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Post by aghast on Apr 11, 2024 21:04:31 GMT
Standards of service in hospitality have plummeted since our European cousins fled these shores for somewhere more welcoming.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 12, 2024 12:59:15 GMT
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Post by francegas on Apr 17, 2024 8:16:29 GMT
Standards of service in hospitality have plummeted since our European cousins fled these shores for somewhere more welcoming. Are you able to break down the number of EU Citizens working in hospitality who fled the UK due to brexit and the number who fled due to the pandemic ? Unless I'm missing something but didn't those EU workers have every right to remain in the UK at the time of brexit providing they were legally resident in the UK. If they fled because they were not legally resident and not paying UK tax then who is to blame? Had you said that brexit has made it difficult (although not impossible) for EU citizens to now come to the UK and work in the hospitality industry I would totally agree with you. In 2020 nearly 10,000 pubs bars and restaurants closed across the UK at the time of the pandemic. In 2023 (post pandemic) 509 pubs closed which equates to over 6000 job losses. Imagine the job losses in 2020. Those EU workers had to either find alternative employment in the industry they knew (pretty unlikely) or return to their home country.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 17, 2024 9:19:29 GMT
Standards of service in hospitality have plummeted since our European cousins fled these shores for somewhere more welcoming. Are you able to break down the number of EU Citizens working in hospitality who fled the UK due to brexit and the number who fled due to the pandemic ? Unless I'm missing something but didn't those EU workers have every right to remain in the UK at the time of brexit providing they were legally resident in the UK. If they fled because they were not legally resident and not paying UK tax then who is to blame? Had you said that brexit has made it difficult (although not impossible) for EU citizens to now come to the UK and work in the hospitality industry I would totally agree with you. In 2020 nearly 10,000 pubs bars and restaurants closed across the UK at the time of the pandemic. In 2023 (post pandemic) 509 pubs closed which equates to over 6000 job losses. Imagine the job losses in 2020. Those EU workers had to either find alternative employment in the industry they knew (pretty unlikely) or return to their home country. As I understand it they left to return back to their home country during the pandemic but that the rules now prevent them returning.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 18, 2024 0:09:31 GMT
Now, I argued this exact issue with Nobby at the time. No problem he said. 🤫 "“Pharmacists … are spending hours a day hunting down stock, yet too often have to turn patients away. It’s distressing when pharmacy teams find themselves unable to provide a prompt medicines services, through no fault of their own.” Global manufacturing problems linked to Covid, inflation, the war in Ukraine and global instability have helped cause the UK’s unprecedented inability to ensure patients can access drugs. But Britain’s departure from the EU in 2020 has significantly aggravated the problem, laid bare the “fragility” of the country’s medicines supply networks and could lead to the situation worsening, the report said." www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2024/apr/18/drug-shortages-normal-in-uk-made-worse-by-brexit-report-warns
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2024 5:25:28 GMT
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Post by oldie on Apr 18, 2024 7:19:15 GMT
Yeah But we got our sovereignty back....didn't we?
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Post by oldie on Apr 18, 2024 7:20:44 GMT
Now, I argued this exact issue with Nobby at the time. No problem he said. 🤫 "“Pharmacists … are spending hours a day hunting down stock, yet too often have to turn patients away. It’s distressing when pharmacy teams find themselves unable to provide a prompt medicines services, through no fault of their own.” Global manufacturing problems linked to Covid, inflation, the war in Ukraine and global instability have helped cause the UK’s unprecedented inability to ensure patients can access drugs. But Britain’s departure from the EU in 2020 has significantly aggravated the problem, laid bare the “fragility” of the country’s medicines supply networks and could lead to the situation worsening, the report said." www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2024/apr/18/drug-shortages-normal-in-uk-made-worse-by-brexit-report-warnsEric, one of the members of this forum labelled me a disgrace and a fear monger for daring to raise this.
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Post by francegas on Apr 18, 2024 8:09:26 GMT
The headline is misleading. I take it you read the whole article. So since it's launch in 2013 only 177 golden visas have been issued to Brits. Mind you as you seem to despise people with money I would have thought you'd be delighted that the rich no longer get preferential treatment and will have to apply for a visa like everyone else.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2024 8:24:28 GMT
The headline is misleading. I take it you read the whole article. So since it's launch in 2013 only 177 golden visas have been issued to Brits. Mind you as you seem to despise people with money I would have thought you'd be delighted that the rich no longer get preferential treatment and will have to apply for a visa like everyone else. Why would I despise people with money ? 😂 I despise corruption, tax evaders etc You’ve always told me it’s simple for anyone to retire abroad and it’s no more difficult than before. Your favourite rag is now bemoaning the loss of golden visas. You don’t see the hypocrisy. 🙄
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Post by francegas on Apr 18, 2024 11:21:16 GMT
The headline is misleading. I take it you read the whole article. So since it's launch in 2013 only 177 golden visas have been issued to Brits. Mind you as you seem to despise people with money I would have thought you'd be delighted that the rich no longer get preferential treatment and will have to apply for a visa like everyone else. Why would I despise people with money ? 😂 I despise corruption, tax evaders etc You’ve always told me it’s simple for anyone to retire abroad and it’s no more difficult than before. Your favourite rag is now bemoaning the loss of golden visas. You don’t see the hypocrisy. 🙄 Well you weren't sympathetic towards people who had money to send their children to private Schools having to pay VAT on school fees. In respect of the artical published it's a non story. (Not everyone has to agree in all articles in a paper no more than I'm sure your beloved Guardian doesn't print everything you agree with). As I said 177 golden visas issued in 11 years. Hardly a major impact on those wishing to retire to Spain.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2024 11:24:03 GMT
