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Post by yattongas on Jun 25, 2021 13:46:41 GMT
Don’t laugh at their demise guys, sadly I fear we may be next. Oh bore off Harry 🥱
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 25, 2021 13:48:28 GMT
Drop the bickering please. Don’t want to have to lock the thread.
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 25, 2021 13:48:53 GMT
Don’t laugh at their demise guys, sadly I fear we may be next. Can you explain in clear terms please why you believe that. Our owner has cleared tens of millions of debt - remember we explored that before? For the first time in the history of the club we have a privately held training facility owned by the holding company of the club group. We have an increased budget which is allowing for a clear out of many of the players who failed at League One level resulting in our relegation. Your friends who wish to buy the club attempted to have Wael removed by the FA but this was dismissed out of hand. With all of that in mind are you able to be more clear about where you see the similarities between our situation and Swindon please. The owners running out of money, hence the strive for sustainability which has now gone out the window so that Wael can save face. That’s a paradox I don’t like at all and one which shows all the hallmarks of bad business leadership. I’d have much more respect for Wael if he stuck to his sustainability goal, especially coming out of the pandemic. Then there’s the viability of the club playing at the mem for decades to come. The aging fan base and facilities that will be falling apart in 10/20 years time really worry me. If you look carefully both Swindon and Rovers share many of the same problems. Just as Swindon took no steps to remedy them, I see Rovers making the very same mistakes.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 25, 2021 13:50:00 GMT
Harrystokegas get off this forum and join the misery brigade on the AF forum
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Post by playtowin on Jun 25, 2021 13:50:18 GMT
Don’t laugh at their demise guys, sadly I fear we may be next. Nah
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 25, 2021 13:50:59 GMT
Don’t laugh at their demise guys, sadly I fear we may be next. You win the funniest post of the day award - Well done That's 27 days on the trot now, a world record You can laugh now, but would you be laughing if Rovers were in such uncertainty as Swindon faced today?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 25, 2021 13:51:58 GMT
Can you explain in clear terms please why you believe that. Our owner has cleared tens of millions of debt - remember we explored that before? For the first time in the history of the club we have a privately held training facility owned by the holding company of the club group. We have an increased budget which is allowing for a clear out of many of the players who failed at League One level resulting in our relegation. Your friends who wish to buy the club attempted to have Wael removed by the FA but this was dismissed out of hand. With all of that in mind are you able to be more clear about where you see the similarities between our situation and Swindon please. The owners running out of money, hence the strive for sustainability which has now gone out the window so that Wael can save face. That’s a paradox I don’t like at all and one which shows all the hallmarks of bad business leadership. I’d have much more respect for Wael if he stuck to his sustainability goal, especially coming out of the pandemic. Then there’s the viability of the club playing at the mem for decades to come. The aging fan base and facilities that will be falling apart in 10/20 years time really worry me. If you look carefully both Swindon and Rovers share many of the same problems. Just as Swindon took no steps to remedy them, I see Rovers making the very same mistakes. Stop spending money, but we need facilities improved? well what do you really want? Also, you have no proof Wael is running out of Jordanian dollar.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jun 25, 2021 13:54:33 GMT
Don’t laugh at their demise guys, sadly I fear we may be next. I didn’t realise Jim Chappell lived in Harry Stoke.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jun 25, 2021 13:55:21 GMT
Many years ago under Glen Hoddle they got demoted by three divisions I think it was for some sort of financial irregularities.Anyway ,I'm having a good day.Moved to Devon in Feb and been constantly pestered by British Gas to pay bill after bill.Not even with them and now transpires the money owed was not me.Full apology and refund and a token compensation received today so feeling smug.
