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Post by bluestargas on Dec 20, 2020 21:47:49 GMT
I heard from someone who works for sky in a London office, each premiership player who takes the knee in game at kickoff receives £2000 each.every body knows money talks.
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Post by baggins on Dec 21, 2020 6:33:23 GMT
I heard from someone who works for sky in a London office, each premiership player who takes the knee in game at kickoff receives £2000 each.every body knows money talks. Not a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 8:34:16 GMT
I heard from someone who works for sky in a London office, each premiership player who takes the knee in game at kickoff receives £2000 each.every body knows money talks. Sounds like something a pathetic racist would say, thanks for sharing.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 21, 2020 14:47:58 GMT
I heard from someone who works for sky in a London office, each premiership player who takes the knee in game at kickoff receives £2000 each.every body knows money talks. Hahaha
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 15:50:01 GMT
I heard from someone who works for sky in a London office, each premiership player who takes the knee in game at kickoff receives £2000 each.every body knows money talks. Hahaha Made me laugh. You would think some would be to embarrassed to post up sh**e like that
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Post by Gassy on Dec 22, 2020 8:05:51 GMT
Interestingly there were only 400 respondents to the survey. If you do some fag packet maths by taking the average squad size as 25, that’s effectively 16 clubs out of the 92 that replied. Surely you’d expect responses in the 1000s for it to be more representative of the 4 professional leagues? Yeah they have 4,000 members so only 10% bothered to reply. Works both ways though, this was the opportunity to say no if you don’t agree with it. You can only take responses from what you’re given.
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Post by inee on Dec 23, 2020 18:56:22 GMT
It was a f**k YOU to the Millwall fans. That's why they did it And they’ll go home telling all their mates about how they stuck it to Millwall fans in the name of black lives via WhatsApp on their mobile phones, meanwhile a black person is being shot in the DR Congo in a civil war over natural resources used to build mobile phones for those in the West to use to pontificate about how much black lives matter to them. Rinse and repeat. Couldn't have put it better, this will always be something that winds me up people jump on an american trend ,which in the grand scheme of things means absolutely f**k all over here ,except make some feel as if they have done something to make the world a better place) ,lets face it what does it achieve ,so tell me how many lives have you saved by kneeling down ,oh hang on you don't take the knee you let the players on the pitch do it on your behalf ,but you feel so much better about yourselves without getting your precious clothes dirty by kneeling on a filthy piece of concrete hmmm. Then ignore nations where black people are being killed every day of the year ,ignoring other black countries where everyday people are being murdered in the name of religion. Why are they not asking the government to send back refugees who took part in killings ,rape and torture in their own countries , then seek sanctuary here because the tide has turned ,could it be that it's too much hassle for them ,so they instead say well i agree with taking the knee so therefore I'm not racist. Oh and before i get called a racist, just remember we all eat ,bleed sh** n water the same also remember that there is only one race on this earth and that's the human race ,some of us don't need to keep harping on about how if your skin in a different colour the you must be from a different race, odd when you think about it.
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Post by inee on Dec 23, 2020 19:00:11 GMT
Absolutely and that’s the difference between a message based on ending racism and one on black lives mattering, because a hell of a lot of black lives are collateral damage just to give us the things we take for granted on a daily basis. BLM message is to end racism though? Les Ferdinands statement is that he is weary and has seen gestures come and go. Fair enough. No one has come up with a viable plan to deal with racism other than gestures have they? because liberals don't care too much. If the people deemed at the bottom of the class ladder are stepping up, are the liberals going to make way. We don't see the conservative right dealing with racism (quite the opposite), don't see the liberals dealing with it. That only leaves the left wether people like it or not.So what are they doing about it ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 20:35:19 GMT
BLM message is to end racism though? Les Ferdinands statement is that he is weary and has seen gestures come and go. Fair enough. No one has come up with a viable plan to deal with racism other than gestures have they? because liberals don't care too much. If the people deemed at the bottom of the class ladder are stepping up, are the liberals going to make way. We don't see the conservative right dealing with racism (quite the opposite), don't see the liberals dealing with it. That only leaves the left wether people like it or not.So what are they doing about it ? Not being racist.
