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Post by yattongas on Mar 10, 2024 23:17:59 GMT
Thinking about this , I’m sure when we sign our deal with India it’s going to be bigly better than those pesky Europeans. Make GB great again ! 🇬🇧
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 13, 2024 10:17:32 GMT
The Australian free trade deal isn't quite equitable (yet?). "Pressure is mounting on UK government to address the much-maligned Australian free-trade deal after a shipment of British beef was blocked by Australian border controls. An unnamed exporter was told its British beef jerky could not be shipped to Australia because the UK government had not yet requested access. This is according to the British Meat Processors Association (BMPA), which told Farmers Weekly there is no “reciprocal agreement” for UK beef, meaning other countries – such as South Africa – would supply the product instead. Pressure is now falling on the government to not make a repeat mistake of the inequitable trade deal. In a letter to Kemi Badenoch, secretary of state for the department of business and trade, the BMPA has called for fast action. “UK farmers would be deeply concerned if it emerged that we are prepared to import Australian meat and meat products without restriction, but are unable to export to that market despite having a free-trade agreement,” wrote the BMPA’s chief executive Nick Allen." www.fwi.co.uk/business/pressure-mounts-on-uk-government-as-aussies-block-british-beef
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Post by supergas on Mar 13, 2024 11:50:05 GMT
The Australian free trade deal isn't quite equitable (yet?). "Pressure is mounting on UK government to address the much-maligned Australian free-trade deal after a shipment of British beef was blocked by Australian border controls. An unnamed exporter was told its British beef jerky could not be shipped to Australia because the UK government had not yet requested access. This is according to the British Meat Processors Association (BMPA), which told Farmers Weekly there is no “reciprocal agreement” for UK beef, meaning other countries – such as South Africa – would supply the product instead. Pressure is now falling on the government to not make a repeat mistake of the inequitable trade deal. In a letter to Kemi Badenoch, secretary of state for the department of business and trade, the BMPA has called for fast action. “UK farmers would be deeply concerned if it emerged that we are prepared to import Australian meat and meat products without restriction, but are unable to export to that market despite having a free-trade agreement,” wrote the BMPA’s chief executive Nick Allen." www.fwi.co.uk/business/pressure-mounts-on-uk-government-as-aussies-block-british-beefCivil service not paying attention....maybe too many work from home days....
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 13, 2024 12:00:22 GMT
The Australian free trade deal isn't quite equitable (yet?). "Pressure is mounting on UK government to address the much-maligned Australian free-trade deal after a shipment of British beef was blocked by Australian border controls. An unnamed exporter was told its British beef jerky could not be shipped to Australia because the UK government had not yet requested access. This is according to the British Meat Processors Association (BMPA), which told Farmers Weekly there is no “reciprocal agreement” for UK beef, meaning other countries – such as South Africa – would supply the product instead. Pressure is now falling on the government to not make a repeat mistake of the inequitable trade deal. In a letter to Kemi Badenoch, secretary of state for the department of business and trade, the BMPA has called for fast action. “UK farmers would be deeply concerned if it emerged that we are prepared to import Australian meat and meat products without restriction, but are unable to export to that market despite having a free-trade agreement,” wrote the BMPA’s chief executive Nick Allen." www.fwi.co.uk/business/pressure-mounts-on-uk-government-as-aussies-block-british-beefCivil service not paying attention....maybe too many work from home days.... I work from home.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 13, 2024 12:11:09 GMT
Civil service not paying attention....maybe too many work from home days.... I work from home. So does my wife and quite frankly I find it bloody insulting that her work ethics could be questioned for doing so .
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 13, 2024 12:19:28 GMT
So does my wife and quite frankly I find it bloody insulting that her work ethics could be questioned for doing so . I totally agree. In fact I'm far more efficient working from home as I don't get distracted by the noise and interruptions in the office. It's a cheap shot SG doesn't need to make.
