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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 9, 2021 22:51:58 GMT
If you include Saunders goals and Taylor in defence, plus Balshaw in goal that's around half of a decent team! We've also got Grant to come back into midfield. Also got Clarke to come in as well. Thought he started the first game of the season well, before getting injured and has played in the championship. Certainly has some good player’s missing of the squad lately.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 9, 2021 22:51:59 GMT
We were doing fine before these two came on Disagree Before they came on we were at risk of conceding and chucking the result away again. They came on and did enough in the short time they were on to turn the game from a roll of the dice to a certainty.
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Post by cj on Oct 9, 2021 22:53:28 GMT
We were doing fine before these two came on Disagree Before they came on we were at risk of conceding and chucking the result away again. They came on and did enough in the short time they were on to turn the game from a roll of the dice to a certainty. I agree. We were riding our luck at times and were beginning to sit back more and more.
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Post by nailseamark on Oct 9, 2021 23:15:17 GMT
Lol we were doing fine before they came on? Thomas set up two goals when he came on. Certainly an improvement.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 10, 2021 6:05:31 GMT
For all the moaning of late, JB hasn't yet had a game with his best eleven players. Yesterday showed the difference with two of our best players coming off the bench. We were missing our best central midfielder too. Even having Clarke back up top will make us stronger once everyone else is fit. The question is, how often are we likely to see all these players available for selection at the same time this season?
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 10, 2021 7:33:50 GMT
Thomas is a fit lad, he needed a bit of conditioning because he missed pre season (which showed in his first few games) and then rolled his ankle in training.
Nicholson was an ever present until his injury that needed an op. If it hadn’t been for a horror tackle that took him out in the early games he would have had a good run.
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Post by stapletongas on Oct 10, 2021 7:38:48 GMT
We were doing fine before these two came on Disagree Before they came on we were at risk of conceding and chucking the result away again. They came on and did enough in the short time they were on to turn the game from a roll of the dice to a certainty. We both speak as we find. Unusually for a Barton team this season I was comfortable that it would stay 1-0. The subs tho did help finish off a poor Carlisle side. I was a bit disappointed that the Thomas sub meant we switched from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1, because the starting 11 and 4-4-2 was doing the job and 2 up top was a breath of fresh air! I suppose my point is that just talking about these two subs is taking the shine off of a good performance in my view by the starting 11. I hope Barton learned yesterday that there is nothing wrong with 4-4-2 and his starters looked more accomplished
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Post by mftc on Oct 10, 2021 9:15:01 GMT
Yes they are two of our best players but don't forget the Carlisle defence were all on bookings and seemed scared to make any challenges.
Maybe it was helped by a ref who made even more strange decision for us than against us for once but maybe because of the divers we have now. In my playing days it may not pc but they would have been called tarts.
Got to say some of the play acting and rolling around was just embarrassing and not anything I want to see from the Gas.
I know it happens against us and this is a part of modern football, but it is plain wrong.
What are kids going to copy. In ten years time players will spend more time screaming and crying than actually playing football and it will become non contact to protected the namby pambys.
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Post by cj on Oct 10, 2021 11:21:43 GMT
For all the moaning of late, JB hasn't yet had a game with his best eleven players. Yesterday showed the difference with two of our best players coming off the bench. We were missing our best central midfielder too. Even having Clarke back up top will make us stronger once everyone else is fit. The question is, how often are we likely to see all these players available for selection at the same time this season? That's the whole point of having a squad. A capable squad so players can fill in when key players are not available. Our is not good enough, hence the league position we are in.
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Post by baggins on Oct 10, 2021 11:38:26 GMT
Thought Collins put in a performance as well.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 10, 2021 11:59:41 GMT
I actually thought there were good performances all over the pitch yesterday. Belshaw didn't have a lot to do but what he did,he did well. I thought the defence as a whole were pretty solid and Coutts and whean had probably their best games as did Evans and Collins. I too would like to see the 4-4-2 kept and built upon with even more pressing. The difference Nicholson and Thomas made were that they are a bit special for this division and can open up the defence and finish. The Nicholson goal looked easy but there was a certain class in the way he put it away. The ball through from Thomas for the tird was similar to those that Hanlan thrived on last season until Nicholson was injured. I for one would rather have Hanlan up top!
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Post by baggins on Oct 10, 2021 12:05:19 GMT
I actually thought there were good performances all over the pitch yesterday. Belshaw didn't have a lot to do but what he did,he did well. I thought the defence as a whole were pretty solid and Coutts and whean had probably their best games as did Evans and Collins. I too would like to see the 4-4-2 kept and built upon with even more pressing. The difference Nicholson and Thomas made were that they are a bit special for this division and can open up the defence and finish. The Nicholson goal looked easy but there was a certain class in the way he put it away. The ball through from Thomas for the tird was similar to those that Hanlan thrived on last season until Nicholson was injured. I for one would rather have Hanlan up top! Hanlan up top? Seriously?
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 10, 2021 12:12:27 GMT
With support he was a good player up to Christmas. I think he will show you that at Wycombe too. The difference with hanlan was that he could get kicked but still play the majority of games. This season in League Two i think he would have been one of the top players- certainly worth more staying than the paltry fee we got for him.
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Post by baggins on Oct 10, 2021 12:20:37 GMT
With support he was a good player up to Christmas. I think he will show you that at Wycombe too. The difference with hanlan was that he could get kicked but still play the majority of games. This season in League Two i think he would have been one of the top players- certainly worth more staying than the paltry fee we got for him. He wouldn't.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 10, 2021 12:23:03 GMT
Well baggins we will see how often he plays in League 1 for Wycombe in LEAGUE 1 and how many he scores,
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Oct 10, 2021 13:00:44 GMT
We were doing fine before these two came on Disagree Before they came on we were at risk of conceding and chucking the result away again. They came on and did enough in the short time they were on to turn the game from a roll of the dice to a certainty. Actually went to watch yesterday's game and the first 25 minutes or so of the second half were quiet apart from a few efforts from Carlisle, from what I saw the subs coming on made the difference between a 1-0 slog to a 3-0 credible win
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Post by mftc on Oct 10, 2021 14:12:29 GMT
I actually thought there were good performances all over the pitch yesterday. Belshaw didn't have a lot to do but what he did,he did well. I thought the defence as a whole were pretty solid and Coutts and whean had probably their best games as did Evans and Collins. I too would like to see the 4-4-2 kept and built upon with even more pressing. The difference Nicholson and Thomas made were that they are a bit special for this division and can open up the defence and finish. The Nicholson goal looked easy but there was a certain class in the way he put it away. The ball through from Thomas for the tird was similar to those that Hanlan thrived on last season until Nicholson was injured. I for one would rather have Hanlan up top! Blimey you don't like Saunders do you!
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Post by Quarters on Oct 10, 2021 14:20:34 GMT
Not sure it was a 4-4-2. 4-2-3-1 when attacking, 4-5-1 when defending.
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Post by stapletongas on Oct 10, 2021 14:45:03 GMT
Not sure it was a 4-4-2. 4-2-3-1 when attacking, 4-5-1 when defending. Well 4-4-2 does transition like that as you move up and down the pitch. In the opposition final third it can morph into a 2-4-4
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Post by mftc on Oct 10, 2021 17:25:55 GMT
With Saunders so quick and Coutts and Whelan so slow sometimes it looked like 1-1-2-1-1-4!!
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