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Post by gaslife on May 12, 2021 18:02:52 GMT
Looking at twitter and who has said and liked what- this feels like JB's decision. That's the straw for me. JB out. JB out The club needs a complete overhaul and J B is being ruthless and not keeping “legends” in situ just because as players they may have been. I liked Mansell but legendary he was literally only so for a few months. He scored a penalty which got us out of the Conference. I haven’t seen anything fantastic come through the development team. We don’t have the same club set up as Liverpool did in 70’s & 80’s where promotion from within the ranks such as Fagan etc to manager. Get over yourself and try and see the bigger picture JB is trying to build. He’ll either live by or fall on his sword. Only time will tell but give the man a chance with his own personnel. Then judge Oh dear, ‘Tory Boy’ Mansell finally gets his BR-exit, losing his job as many others have. Karma Keep up the good work JB.
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Post by warehamgas on May 12, 2021 18:08:08 GMT
Club gets relegated finishing bottom and players and coaches lose their jobs shocker 😮! No it’s not a shocker yatton and I get what I think you’re getting at but sometimes it’s also about “how” you do something. I’m not saying it shouldn’t have been done but it should have been done better for Manse. Just my opinion of course. UTG!
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 12, 2021 18:09:16 GMT
Oh dear, ‘Tory Boy’ Mansell finally gets his BR-exit, losing his job as many others have. Karma Eh?
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on May 12, 2021 18:14:22 GMT
Well this massive "shake up" I feel is either going to make us or break us, Nobody likes change including me, its a challenge to see that familier team that we've all been used to get torn apart, its a risk, a real risk, but for me at least one I'm happy to take, everyone thought they were untouchable and probably let their guards drop and maybe didnt commit as much as they should to their rolls. Its difficult to envisage it but maybe, just maybe this is what we need... maybe this is why we've been languishing in the lower leagues and not breaking out for so long. Either way, its happening like it or loathe it. maybe, as Joey says... this us the start to our time in the sun
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 12, 2021 18:14:52 GMT
Oh dear, ‘Tory Boy’ Mansell finally gets his BR-exit, losing his job as many others have. Karma Eh? Just gone through his 68 posts and there seems a disproportionate amount of posts saying we should get rid of Mansell. Clearly some vendetta against him.
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Post by yattongas on May 12, 2021 18:14:56 GMT
Club gets relegated finishing bottom and players and coaches lose their jobs shocker 😮! No it’s not a shocker yatton and I get what I think you’re getting at but sometimes it’s also about “how” you do something. I’m not saying it shouldn’t have been done but it should have been done better for Manse. Just my opinion of course. UTG! How do you sack someone better? Genuinely interested to know . The way I see it , it’s part & parcel of professional football. A new manager comes in , lots of players and coaches leave. A side gets relegated , lots of players and coaches leave. We’ve had both events. Nobody knows how he was told or when exactly, it may have been badly handled but also it may have been handled totally professionally. Nobody knows who leaked any info , it could be numerous people.
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Post by bluebiro on May 12, 2021 18:20:40 GMT
Just gone through his 68 posts and there seems a disproportionate amount of mosts saying we should get rid of Mansell. Clearly some vendetta against him. he may be the grimsby keeper who still cant forget
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Post by Topper Gas on May 12, 2021 18:25:02 GMT
There’s shake ups and there’s vandalism. This doesn’t sound right. Yes shake up needed but it will be interesting to see if this is Wael’s vision or JBs vision. UTG! how much is it cloth cutting from a financial point?redundancies that will save the club a lot of money Probably the opposite, if the likes of Mansell are replaced by Barton's mates? It would be odd for Barton to criticise the medical dept then the club reduce the headcount?
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Post by axegas on May 12, 2021 18:28:52 GMT
JB out The club needs a complete overhaul and J B is being ruthless and not keeping “legends” in situ just because as players they may have been. I liked Mansell but legendary he was literally only so for a few months. He scored a penalty which got us out of the Conference. I haven’t seen anything fantastic come through the development team. We don’t have the same club set up as Liverpool did in 70’s & 80’s where promotion from within the ranks such as Fagan etc to manager. Get over yourself and try and see the bigger picture JB is trying to build. He’ll either live by or fall on his sword. Only time will tell but give the man a chance with his own personnel. Then judge Oh dear, ‘Tory Boy’ Mansell finally gets his BR-exit, losing his job as many others have. Karma Keep up the good work JB. Did Mansell sleep with your missus or something? Can’t for the life of me think why you’d be so disrespectful to a good servant to the football club.
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Post by warehamgas on May 12, 2021 18:30:27 GMT
No it’s not a shocker yatton and I get what I think you’re getting at but sometimes it’s also about “how” you do something. I’m not saying it shouldn’t have been done but it should have been done better for Manse. Just my opinion of course. UTG! How do you sack someone better? Genuinely interested to know . The way I see it , it’s part & parcel of professional football. A new manager comes in , lots of players and coaches leave. A side gets relegated , lots of players and coaches leave. We’ve had both events. Nobody knows how he was told or when exactly, it may have been badly handled but also it may have been handled totally professionally. Nobody knows who leaked any info , it could be numerous people. How do you sack someone better? By not leaking it, by whoever, might be a good start. UTG!