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Post by oldie on Mar 13, 2024 21:28:40 GMT
So does my wife and quite frankly I find it bloody insulting that her work ethics could be questioned for doing so . I don't work anywhere. Never have 😂😂😂
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Post by supergas on Mar 14, 2024 8:12:55 GMT
So does my wife and quite frankly I find it bloody insulting that her work ethics could be questioned for doing so . I totally agree. In fact I'm far more efficient working from home as I don't get distracted by the noise and interruptions in the office. It's a cheap shot SG doesn't need to make. I wasn't saying all people working from home slack off, in fact I know a few and they work harder. What I was suggesting (and there is evidence to back it up) is that Whitehall civil servants across most departments (including the Department for Business and Trade and the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office) are inefficient a lot of the time even when they are in the office - but when working from home they themselves calculate productivity is down 8.5%. Private businesses can make their own decisions on work/life balance for employees, but this is taxpayer funded employees who are demanding to be paid more for doing less...
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Post by yattongas on Mar 14, 2024 8:26:08 GMT
I totally agree. In fact I'm far more efficient working from home as I don't get distracted by the noise and interruptions in the office. It's a cheap shot SG doesn't need to make. I wasn't saying all people working from home slack off, in fact I know a few and they work harder. What I was suggesting (and there is evidence to back it up) is that Whitehall civil servants across most departments (including the Department for Business and Trade and the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office) are inefficient a lot of the time even when they are in the office - but when working from home they themselves calculate productivity is down 8.5%. Private businesses can make their own decisions on work/life balance for employees, but this is taxpayer funded employees who are demanding to be paid more for doing less... My wife is a civil servant working for Defra. Where is this evidence , would be interested to read it ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 14, 2024 8:54:15 GMT
I wasn't saying all people working from home slack off, in fact I know a few and they work harder. What I was suggesting (and there is evidence to back it up) is that Whitehall civil servants across most departments (including the Department for Business and Trade and the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office) are inefficient a lot of the time even when they are in the office - but when working from home they themselves calculate productivity is down 8.5%. Private businesses can make their own decisions on work/life balance for employees, but this is taxpayer funded employees who are demanding to be paid more for doing less... My wife is a civil servant working for Defra. Where is this evidence , would be interested to read it ? "Government minister Mims Davies said research conducted “across the civil service” showed remote working had no impact on “overall productivity”. While fellow minister Gareth Davies said: “Occupancy rate and hybrid working does not affect the department’s ability to deliver high-quality work.” The PCS union, which represents civil servants, called on Johnson and Rees-Mogg to apologise for their “slurs” against civil servants." www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/work-from-home-boris-johnson-jacob-reesmogg-b2361802.html"A slightly smaller proportion (79.9%) agree that their home environment enables them to work productively, that being slightly lower than the private sector, where 82.9% say their home environment enables productive work." www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/60953ad9e90e07357baa82bf/Home_working_and_the_UK_Civil_Service.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjE5JGir_OEAxWgVEEAHY-4C90QFnoECBIQBg&usg=AOvVaw2fXA5GXWgs861C8GdWEdjZ
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Post by yattongas on Mar 14, 2024 9:17:48 GMT
My wife tells me that Defra ( and other departments) aren’t set up to cope with everyone going back into work. Not enough office space to cope as quite a lot of the estate has been sold off , especially in London. Hot desking is a thing !? Lots of people were employed through the pandemic but are now being asked to travel long distances in many cases to get to work. Less traffic on the roads , less stress from the commute, saving money on office space ….. sounds like a good thing from my perspective.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 14, 2024 9:51:57 GMT
My wife tells me that Defra ( and other departments) aren’t set up to cope with everyone going back into work. Not enough office space to cope as quite a lot of the estate has been sold off , especially in London. Hot desking is a thing !? Lots of people were employed through the pandemic but are now being asked to travel long distances in many cases to get to work. Less traffic on the roads , less stress from the commute, saving money on office space ….. sounds like a good thing from my perspective. Same in my place and my wife's office, not enough desks if everyone was in at the same time. Hybrid working is great imo provided it's done professionally. Some will take the proverbial but that's going to happen anyway and a good manager knows. Work from home Mondays and Fridays, office Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, or TWaTs. 😁
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Post by supergas on Mar 15, 2024 10:26:33 GMT
