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Post by gregsy on Sept 27, 2020 6:38:22 GMT
Proper video up now not sure that radio Bristol interview will be much good for long If anybody gets bored, can you count the amount of times BG says the word "decisions" in this interview. Must be some sort of record there somewhere. I'm bored and I counted 17 decision(s) although my concentration started to drop after he peaked at the 2 minute mark.... I make that 1 decision every 19.05 seconds....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 6:42:11 GMT
it must be difficult to know what to say after that defeat we are bristol rovers,i am a life long supporter and at 75 have been up 1 moment and down the next. that is what being a gashead is all about. give the man a chance to turn things around,its hard at the moment but i always remember a saying my dear old dad said to me,bad start good finish,then he booked a passage on the titanic and that went down! Oh long do you give BG though, he's had since last January, and he's won one game on his own as the Sunderland games starts to look more like a performance for TC not BG. I thought ten league games with his own squad to show progress. Didn't expect much from the first three but disappointed to be proved right. 7 games left to show that progress for me. What the owner does at that point only he knows. With football not being viable at this level without crowds (or in any event in reality) he might just pack up and go home. It must be tempting.
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Post by RD on Sept 27, 2020 6:48:53 GMT
I stated in January/February, Garner would go on to be the worst manager in our history. At that point he had already gone 11 games without a win, losing the majority. I was lambasted at the time, but never in a million years did I expect it to:
1) Somehow get worse 2) Him still to he here!
He seems like a pleasant guy, but he just isn't up to management. Maybe he will be one day, but he should be plying his trade in about the 12th tier at the moment. Once he's learnt how to manage (and proven he can do it), then he should be given a chance a bit higher up.
To be given that chance without any experience as high up as L1 was complete and utter madness.
BG has taken a side 4th in L1, dismantled it entirely, and put together a side that is now bottom of L1 with only 2 wins in a single calendar year. It is utterly remarkable - if a random fan from the terraces had been thrown in charge, I wholeheartedly believe they'd probably have a better record than that. It is beyond abysmal.
I don't doubt Garner is a good coach - even Little's comments suggest so. But he is not a manager. End of.
If he's that good a coach - and Wael has the money to do so - my suggestion would be to demote him to coach (and he should consider himself very lucky he isn't just sacked!!) and appoint an actual football manager to take us forward - immediately.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 27, 2020 6:54:59 GMT
Personally wanted him out on boxing day and nothing has changed.every hour he stays is another cut in the death of this club
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Post by althepirate on Sept 27, 2020 7:09:26 GMT
If we play badly and lose 90% of games I don't understand how he is a good coach. Does anyone have his record with other teams?
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Post by landrover on Sept 27, 2020 7:10:27 GMT
I stated in January/February, Garner would go on to be the worst manager in our history. At that point he had already gone 11 games without a win, losing the majority. I was lambasted at the time, but never in a million years did I expect it to: 1) Somehow get worse 2) Him still to he here! He seems like a pleasant guy, but he just isn't up to management. Maybe he will be one day, but he should be plying his trade in about the 12th tier at the moment. Once he's learnt how to manage (and proven he can do it), then he should be given a chance a bit higher up. To be given that chance without any experience as high up as L1 was complete and utter madness. BG has taken a side 4th in L1, dismantled it entirely, and put together a side that is now bottom of L1 with only 2 wins in a single calendar year. It is utterly remarkable - if a random fan from the terraces had been thrown in charge, I wholeheartedly believe they'd probably have a better record than that. It is beyond abysmal. I don't doubt Garner is a good coach - even Little's comments suggest so. But he is not a manager. End of. If he's that good a coach - and Wael has the money to do so - my suggestion would be to demote him to coach (and he should consider himself very lucky he isn't just sacked!!) and appoint an actual football manager to take us forward - immediately. No new manager would accept the ex manager as his second in command. Just as Megson did when given the WBA caretaker role, he would get him out right away. He deemed Garner to be a negative influence around the club! I said it when Garner was in the frame(along with Coughlan) that this lad had exaggerated his profile. He was your typical football student who played the game on paper or more likely his computer. Professional football management is nuanced where diploma’s and badges take second place behind understanding players and their motivations. Garner must learn from this disastrous experience that his way is far too rigid and totally unsuited to the level he’s at.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 27, 2020 7:15:37 GMT
