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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 30, 2020 8:11:33 GMT
Interesting the reports after yesterday's friendly with Coventry suggest JCH looked poor and heavy legged, it seems he did return to pre-season unfit. Although that could have been all part of the plan to force a move.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 30, 2020 8:13:28 GMT
These developments are very worrying. If true, it appears our management team are nonchalantly dealing with losing our best striker in 10 years? This a huge risk. It could be a long time to recover if jch is is not suitably replaced, because i think good management is finding a replacement before we release the star.. The only logical conclusion is BG intends playing a style that doesn't include a big, powerful up front centre forward good in the air and can take a pen.....which in this division is a huger risk. Imo. To be fair, he'd be an idiot to say, 'I'm really desperate to replace JCH and I've got a million quid burning a hole in my pocket.'
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Post by madgas on Aug 30, 2020 8:19:05 GMT
Interesting the reports after yesterday's friendly with Coventry suggest JCH looked poor and heavy legged, it seems he did return to pre-season unfit. Although that could have been all part of the plan to force a move. I just don't think hes ever looked fit. Hes a big lad- lots of fast twitch fibre. However- it is a noose around his neck. Knock in 1 every 2 as he did for us and people dont talk about him being heavy. They say it looks like he has a knock. Players of a "thicker" build always suffer this. See Barrett. I dont think hes particularly unfit. (A smidge perhaps) but play too many champagne passes and hes a lardarse.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 30, 2020 8:24:44 GMT
Interesting the reports after yesterday's friendly with Coventry suggest JCH looked poor and heavy legged, it seems he did return to pre-season unfit. Although that could have been all part of the plan to force a move. I just don't think hes ever looked fit. Hes a big lad- lots of fast twitch fibre. However- it is a noose around his neck. Knock in 1 every 2 as he did for us and people dont talk about him being heavy. They say it looks like he has a knock. Players of a "thicker" build always suffer this. See Barrett. I dont think hes particularly unfit. (A smidge perhaps) but play too many champagne passes and hes a lardarse. Everytime JCH seemed to get fit, he would get injured. Probably why he stopped pushing himself.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 30, 2020 8:33:33 GMT
These developments are very worrying. If true, it appears our management team are nonchalantly dealing with losing our best striker in 10 years? This a huge risk. It could be a long time to recover if jch is is not suitably replaced, because i think good management is finding a replacement before we release the star.. The only logical conclusion is BG intends playing a style that doesn't include a big, powerful up front centre forward good in the air and can take a pen.....which in this division is a huger risk. Imo. To be fair, he'd be an idiot to say, 'I'm really desperate to replace JCH and I've got a million quid burning a hole in my pocket.' Agree, but I don't see it as that binary. Even though most clubs must suspect that what you say, is in fact the case. It hasn't inspired confidence in me that BG has handled this with any form of control. I'm disappointed of the timing. If Peterborough go about their business by signing JCH to replace a probably exiting Toney....why couldn't we sign an X to replace a probably exiting JCH? Now everyone knows we're £1m up so are naturally going to inflate an over inflated price because they know we're desperate. If we replace at all. I suspect another loan striker at most and that's sooooooo worked over the last few seasons (?).
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Post by Jomo on Aug 30, 2020 8:54:04 GMT
To be fair, he'd be an idiot to say, 'I'm really desperate to replace JCH and I've got a million quid burning a hole in my pocket.' Agree, but I don't see it as that binary. Even though most clubs must suspect that what you say, is in fact the case. It hasn't inspired confidence in me that BG has handled this with any form of control. I'm disappointed of the timing. If Peterborough go about their business by signing JCH to replace a probably exiting Toney....why couldn't we sign an X to replace a probably exiting JCH? Now everyone knows we're £1m up so are naturally going to inflate an over inflated price because they know we're desperate. If we replace at all. I suspect another loan striker at most and that's sooooooo worked over the last few seasons (?). He indicated in his interview with the BristolPost the other day that he would assess the squad before considering a replacement. Maybe this was his way of managing the apparent look of desperation. I personally don't think we do need to be that desperate to be honest. A replacement sooner or later will be needed, but Ayunga would have been the man to come in for JCH if he got an injury for example, so he can deputise in the short term.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 30, 2020 9:02:49 GMT
I don’t believe for a second that we won’t be replacing JCH, if not with a like-for-like then at least with a more suitable attacking option for BG’s style.
There’s no benefit whatsoever in BG coming out and revealing to the press how desperate we are to sign a new striker. We gain nothing from showing our hand like that.
Personally wouldn’t have any issue with Ayunga getting a few starts if we had to wait towards the end of the window for a JCH replacement either. There’s a player in there. Lot of rough edges that need polishing atm but tonnes of potential IMO.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Aug 30, 2020 9:09:51 GMT
I don’t believe for a second that we won’t be replacing JCH, if not with a like-for-like then at least with a more suitable attacking option for BG’s style. There’s no benefit whatsoever in BG coming out and revealing to the press how desperate we are to sign a new striker. We gain nothing from showing our hand like that. Agreed. Also due to COVID and squads slimming down, this is one of the rare windows where the clubs hold all the cards, not the players and the agents. Plenty of free agents still who must be getting quite touchy that the start of the season is round the corner and their agent hasn’t found them a new club yet (D Cole, Hiwula, Pitman etc). I think the club are just holding their nerve and waiting for a decent option to crack.