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Post by yattongas on May 12, 2021 18:55:44 GMT
How do you sack someone better? Genuinely interested to know . The way I see it , it’s part & parcel of professional football. A new manager comes in , lots of players and coaches leave. A side gets relegated , lots of players and coaches leave. We’ve had both events. Nobody knows how he was told or when exactly, it may have been badly handled but also it may have been handled totally professionally. Nobody knows who leaked any info , it could be numerous people. How do you sack someone better? By not leaking it, by whoever, might be a good start. UTG! Yes ..... but you’ve no idea who leaked it . It could of been Manse himself . UTG 😃
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Post by Somersetgas on May 12, 2021 18:56:44 GMT
Just gone through his 68 posts and there seems a disproportionate amount of posts saying we should get rid of Mansell. Clearly some vendetta against him. I think Mansell must of ran over his cat looking at his old posts, Good research for a change GGMI.
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Post by Colyton Gas on May 12, 2021 18:59:12 GMT
Remember the 'Bing Bong' man doing his Tannoy test at 14.50 hours in his retired Colonel accent.Will he be retained? Did he survive Covid? Is he line to play up front next season?
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Post by Somersetgas on May 12, 2021 19:28:18 GMT
Remember the 'Bing Bong' man doing his Tannoy test at 14.50 hours in his retired Colonel accent.Will he be retained? Did he survive Covid? Is he line to play up front next season? He will be replaced by Sir Rickie Lambert on the bing bongs, our new ground is also moving to the North West.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 12, 2021 19:34:28 GMT
Let's take a step back a bit. We don't know why the club made the decision. We don't know who in the club made the decision. It could have been JB, it could have been Starnes. It could have been because we've been relegated, and the club needed to cut costs, or it could have been as some have suggested that the u23s is strategically no longer a priority for the club. All we can do is assume it's for the club's future success and trust in the club to get it right. He will always be a legend for his achievements, nothing will take that away from him. It does surprise me though as we have talents pushing through into the first team like Mehew. I can't see we can have a Development Squad without a manager and there's been no suggestions that's being cut following our relegation. Apart from Barton's poor results who even knows if he'll be able to manage us next season, if he escapes a conviction/custodial sentence he could still get a hefty ban from the FA.
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Post by warehamgas on May 12, 2021 19:35:39 GMT
How do you sack someone better? By not leaking it, by whoever, might be a good start. UTG! Yes ..... but you’ve no idea who leaked it . It could of been Manse himself . UTG 😃 Perhaps but that makes my point about things being done better. But we move on and hope those replacing those going are better. No excuses from now on. 😉 UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on May 12, 2021 19:40:51 GMT
How do you sack someone better? Genuinely interested to know . The way I see it , it’s part & parcel of professional football. A new manager comes in , lots of players and coaches leave. A side gets relegated , lots of players and coaches leave. We’ve had both events. Nobody knows how he was told or when exactly, it may have been badly handled but also it may have been handled totally professionally. Nobody knows who leaked any info , it could be numerous people. How do you sack someone better? By not leaking it, by whoever, might be a good start. UTG! How do you know the leak didn't come from Mansell's side? Haven't the DS results, like the 1st team, been fairly poor this season, if so, them Mansell's hardly had done himself any favours.
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Post by Blackbeard on May 12, 2021 19:51:09 GMT
I must admit I find this whole thread offensive because nothing has been made official and yet it has been written as if the decisions have been written in stone. This is the whole problem with a forum where certain posters want to be the first to sell a story. Its ok to DISCUSS the possibilities whereas everybody should WAIT until it is OFFICIAL before making statements. To be fair to Blackbeard, he doesn't post lots of information, but when he does, it's usually spot on. The players will know amongst themselves who has been told they are not part of JB's plans, it's not a state secret. I have no idea if the majority of forum users want people who are genuinely ITK to share information, when it is not harmful to do so? Thank you Mr Tillson everyone I don’t deal in rumours or speculation, I’m not selling stories nor looking to slur anyone currently in Joey Barton’s cross hairs All I did was post the name Lee Mansell last night and presto there you go , half think he’s a legend, half think we and he need to move on for the good of the club. For me, thanks for what you did, but as I’ve said before this club is the fans and the shirt, everyone else is a tumbleweed . Steve K you don’t have to read it so just knock the thread onto ignore to save any more offence . It’s not your right to tell me or anyone else what is and isn’t ok to post or what anyone should or shouldn’t wait to do. You’re allowed an opinion but you are in the minority I think. When 95% of what is written on this forum is complete and utter speculation and bullisht you’d think a bit of accuracy would be welcome. like match reports and players scores. Ho hum but no there’s always someone that can get offended about something. Welcome to 2021 Blackbeard
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 12, 2021 20:32:51 GMT
To be fair to Blackbeard, he doesn't post lots of information, but when he does, it's usually spot on. The players will know amongst themselves who has been told they are not part of JB's plans, it's not a state secret. I have no idea if the majority of forum users want people who are genuinely ITK to share information, when it is not harmful to do so? Thank you Mr Tillson everyone I don’t deal in rumours or speculation, I’m not selling stories nor looking to slur anyone currently in Joey Barton’s cross hairs All I did was post the name Lee Mansell last night and presto there you go , half think he’s a legend, half think we and he need to move on for the good of the club. For me, thanks for what you did, but as I’ve said before this club is the fans and the shirt, everyone else is a tumbleweed . Steve K you don’t have to read it so just knock the thread onto ignore to save any more offence . It’s not your right to tell me or anyone else what is and isn’t ok to post or what anyone should or shouldn’t wait to do. You’re allowed an opinion but you are in the minority I think. When 95% of what is written on this forum is complete and utter speculation and bullisht you’d think a bit of accuracy would be welcome. like match reports and players scores. Ho hum but no there’s always someone that can get offended about something. Welcome to 2021 Blackbeard Nice to have an ITK actually be ITK
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Post by kruger on May 12, 2021 20:54:38 GMT
I'm itk, this time tomorrow it will be exactly 24 hours since I said this, you heard it here first!
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