My wife tells me that Defra ( and other departments) aren’t set up to cope with everyone going back into work. Not enough office space to cope as quite a lot of the estate has been sold off , especially in London. Hot desking is a thing !? Lots of people were employed through the pandemic but are now being asked to travel long distances in many cases to get to work. Less traffic on the roads , less stress from the commute, saving money on office space ….. sounds like a good thing from my perspective. I will find and link to the ONS data for work from home productivity - the only reason I mentioned it was because it was produced by civil servants and specifically about civil servant productivity... There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. Normally under Conservative governments the number reduces but Covid did change the dynamics somewhat and a correction is unlikely before the election (short time-frame) or post election (Labour like a large civil service). Whilst we are discussing the topic - and apologies that we are now directly discussing family and friends of some people commenting in this thread - but some of their union demands are a bit extreme and potentially they need reminding they are public servants. A "...significant shortening of the working week with no loss of pay..." sounds like something every union member would like but every taxpayer would raise their eyebrows at, an increase in London weighting (whilst simultaneously rejecting the suggestion government departments relocate outside of London) and an increase in paid annual leave - all whilst they don't want to come into the office, publicly disagree with (and sometimes work against) the government polices they are paid to implement, have a higher sick-leave rate than most private businesses and moan because they don't want to turn on their cameras in zoom meetings. (incidentally in terms of office capacity, DEFRA was only at 87% in the first week of March, and 18/19 major government departments were below 90% capacity so plenty of space to get more people back into the office more of the time)
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Post by yattongas on Mar 15, 2024 10:39:28 GMT
My wife tells me that Defra ( and other departments) aren’t set up to cope with everyone going back into work. Not enough office space to cope as quite a lot of the estate has been sold off , especially in London. Hot desking is a thing !? Lots of people were employed through the pandemic but are now being asked to travel long distances in many cases to get to work. Less traffic on the roads , less stress from the commute, saving money on office space ….. sounds like a good thing from my perspective. I will find and link to the ONS data for work from home productivity - the only reason I mentioned it was because it was produced by civil servants and specifically about civil servant productivity... There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. Normally under Conservative governments the number reduces but Covid did change the dynamics somewhat and a correction is unlikely before the election (short time-frame) or post election (Labour like a large civil service). Whilst we are discussing the topic - and apologies that we are now directly discussing family and friends of some people commenting in this thread - but some of their union demands are a bit extreme and potentially they need reminding they are public servants. A "...significant shortening of the working week with no loss of pay..." sounds like something every union member would like but every taxpayer would raise their eyebrows at, an increase in London weighting (whilst simultaneously rejecting the suggestion government departments relocate outside of London) and an increase in paid annual leave - all whilst they don't want to come into the office, publicly disagree with (and sometimes work against) the government polices they are paid to implement, have a higher sick-leave rate than most private businesses and moan because they don't want to turn on their cameras in zoom meetings. (incidentally in terms of office capacity, DEFRA was only at 87% in the first week of March, and 18/19 major government departments were below 90% capacity so plenty of space to get more people back into the office more of the time) Funny you should mention this on the Brexit wins thread…. ‘There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. ‘ 100k extra employed to deal with the Brexit sh** show 🙄
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Post by supergas on Mar 15, 2024 10:53:42 GMT
I will find and link to the ONS data for work from home productivity - the only reason I mentioned it was because it was produced by civil servants and specifically about civil servant productivity... There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. Normally under Conservative governments the number reduces but Covid did change the dynamics somewhat and a correction is unlikely before the election (short time-frame) or post election (Labour like a large civil service). Whilst we are discussing the topic - and apologies that we are now directly discussing family and friends of some people commenting in this thread - but some of their union demands are a bit extreme and potentially they need reminding they are public servants. A "...significant shortening of the working week with no loss of pay..." sounds like something every union member would like but every taxpayer would raise their eyebrows at, an increase in London weighting (whilst simultaneously rejecting the suggestion government departments relocate outside of London) and an increase in paid annual leave - all whilst they don't want to come into the office, publicly disagree with (and sometimes work against) the government polices they are paid to implement, have a higher sick-leave rate than most private businesses and moan because they don't want to turn on their cameras in zoom meetings. (incidentally in terms of office capacity, DEFRA was only at 87% in the first week of March, and 18/19 major government departments were below 90% capacity so plenty of space to get more people back into the office more of the time) Funny you should mention this on the Brexit wins thread…. ‘There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. ‘ 100k extra employed to deal with the Brexit sh** show 🙄 ...not sure of the breakdown, but Brexit and Covid were the two reasons more civil servants were hired, but surely on fixed-term contracts...? Regardless of why departments felt they needed to hire more people, the fact that most of those currently employed want to work less for more pay suggests there is some slack in the system...