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Post by SleepyGas on Jun 25, 2021 13:56:20 GMT
Many years ago under Glen Hoddle they got demoted by three divisions I think it was for some sort of financial irregularities.Anyway ,I'm having a good day.Moved to Devon in Feb and been constantly pestered by British Gas to pay bill after bill.Not even with them and now transpires the money owed was not me.Full apology and refund today so feeling smug. Finally.. some actual Gas chat
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 25, 2021 13:56:34 GMT
Harrystokegas get off this forum and join the misery brigade on the AF forum I tried and then I thought to myself, I’m on an echo chamber and that’s exactly what I sought to abolish by posting on here. I want to create an environment where people like me, Swiss, Knowall can feel comfortable about posting critical thoughts about the ownership and not be shouted down by a 100 different people with views that can’t accept my own. People have said stop responding, he wants a reaction. But that’s exactly what I want, for views such as mine to go without response all the time so that they gradually begin to be accepted on this forum once again.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 25, 2021 13:59:25 GMT
Don’t laugh at their demise guys, sadly I fear we may be next. Yes because we have an owner just like Power who doesn’t put a penny into the club. The over rated chancer. 🙄🙄
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Post by matealotblue on Jun 25, 2021 13:59:36 GMT
Many years ago under Glen Hoddle they got demoted by three divisions I think it was for some sort of financial irregularities.Anyway ,I'm having a good day.Moved to Devon in Feb and been constantly pestered by British Gas to pay bill after bill.Not even with them and now transpires the money owed was not me.Full apology and refund and a token compensation received today so feeling smug. So you are not Staffordshire Gas really, but may be Devonshire Gas - or even British Gas. How many accounts do you want eh?
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jun 25, 2021 13:59:44 GMT
Can you explain in clear terms please why you believe that. Our owner has cleared tens of millions of debt - remember we explored that before? For the first time in the history of the club we have a privately held training facility owned by the holding company of the club group. We have an increased budget which is allowing for a clear out of many of the players who failed at League One level resulting in our relegation. Your friends who wish to buy the club attempted to have Wael removed by the FA but this was dismissed out of hand. With all of that in mind are you able to be more clear about where you see the similarities between our situation and Swindon please. The owners running out of money, hence the strive for sustainability which has now gone out the window so that Wael can save face. That’s a paradox I don’t like at all and one which shows all the hallmarks of bad business leadership. I’d have much more respect for Wael if he stuck to his sustainability goal, especially coming out of the pandemic. Then there’s the viability of the club playing at the mem for decades to come. The aging fan base and facilities that will be falling apart in 10/20 years time really worry me. If you look carefully both Swindon and Rovers share many of the same problems. Just as Swindon took no steps to remedy them, I see Rovers making the very same mistakes. Here we go again I keep telling myself I'm not going to bite but jeez it's tough Can you please stop presenting your OPINION as FACT. Unless you have access to the owners private bank account details you cant possibly know what his financial situation is. You've come on here and done nothing but slate the owner despite not having a shred of proof to back up any of your claims. I understand your upset that your mates aren't allowed to buy the club but that doesnt make everything Wael does wrong, unless of course you have some evidence to prove otherwise. I wont hold my breath
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 25, 2021 14:02:38 GMT
Harrystokegas get off this forum and join the misery brigade on the AF forum I tried and then I thought to myself, I’m on an echo chamber and that’s exactly what I sought to abolish by posting on here. I want to create an environment where people like me, Swiss, Knowall can feel comfortable about posting critical thoughts about the ownership and not be shouted down by a 100 different people with views that can’t accept my own. People have said stop responding, he wants a reaction. But that’s exactly what I want, for views such as mine to go without response all the time so that they gradually begin to be accepted on this forum once again. You lot are a cult of your own prophetic nonsense that never has and never will come to pass trying to brainwash others.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 25, 2021 14:03:33 GMT
Many years ago under Glen Hoddle they got demoted by three divisions I think it was for some sort of financial irregularities.Anyway ,I'm having a good day.Moved to Devon in Feb and been constantly pestered by British Gas to pay bill after bill.Not even with them and now transpires the money owed was not me.Full apology and refund and a token compensation received today so feeling smug. Name change imminent? Why were you paying a bill you knew you didn’t owe ? I’d of told them to bugger orf! Congratulations on the move , lovely part of the world 😃
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 25, 2021 14:04:28 GMT
Harrystokegas get off this forum and join the misery brigade on the AF forum I tried and then I thought to myself, I’m on an echo chamber and that’s exactly what I sought to abolish by posting on here. I want to create an environment where people like me, Swiss, Knowall can feel comfortable about posting critical thoughts about the ownership and not be shouted down by a 100 different people with views that can’t accept my own. People have said stop responding, he wants a reaction. But that’s exactly what I want, for views such as mine to go without response all the time so that they gradually begin to be accepted on this forum once again. If you want to convince people but are clearly failing in that based on the responses so far, perhaps you may need to address how you post. People on here are willing to listen but unless there is evidence to the contrary, it remains subjective at best.