I stated in January/February, Garner would go on to be the worst manager in our history. At that point he had already gone 11 games without a win, losing the majority. I was lambasted at the time, but never in a million years did I expect it to: 1) Somehow get worse 2) Him still to he here! He seems like a pleasant guy, but he just isn't up to management. Maybe he will be one day, but he should be plying his trade in about the 12th tier at the moment. Once he's learnt how to manage (and proven he can do it), then he should be given a chance a bit higher up. To be given that chance without any experience as high up as L1 was complete and utter madness. BG has taken a side 4th in L1, dismantled it entirely, and put together a side that is now bottom of L1 with only 2 wins in a single calendar year. It is utterly remarkable - if a random fan from the terraces had been thrown in charge, I wholeheartedly believe they'd probably have a better record than that. It is beyond abysmal. I don't doubt Garner is a good coach - even Little's comments suggest so. But he is not a manager. End of. If he's that good a coach - and Wael has the money to do so - my suggestion would be to demote him to coach (and he should consider himself very lucky he isn't just sacked!!) and appoint an actual football manager to take us forward - immediately. No new manager would accept the ex manager as his second in command. Just as Megson did when given the WBA caretaker role, he would get him out right away. He deemed Garner to be a negative influence around the club! I said it when Garner was in the frame(along with Coughlan) that this lad had exaggerated his profile. He was your typical football student who played the game on paper or more likely his computer. Professional football management is nuanced where diploma’s and badges take second place behind understanding players and their motivations. Garner must learn from this disastrous experience that his way is far too rigid and totally unsuited to the level he’s at. Good post
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Post by hollyhillgas on Sept 27, 2020 7:27:01 GMT
I stated in January/February, Garner would go on to be the worst manager in our history. At that point he had already gone 11 games without a win, losing the majority. I was lambasted at the time, but never in a million years did I expect it to: 1) Somehow get worse 2) Him still to he here! He seems like a pleasant guy, but he just isn't up to management. Maybe he will be one day, but he should be plying his trade in about the 12th tier at the moment. Once he's learnt how to manage (and proven he can do it), then he should be given a chance a bit higher up. To be given that chance without any experience as high up as L1 was complete and utter madness. BG has taken a side 4th in L1, dismantled it entirely, and put together a side that is now bottom of L1 with only 2 wins in a single calendar year. It is utterly remarkable - if a random fan from the terraces had been thrown in charge, I wholeheartedly believe they'd probably have a better record than that. It is beyond abysmal. I don't doubt Garner is a good coach - even Little's comments suggest so. But he is not a manager. End of. If he's that good a coach - and Wael has the money to do so - my suggestion would be to demote him to coach (and he should consider himself very lucky he isn't just sacked!!) and appoint an actual football manager to take us forward - immediately. No new manager would accept the ex manager as his second in command. Just as Megson did when given the WBA caretaker role, he would get him out right away. He deemed Garner to be a negative influence around the club! I said it when Garner was in the frame(along with Coughlan) that this lad had exaggerated his profile. He was your typical football student who played the game on paper or more likely his computer. Professional football management is nuanced where diploma’s and badges take second place behind understanding players and their motivations. Garner must learn from this disastrous experience that his way is far too rigid and totally unsuited to the level he’s at. His advocate, Tony Pulis would; maybe.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 27, 2020 7:29:53 GMT
No new manager would accept the ex manager as his second in command. Just as Megson did when given the WBA caretaker role, he would get him out right away. He deemed Garner to be a negative influence around the club! I said it when Garner was in the frame(along with Coughlan) that this lad had exaggerated his profile. He was your typical football student who played the game on paper or more likely his computer. Professional football management is nuanced where diploma’s and badges take second place behind understanding players and their motivations. Garner must learn from this disastrous experience that his way is far too rigid and totally unsuited to the level he’s at.  His advocate, Tony Pulis would; maybe. Irony is that this is the complete opposite of a Tony Pulis side!