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Post by oldsage on Jun 6, 2021 8:35:52 GMT
In light of the recent England International publicity and similar stories from some league matches I wish to add my own feelings. sorry I am not racist, never considered myself as one with many ethnic friends. I object strongly to the action and term, "taking the Knee". Please question the reasoning how this came about. Before the death of an American citizen who died as a result of a Police Officer now charged with his murder no one took the knee at Football Matches. Immediately after this incident Americans took this action to portray the action of his death. The action is then used to bring about Black lives mattered. Of course Black lives matters, they do. But the whole issue has lost its meaning. So my opinion is the action of taking the knee is purely to demonstrate how or why this person died. For my first visit to the Mem I will be silent and condem this action. If the P.A announcer was to ask for a round of applause for Black lives matter I will be the first one to applaud. This opinion will clearly be controversial and may not make the forum but i feel that this taking of the knee should be replaced. It's obvious that our fans will react like most other matches we are now seeing with supporters allowed in.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 6, 2021 8:45:25 GMT
I'm not racist, I have ethnic friends.....
Cool story bro.
Please explain why or how someone taking a knee makes the slightest difference to your life to the point where it upsets you so much.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jun 6, 2021 8:53:22 GMT
People with race issues always jump to ‘but I’ve got a black friend’
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Post by Jomo on Jun 6, 2021 8:58:00 GMT
I'm with Hugo on this. How on earth can a simple gesture of solidarity be construed as something offensive or worthy of condemnation? If you don't necessarily agree with it or feel it is constructive then fine that's your opinion, but it's not something that causes any harm is it? At least it promotes discussion rather than simply brushing these issues under the rug.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jun 6, 2021 9:01:11 GMT
Mmm, sure to provoke many a passionate viewpoint, where as the effectiveness of the act(taking the knee) may be debateable the cause is certainly not, this may well be one of those threads which it would be wise to consider very carefully whether to contribute and though a part of me says its best to stay away from here i am posting this! On the one hand it seems the action has lost its ability to have any significance but on the other i feel that if those who are on the receiving end of such vile abuse think it is worth doing then who am i to disagree?
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Post by oldsage on Jun 6, 2021 9:04:58 GMT
Ok. I am a racist if that helps. If that's what you want. Jesus, how some people try hard to stop a sensible debate. I will say anything to have a united support for our first home game. Answer why some teams are no longer taking the knee. Crystal Palace being one.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2021 9:07:06 GMT
I'm not racist, I have ethnic friends..... Cool story bro. Please explain why or how someone taking a knee makes the slightest difference to your life to the point where it upsets you so much. Exactly Would love to read the explanation you have asked for Hugo.
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Post by bluegas on Jun 6, 2021 9:07:11 GMT
Because it has become a pious platitude. We go through the motions and then brush it under the carpet. And yes, I have a Black friend who has related his experiences to me, and yes, I have read and watched much about the rise of Nazism.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jun 6, 2021 9:09:02 GMT
There is no comment a white person (like myself) can make that will come out good. Respect the decision, it actually goes back a lot further than George Floyds killing, his killing is the symbol of centuries of abuse of a race of people. In an ideal world we would all be up in arms just that a human can be treated that way by those that are there to protect. Accept the decision quietly and with dignity.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2021 9:10:55 GMT
Ok. I am a racist if that helps. If that's what you want. Jesus, how some people try hard to stop a sensible debate. I will say anything to have a united support for our first home game. Answer why some teams are no longer taking the knee. Crystal Palace being one. Nobody is doing that, stopping a sensible debate. Its that many of us do not see it as an issue, it makes no difference to me personally, for example. So, the question to you from Hugo was Genuine question.
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Post by bluegas on Jun 6, 2021 9:12:20 GMT
I'm not racist, I have ethnic friends..... Cool story bro. Please explain why or how someone taking a knee makes the slightest difference to your life to the point where it upsets you so much. You've said it - it makes not the slightest difference. It has become a hollow gesture.
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