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Post by LJG on Jun 25, 2021 14:05:02 GMT
Can you explain in clear terms please why you believe that. Our owner has cleared tens of millions of debt - remember we explored that before? For the first time in the history of the club we have a privately held training facility owned by the holding company of the club group. We have an increased budget which is allowing for a clear out of many of the players who failed at League One level resulting in our relegation. Your friends who wish to buy the club attempted to have Wael removed by the FA but this was dismissed out of hand. With all of that in mind are you able to be more clear about where you see the similarities between our situation and Swindon please. The owners running out of money, hence the strive for sustainability which has now gone out the window so that Wael can save face. That’s a paradox I don’t like at all and one which shows all the hallmarks of bad business leadership. I’d have much more respect for Wael if he stuck to his sustainability goal, especially coming out of the pandemic. Then there’s the viability of the club playing at the mem for decades to come. The aging fan base and facilities that will be falling apart in 10/20 years time really worry me. If you look carefully both Swindon and Rovers share many of the same problems. Just as Swindon took no steps to remedy them, I see Rovers making the very same mistakes. 1. Can you provide evidence for the claim you make in bold above please. A move towards sustainability is not an indication of running out of money, it is simply good practice in any venture. You seem a bit confused on why you're criticising Wael here. The move towards sustainability seems to be offered as some sort of evidence that he is running out of money then you criticise the spending of money as unsustainable. Can you be a bit clearer on what your expectations are in that regard please? 2. I don't want to look carefully, you have made the claim so I'm asking you to illuminate that point - I'm sorry I don't have the time to dedicate to detailed research today so I must rely on you please. 3. I don't think Swindon Town's problems have anything to do with their facilities does it? If you can point me to a news article on that I'd be grateful. My understanding is that there are clear administrative issues within the club - "mistaken" sales of shares. Money missing from directors loan accounts. Is that not their problem? Please explain how this relates to their facilities.
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Post by LJG on Jun 25, 2021 14:10:04 GMT
Harrystokegas get off this forum and join the misery brigade on the AF forum I tried and then I thought to myself, I’m on an echo chamber and that’s exactly what I sought to abolish by posting on here. I want to create an environment where people like me, Swiss, Knowall can feel comfortable about posting critical thoughts about the ownership and not be shouted down by a 100 different people with views that can’t accept my own. People have said stop responding, he wants a reaction. But that’s exactly what I want, for views such as mine to go without response all the time so that they gradually begin to be accepted on this forum once again. Swiss doesn't post critical thoughts he posts distortions of the truth masked behind accountancy jargon in the hope that there is no one on here who understands what he's saying to call him out on his misrepresentations. Knowall repeatedly posts a mantra that the owner has run out of money without offering any evidence of that and without even offering evidence of what has lead him to believe that. As you do he claims that spending money is evidence of no money and not spending money is evidence of no money. I suggest that both can't be true. Also, I would suggest that what you post isn't couched in terms of a "view" - for example above you state that the owner is running out of money. You don't qualify that as your "view" you offer it as a matter of fact. I hope that if you continue to do that people continue to respond as they have. If you offer your view, that's a different matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 14:14:23 GMT
Many years ago under Glen Hoddle they got demoted by three divisions I think it was for some sort of financial irregularities.Anyway ,I'm having a good day.Moved to Devon in Feb and been constantly pestered by British Gas to pay bill after bill.Not even with them and now transpires the money owed was not me.Full apology and refund and a token compensation received today so feeling smug. Changed your user name Staffs?
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