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Post by aghast on Mar 15, 2024 22:45:55 GMT
I will find and link to the ONS data for work from home productivity - the only reason I mentioned it was because it was produced by civil servants and specifically about civil servant productivity... There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. Normally under Conservative governments the number reduces but Covid did change the dynamics somewhat and a correction is unlikely before the election (short time-frame) or post election (Labour like a large civil service). Whilst we are discussing the topic - and apologies that we are now directly discussing family and friends of some people commenting in this thread - but some of their union demands are a bit extreme and potentially they need reminding they are public servants. A "...significant shortening of the working week with no loss of pay..." sounds like something every union member would like but every taxpayer would raise their eyebrows at, an increase in London weighting (whilst simultaneously rejecting the suggestion government departments relocate outside of London) and an increase in paid annual leave - all whilst they don't want to come into the office, publicly disagree with (and sometimes work against) the government polices they are paid to implement, have a higher sick-leave rate than most private businesses and moan because they don't want to turn on their cameras in zoom meetings. (incidentally in terms of office capacity, DEFRA was only at 87% in the first week of March, and 18/19 major government departments were below 90% capacity so plenty of space to get more people back into the office more of the time) Funny you should mention this on the Brexit wins thread…. ‘There are obviously way too many civil servants on the payroll. ‘ 100k extra employed to deal with the Brexit sh** show 🙄 That would explain why Brexit has been such a colossal waste of time. Instead of negotiating those groundbreaking trade deals with Australia and the tiger economies, they were at home watching Homes Under The Hammer. Boris and Nigel are hapless victims of daytime tv.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 17, 2024 8:08:22 GMT
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Post by gashead79 on Mar 17, 2024 9:04:10 GMT
This trend has been building since late 90s. Brexit gets a mention in this article and its no secret that it has caused some issues for UK business, so there's some validity. Investors want returns. There are better places to put money for yield and there has been many acquisitions of UK companies over the last 30 years too. Interestingly the other countries mentioned-Austria, Germany, Norway and Holland, would not have been on top of your list if you were to list markets with outflows.. China and the US, plus some of the developing nations, is where equity investors have been putting the money. That's been happening for decades, especially since China started booming in 2000s.
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 17, 2024 9:11:00 GMT
This trend has been building since late 90s. Brexit gets a mention in this article and its no secret that it has caused some issues for UK business, so there's some validity. Investors want returns. There are better places to put money for yield and there has been many acquisitions of UK companies over the last 30 years too. Interestingly the other countries mentioned-Austria, Germany, Norway and Holland, would not have been on top of your list if you were to list markets with outflows.. China and the US, plus some of the developing nations, is where equity investors have been putting the money. That's been happening for decades, especially since China started booming in 2000s. Correct
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Post by yattongas on Mar 17, 2024 9:21:10 GMT
This trend has been building since late 90s. Brexit gets a mention in this article and its no secret that it has caused some issues for UK business, so there's some validity. Investors want returns. There are better places to put money for yield and there has been many acquisitions of UK companies over the last 30 years too. Interestingly the other countries mentioned-Austria, Germany, Norway and Holland, would not have been on top of your list if you were to list markets with outflows.. China and the US, plus some of the developing nations, is where equity investors have been putting the money. That's been happening for decades, especially since China started booming in 2000s. Correct Glad you both agree. Brexit made things worse.
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