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Post by androyd on Sept 27, 2020 9:09:30 GMT
I have defended BG here but to explain that result this way is embarrassing. Rank bad defending and as usual no penetration particularly from flanks. JML was never in the game and looks nothing like the loan player of last season. I said 10 games - it’s now 9 but the pressure builds every game. And I am a rose tinter!
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Post by RD on Sept 27, 2020 11:51:05 GMT
I have defended BG here but to explain that result this way is embarrassing. Rank bad defending and as usual no penetration particularly from flanks. JML was never in the game and looks nothing like the loan player of last season. I said 10 games - it’s now 9 but the pressure builds every game. And I am a rose tinter! Why is it now 9?
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Post by Jomo on Sept 27, 2020 12:02:25 GMT
I have defended BG here but to explain that result this way is embarrassing. Rank bad defending and as usual no penetration particularly from flanks. JML was never in the game and looks nothing like the loan player of last season. I said 10 games - it’s now 9 but the pressure builds every game. And I am a rose tinter! I also subscribed to the general "let's see where we are after 10 games" thing, but we've now had 3 games, so there should be 7 left. However, I'm now leaning on the side of BG leaving now, simply because there have been no signs that we'll turn it around in these first 3 games. I'm not sure where you get your "it's now 9" logic from?
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Post by LJG on Sept 27, 2020 12:03:03 GMT
I have defended BG here but to explain that result this way is embarrassing. Rank bad defending and as usual no penetration particularly from flanks. JML was never in the game and looks nothing like the loan player of last season. I said 10 games - it’s now 9 but the pressure builds every game. And I am a rose tinter! Why is it now 9? It's still 10. First three games don't count.
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Post by CrispPusher on Sept 27, 2020 12:04:14 GMT
Jesus wept, Garner made himself look a right prat 🤡
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Post by Rod1883 on Sept 27, 2020 12:59:25 GMT
About 2 and a half minutes in I made a decision - to stop listening to this excuse of a Manager
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 13:02:00 GMT
I have defended BG here but to explain that result this way is embarrassing. Rank bad defending and as usual no penetration particularly from flanks. JML was never in the game and looks nothing like the loan player of last season. I said 10 games - it’s now 9 but the pressure builds every game. And I am a rose tinter! I also subscribed to the general "let's see where we are after 10 games" thing, but we've now had 3 games, so there should be 7 left. However, I'm now leaning on the side of BG leaving now, simply because there have been no signs that we'll turn it around in these first 3 games. I'm not sure where you get your "it's now 9" logic from? It’s the lesser spotted season revisionist who some posters think doesn’t exist.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 27, 2020 13:04:19 GMT
About 2 and a half minutes in I made a decision - to stop listening to this excuse of a Manager He talked about decisions a lot but not his own decisions sadly. He’s either deluded, arrogant or both. It’s a trait of incompetents though to blame their own failure on others.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 27, 2020 13:08:12 GMT
About 2 and a half minutes in I made a decision - to stop listening to this excuse of a Manager He talked about decisions a lot but not his own decisions sadly. He’s either deluded, arrogant or both. It’s a trait of incompetents though to blame their own failure on others. .....and irresponsible. I was more angry at this than the results
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Post by neogas on Sept 27, 2020 13:11:17 GMT
The push he is talking about looks really innocuous on the highlights. I didn't even see it watching "live" The guy heading back across is about a foot taller!
The only poor decision he can point to is the 2nd yellow for Bailey Wright at Sunderland. He did nothing to stop Donny creating the overload on the right side in 2nd half. We were not good enough in both boxes. Yes, we played some good football in spells, but at no point did we play any football that was a threat to Donny.
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Post by landrover on Sept 27, 2020 13:33:19 GMT
This is my point nowadays. All teams play some nice ‘stuff’ at times. It’s a con. It’s the business ends that matter. Meanwhile I suggest Garner has a word with Harries about turning his back on the third goal. And Ehmer’s effort(lack of) in getting back into position for the fourth. We have become a pathetic professional football team with many players pretending to care.
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