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Post by oldgas on Aug 30, 2020 9:12:01 GMT
Do you know who any of the player's are?? Not really - just that BG apparently knows exactly what he wants and I sense any further addition will have pace and quick feet. We have our big target man Already it would seem. From your earlier post you said BG knew JCH was going these past 6 weeks and planning had been going on since then. I think you have a good idea who we are looking at from your comments about wages etc but don’t want to be specific. Which no-one should criticise you for.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 30, 2020 9:13:04 GMT
To not replace JCH will ruin all the good work done by BG in the summer. There are just very few goals in this squad at the moment and to go into a campaign with no goalscorer and no real heading ability up front is a path to disaster. There will always be games where your planned tip tap football is not working and your JCH like player is needed which is why we need two more players preferably BEFORE next weekend. I would very much like to see Stephen Humphries from Southend and Hiwula but will be very surprised if we pay a transfer fee so probably Humphries is a non starter.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 30, 2020 10:02:56 GMT
To not replace JCH will ruin all the good work done by BG in the summer. There are just very few goals in this squad at the moment and to go into a campaign with no goalscorer and no real heading ability up front is a path to disaster. There will always be games where your planned tip tap football is not working and your JCH like player is needed which is why we need two more players preferably BEFORE next weekend. I would very much like to see Stephen Humphries from Southend and Hiwula but will be very surprised if we pay a transfer fee so probably Humphries is a non starter. Why would you be surprised if we paid a transfer fee, it's not as if Wael's given the impression all summer that he's counting every penny, he's even found some money to tarmac the area behind the Thatcher's End bar! Whether BG actually signs a striker or two is a different matter, although i agree if he doesn't all his, and the club's, fantastic efforts over the summer could come undone as that's 3 strikers with league experience gone, JCH, Nichols & Reilly to be replaced with just a National League South striker.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 30, 2020 10:24:47 GMT
I see Pirate has mentioned Nugent is being considered by Northampton. Someone like him I’d love here, experience and could nurture our young lads over the season. I don’t see the point In spending big when Garner has identified Daly and Ayunga as long term players to develop. Just need an older head to guide them through this campaign. I have hope in Walker too.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2020 10:26:38 GMT
I see Pirate has mentioned Nugent is being considered by Northampton. Someone like him I’d love here, experience and could nurture our young lads over the season. I don’t see the point In spending big when Garner has identified Daly and Ayunga as long term players to develop. Just need an older head to guide them through this campaign. I have hope in Walker too. Absolutely zero chance of us signing Nugent or anyone like him.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 30, 2020 10:35:24 GMT
To not replace JCH will ruin all the good work done by BG in the summer. There are just very few goals in this squad at the moment and to go into a campaign with no goalscorer and no real heading ability up front is a path to disaster. There will always be games where your planned tip tap football is not working and your JCH like player is needed which is why we need two more players preferably BEFORE next weekend. I would very much like to see Stephen Humphries from Southend and Hiwula but will be very surprised if we pay a transfer fee so probably Humphries is a non starter. Why would you be surprised if we paid a transfer fee, it's not as if Wael's given the impression all summer that he's counting every penny, he's even found some money to tarmac the area behind the Thatcher's End bar!  Whether BG actually signs a striker or two is a different matter, although i agree if he doesn't all his, and the club's, fantastic efforts over the summer could come undone as that's 3 strikers with league experience gone, JCH, Nichols & Reilly to be replaced with just a National League South striker.  Don’t expect to make a habit of this, but agree with Topz on this one!
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Post by james246 on Aug 30, 2020 10:37:21 GMT
Hiwula was on allegedly 5.2 k a week at cov if you believe these twitter transfer sites, and he has been unable to get any takers due to his wage demands, didn't someone say he had visited the new training ground or did I dream that? From Ben's interview the striker will not be a JCH type more a number 10 Bodin/ snake type I would guess. . Sorry mate, where's the interview you mention? I missed it and wouldn't mind a listen www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-boss-ben-garner-4468172
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 30, 2020 11:03:03 GMT
These developments are very worrying. If true, it appears our management team are nonchalantly dealing with losing our best striker in 10 years? This a huge risk. It could be a long time to recover if jch is is not suitably replaced, because i think good management is finding a replacement before we release the star.. The only logical conclusion is BG intends playing a style that doesn't include a big, powerful up front centre forward good in the air and can take a pen.....which in this division is a huger risk. Imo. IMO that is a very risky strategy, if it pays off fine; however, it is unlikely to get you many points, only the sack before Christmas. Lets hope a circa 6'2" goal machine is heading to the MEM in the next 72 hours; money in the bank is unlikely to buy you promotion.
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 30, 2020 12:12:50 GMT
Spot the Dinosaur posters.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 30, 2020 13:14:32 GMT
I see Pirate has mentioned Nugent is being considered by Northampton. Someone like him I’d love here, experience and could nurture our young lads over the season. I don’t see the point In spending big when Garner has identified Daly and Ayunga as long term players to develop. Just need an older head to guide them through this campaign. I have hope in Walker too. Absolutely zero chance of us signing Nugent or anyone like him. Why not? Are we less of an attraction than Northampton?
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2020 15:04:28 GMT
Absolutely zero chance of us signing Nugent or anyone like him. Why not? Are we less of an attraction than Northampton? Goes completely against the type of player we’re currently signing. I don’t think the club is interested in recruiting anyone the wrong side of 30 at the moment.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 30, 2020 15:15:27 GMT
Why not? Are we less of an attraction than Northampton? Goes completely against the type of player we’re currently signing. I don’t think the club is interested in recruiting anyone the wrong side of 30 at the moment. Fair point. And probably a good move But don’t you think a wise head would work, as long as the wages were reasonable? We have Ayunga, Daly, Walker and Philips on the books. All young and hungry but would benefit from someone like Nugent?
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