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Post by lavalamp on Sept 23, 2020 17:33:58 GMT
Possession stats for competitive games under BG
Wimbledon (H) 59% Fleetwood (A) 43% MK Dons (A) 39% Coventry (H) 43% Doncaster (H) 35% Coventry (A) 41% Rotherham (A) 40% Fleetwood (H) 40% Bolton (A) 47% Coventry (H) 43% Wycombe (A) 55% Tranmere (A) 51% Blackpool (H) 58% Sunderland (A) 38% Shrewsbury (H) 47% Southend (A) 55% Sunderland (H) 38% Ipswich (A) 48% Sunderland (A) 28% Ipswich (H) 45%
Average - Home 45% and Away 44%
So we have bossed the ball in 5 of his games in charge one of which was against Blackpool who only had 10 men for much of the game.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 23, 2020 17:57:23 GMT
Possession stats for competitive games under BG Wimbledon (H) 59% Fleetwood (A) 43% MK Dons (A) 39% Coventry (H) 43% Doncaster (H) 35% Coventry (A) 41% Rotherham (A) 40% Fleetwood (H) 40% Bolton (A) 47% Coventry (H) 43% Wycombe (A) 55% Tranmere (A) 51% Blackpool (H) 58% Sunderland (A) 38% Shrewsbury (H) 47% Southend (A) 55% Sunderland (H) 38% Ipswich (A) 48% Sunderland (A) 28% Ipswich (H) 45% Average - Home 45% and Away 44% So we have bossed the ball in 5 of his games in charge one of which was against Blackpool who only had 10 men for much of the game. Very alarming stats. Like I've said a few times, I'm not giving up on BG yet, but we have to see big improvements in performance levels in the next few games, regardless of results. It's the results coupled with poor displays that is the most worrying.
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 23, 2020 18:01:40 GMT
If you look at those figures it looks like the stats are getting worse not better.
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Post by toddy1953 on Sept 23, 2020 18:50:58 GMT
It’s where on the pitch you have possession that counts more. Unfortunately, I think our average possession in the opponent’s half, would read a lot worse - no stats to back it up, just a gut feeling from the games I have seen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 7:26:46 GMT
At least in the hoof ball stats we are well down the table in 21st place in league one. This is from an article in the Peterborough telegraph, sorry I don't know how to post a link. No doubt someone on here can. Interestingly our opponents on Saturday are in 22nd place so according to that we should see plenty of tippy tappy stuff this weekend and hardly any hoof ball.
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Post by Raj Gas on Sept 24, 2020 8:05:26 GMT
What concerns me is the lack of a experience at the attacking end of the pitch, I know that experience doesn't guarantee anything but I don't think our coaching team has much either that can help the young lads?
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 24, 2020 9:13:39 GMT
I know stats aren't everything and it is only two games but looking into the stats further our figures seem even worse. The need of an attacking threat is critical.
The following stats are for total shots (figures from transfer market).
Club Total shots Goals Ratio Lincoln City 17 4 23.5 % Plymouth Argyle 33 5 15.2 % AFC Wimbledon 41 6 14.6 % Doncaster Rovers30 4 13.3 % Gillingham FC 23 3 13.0 % Accrington St 23 3 13.0 % Swindon Town 24 3 12.5 % Ipswich Town 36 4 11.1 % Northampton T 38 4 10.5 % Fleetwood Town 29 3 10.3 % Charlton Ath 30 3 10.0 % Burton Albion 32 3 9.4 % Wigan Athletic 25 2 8.0 % Bristol Rovers 13 1 7.7 % Hull City 40 3 7.5 % Milton Keynes 37 2 5.4 % Sunderland AFC 63 3 4.8 % Peterborough U 48 2 4.2 % Blackpool FC 50 2 4.0 % Rochdale AFC 32 1 3.1 % Shrewsbury Town 36 1 2.8 % Oxford United 22 0 % Portsmouth FC 52 0 % Crewe Alexandra 40 0 %
We have the least shots in the league and the fact we have any ratio is that we had a penalty. Last season we were 5th worst team in the league for total shots, so not much better. Someone at the club needs to wake up and take action.
