? Arguably only Bodin has been a better winger. How many "good players" have all the others since Buckle signed? I'm not defending his personality because I cant, but I dont agree with you claiming he only signed 3 good players out of 22. He signed 3 great players, a few sh**e ones and the rest were bang average. In my opinion thats actually a better record than most managers I can remember. Exactly what I thought when I read that post to be honest. Also I don't think it was his signings that let him down, his man management was clearly awful. He quite often criticised players publicly if I remember. Also failed to ccept responsibility for a defeat or bad performance. He was a massive disappointment and DC was everything I expected Buckle to be when he first came to the club.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 6, 2020 23:25:02 GMT
Buckle signed Michael Smith, yet never played him. No matter how bad things were getting defensively, MS was regularly left out of the matchday squad. It was only after Buckle was sacked, that the young Irishman was given a decent run in the side and proved to be a very capable full back.
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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 6, 2020 23:56:26 GMT
Although he was an odious man, a lot of what he says in that article makes sense. There was clearly a player power struggle in the club, that was obvious in the Dave Penney debacle. Still it's history now, so probably not worth getting ones knickers in a twist. UTG Exactly right. Wasn't that bothered by Buckle going, but if Campbell, with the support of his cronies, hadn't behaved the way they had he probably would now be viewed as a club hero but with how it all unfolded he went out the back door (to paraphrase DC).
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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 6, 2020 23:58:18 GMT
Buckle signed Michael Smith, yet never played him. No matter how bad things were getting defensively, MS was regularly left out of the matchday squad. It was only after Buckle was sacked, that the young Irishman was given a decent run in the side and proved to be a very capable full back. Atkinsesque. Signed some good players but didn't utilitise them.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 7, 2020 6:56:29 GMT
Buckle signed Michael Smith, yet never played him. No matter how bad things were getting defensively, MS was regularly left out of the matchday squad. It was only after Buckle was sacked, that the young Irishman was given a decent run in the side and proved to be a very capable full back. True but he did also sign Woodards at RB who was a good signing himself IMO.
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 7, 2020 8:08:10 GMT
He signed a few players who turned out to be brilliant for us but came across as a right who almost seemed to enjoy winding the fans up. That said, it does sound like Higgs didn't do his due diligence on Buckle and their working relationship was doomed from the off.
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Post by justin blue on Aug 7, 2020 11:22:26 GMT
I think he was just the wrong person at the time. I think he might have worked out in the conference where his kick ass style may have worked on a totally dispirited and desperate club as we were then. From what I've heard he was not popular at Torquay despite his success there. I think he may have got away with his abrasive style at a novelty seaside club, but it was never going to work here then. I think he's found his level now as a technical advisor which doesn't involve him managing players. I don't think he can have any complaints about his time with us maybe he wasn't the worst we've had, but he's probably one of the most despised.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Aug 7, 2020 11:51:51 GMT
Buckle signed Michael Smith, yet never played him. No matter how bad things were getting defensively, MS was regularly left out of the matchday squad. It was only after Buckle was sacked, that the young Irishman was given a decent run in the side and proved to be a very capable full back. True but he did also sign Woodards at RB who was a good signing himself IMO. Woodards was another injury prone player who we probably wouldn't have got otherwise. Thought he was real asset when fit though. I recall Smith really struggling when he first came into the team and opposition teams would often target him with high balls, so I can sort of understand why he wasn't given more of a chance at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. He improved massively, and quickly, when he did eventually get the chance and ended up being a quality player for us. A big loss when he moved on.
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Post by graceyboy on Aug 7, 2020 13:41:23 GMT
Where do I start with that guy? Along with atkins and dobson, one of the worst three managers in our club history. Brought in some terrible players like Ted's reserve reject Joe anyinsah, Scottish defender called Patterson and the useless non scoring donkey Chris zebroski all from his previous tin pot non league club torquay.. Our club was too big for him plain and simple. Good riddance.. He's as deluded as Sam allardyce though by saying "I was one of the best young managers around at the time" yeah right, course you were.. Maybe one of the best young managers in Devon.. Actually, he wasn't even young. Makes me shudder even thinking about that era
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