Why would I despise people with money ? 😂 I despise corruption, tax evaders etc You’ve always told me it’s simple for anyone to retire abroad and it’s no more difficult than before. Your favourite rag is now bemoaning the loss of golden visas. You don’t see the hypocrisy. 🙄 Well you weren't sympathetic towards people who had money to send their children to private Schools having to pay VAT on school fees. In respect of the artical published it's a non story. (Not everyone has to agree in all articles in a paper no more than I'm sure your beloved Guardian doesn't print everything you agree with). As I said 177 golden visas issued in 11 years. Hardly a major impact on those wishing to retire to Spain. Never bought a copy of the Guardian in my life 👍
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Post by francegas on Apr 18, 2024 11:26:53 GMT
Well you weren't sympathetic towards people who had money to send their children to private Schools having to pay VAT on school fees. In respect of the artical published it's a non story. (Not everyone has to agree in all articles in a paper no more than I'm sure your beloved Guardian doesn't print everything you agree with). As I said 177 golden visas issued in 11 years. Hardly a major impact on those wishing to retire to Spain. Never bought a copy of the Guardian in my life 👍 OK you use the online version then.🙄
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2024 11:36:21 GMT
Never bought a copy of the Guardian in my life 👍 OK you use the online version then.🙄 Have a great day France ! 😃
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Post by francegas on Apr 18, 2024 11:58:23 GMT
OK you use the online version then.🙄 Have a great day France ! 😃 Cheers Yatton 🍺🍺 Although it's snowing
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 18, 2024 12:09:15 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 18, 2024 16:23:35 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2024 18:58:59 GMT
Have a great day France ! 😃 Cheers Yatton 🍺🍺 Although it's snowing I’m over in France last week of May and first week of June in the Moho. Visiting Brittany area for the first time ,Carantec for 3 days then Quimper for 4 days . Second week might head for the gulf of Morbihan or go further south if we’re chasing the sun ! Got any tips for me ? Loved your last tip to go on the great Bernard’s pass 👍
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2024 19:49:06 GMT
The UK government has told the country’s port authorities that it will not “turn on” critical health and safety checks for EU imports when post-Brexit border controls begin this month because of the risk of “significant disruption”.
In a presentation seen by the Financial Times, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) outlined a plan to avoid queues of lorries at ports, revealing that if the new border measures were implemented as planned big delays could follow.
Since announcing new border controls on plant and food products last year the government has promised it would “phase in” checks, which trade groups have warned will hurt small businesses and drive up the price of food.
However, just over a fortnight before physical inspections are set to begin, the presentation last week made clear that the new border systems will not be fully ready.
In order to get around the problem, the government said it would ensure the rate of checks was initially “set to zero for all commodity groups” — essentially switching off large parts of the risk management system, in what it called a “phased implementation approach”.
Implementation of the new border controls has been postponed five times since 2021, which has left EU exporters of animal and plant products free to send them to the UK without checks.
In its presentation, Defra admitted to port health authorities that “challenges” still remained within its systems for registering imports of food and animal products that could inadvertently trigger unmanageable levels of inspections, overwhelming ports.
“There is a potential for significant disruption on day one if all commodity codes are turned on at once,” it said.
The presentation did not make clear for how long border checks would be suspended but indicated that the systems would be “progressively turned on” for different product groups.
Business organisations have repeatedly called for the introduction of the new border to be delayed until at least October. “Any further confusion and uncertainty around the introduction of new border checks and costs is bad news for business,” said William Bain, head of trade policy at the British Chambers of Commerce.
“Business urgently needs to see crystal clear communication from Defra on its plans, and if any changes are being made then they need to know now.”
Defra made clear that its plan should not be shared with businesses, which will be charged a maximum of £145 “per consignment” for goods coming from the EU from April 30.
A Defra official also cautioned against disclosing it to the media, saying one of its main aims was to avoid negative news stories, according to a person familiar with the meeting.
Defra said the main customs system will continue to run, but only for the highest risk products, such as meat products from certain countries, and depending on how busy the port of entry is.
Bristol, for example, had only 17 risk notifications in a three-week period this year, while Dover had 12,573 over the same timeframe, so the former could have the full customs checks activated, while those in Dover would be “limited” to avoid delays.
“It is beyond frustrating that repeated warnings about the readiness of crucial infrastructure have been ignored and now in less than two weeks businesses will have to try to navigate this clearly broken system,” said Phil Pluck, head of the Cold Chain Federation, a lobby group for the perishable goods trade.
“The government must postpone full implementation until October and start working with the food logistics industry for a system that genuinely works and mitigates even more confusion, disruption, and costs,” he added.
Defra said it was confident it had the capacity to handle expected checks. “As we have always said, the goods posing the highest biosecurity risk are being prioritised as we build up to full check rates and high levels of compliance.”
It added: “Taking a pragmatic approach to introducing our new border checks minimises disruption, protects our biosecurity and benefits everyone — especially traders.”
ps I predicted this a while back 🙄
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Post by francegas on Apr 18, 2024 20:27:09 GMT
Cheers Yatton 🍺🍺 Although it's snowing I’m over in France last week of May and first week of June in the Moho. Visiting Brittany area for the first time ,Carantec for 3 days then Quimper for 4 days . Second week might head for the gulf of Morbihan or go further south if we’re chasing the sun ! Got any tips for me ? Loved your last tip to go on the great Bernard’s pass 👍 No problem, leave it with me and I'll come up with ideas for you.
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