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Post by horfield on Sept 24, 2020 9:26:42 GMT
At least in the hoof ball stats we are well down the table in 21st place in league one. This is from an article in the Peterborough telegraph, sorry I don't know how to post a link. No doubt someone on here can. Interestingly our opponents on Saturday are in 22nd place so according to that we should see plenty of tippy tappy stuff this weekend and hardly any hoof ball. Certain 0-0 result then and one for the betting slip
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Post by RD on Sept 24, 2020 9:32:33 GMT
At least in the hoof ball stats we are well down the table in 21st place in league one. This is from an article in the Peterborough telegraph, sorry I don't know how to post a link. No doubt someone on here can. Interestingly our opponents on Saturday are in 22nd place so according to that we should see plenty of tippy tappy stuff this weekend and hardly any hoof ball. Certain 0-0 result then and one for the betting slip There is no way on this earth we will keep a clean sheet. Fact.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 24, 2020 10:08:28 GMT
A great set of stats from GGMI it not only affects results but also attendances in the old normal world. People said GC was lucky but he motivated JCH and signed by far the best goalie in this division so I think he made his own luck. I agree about possession stats mean little, but I would like to see possession stats for in the box only because that's where the goal is, sometimes I wonder if tacticians forget this?
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Post by wilmslowgas on Sept 24, 2020 10:25:39 GMT
Any statistic after just two games has to be treated with an enormous degree of caution.
However, if the same pattern continues over the first 10 games, say, we are in serious trouble. A team that converts less than 10% of total shots and averages approximately 7 shots per game is not going to score many goals. Unless that shortfall is remedied the inevitable prediction will be a relegation battle.
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Post by Congas on Sept 24, 2020 10:45:53 GMT
The Blackpool game from last season is a concern. Blackpool got their captain sent off in the 1st half and yet still managed to cut us open several times early in the 2nd half. Kilgour scored a worldy and JML scored a deflection before Blackpool missed a one-on-one towards the end. Garner's first win and a lucky 3 points. GC got lucky v Fleetwood and Sincs inspired us to a win over Gateshead (what happened to them?) under DC, perhaps we'll beat Donny or Northampton with another lucky goal to get this season under way. I think Gateshead had points deducted and were relegated to NL North
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 24, 2020 16:25:42 GMT
Any statistic after just two games has to be treated with an enormous degree of caution. However, if the same pattern continues over the first 10 games, say, we are in serious trouble. A team that converts less than 10% of total shots and averages approximately 7 shots per game is not going to score many goals. Unless that shortfall is remedied the inevitable prediction will be a relegation battle. The old 10 games are back again! 😂 To be honest this has continued well over 10 games (including last season). Let's see though..
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Post by james246 on Sept 24, 2020 18:47:31 GMT
I think Bens has a blind spot re the concept "Position Of Maximum Opportunity", unless he grasps it quickly logic suggests many more solid thumping will come our way
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Post by lavalamp on Sept 25, 2020 21:35:34 GMT
Total shots vs opposition since BG has been in charge.
First figure is ours, second figure is the opposition.
Wimbledon (H) 7/14 Fleetwood (A) 8/23 MK Dons (A) 7/19 Coventry (H) 8/16 Doncaster (H) 8/13 Coventry (A) 7/17 Rotherham (A) 7/16 Fleetwood (H) 6/13 Bolton (A) 13/11 Coventry (H) 14/6 Wycombe (A) 19/13 Tranmere (A) 15/15 Blackpool (H) 19/13 Sunderland (A) 4/21 Shrewsbury (H) 4/13 Southend (A) 10/14 Sunderland (H) 8/6 Ipswich (A) 7/15 Sunderland (A) 5/25 Ipswich (H) 5/12
Average shots per game: Rovers - 8.2 Opposition 14.75
Luckily we've got a good keeper.....
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Post by markczgas on Sept 25, 2020 21:55:34 GMT
Which team do you support ?
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Post by putterbishopston on Sept 26, 2020 0:51:30 GMT
Last 2 games 10 for v 37 against really brings it home, it is a stat, it is fact, if we do not up the rate we will lose far more matches than we will win, unless we are deady accurate which we are not, thank goodness we got a great stopper in goal.
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Post by pirate on Sept 26, 2020 1:28:11 GMT
Worrying stats wherever you look.
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Post by gregsy on Sept 26, 2020 5:36:10 GMT
Sir Alex Ferguson: "A great goalkeeper is worth 15 points over the course of a season."
From what's being said amongst you i've got a feeling we might find out the worth of this quote this season.....
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Post by althepirate on Sept 26, 2020 5:47:03 GMT
Worrying stats wherever you look. Yes that's true,, but for those that wanted a complete change from GC's style of play and this probably includes Wael, they are going to have to wait and have patience. I can't see where it's possible to sign virtually a complete new team then coach them to play BG's way quickly so we can't see the join and we are immediately successful this season. Yes the problem is the baggage BG has from last season and I personally think it was naive of him to immediately change a winning side. The change of style and staff is so great that I can only see it as a long term project. I hope those fans who didn't support GC will support (as best that's possible these days) BG. I think those fans have this responsibility. As the saying goes....be careful what you wish for.
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