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Post by baggins on Jan 23, 2022 14:22:42 GMT
The cold reality is we are in the basement division struggling to win away with some poor players and just a handful capable of league one football. We certainly need to recall Kieron Phillips from Swindon and trst him on league Two as his goals record at Suoermarine is very good. Judging by the replies, you're in a minority of just you who thinks that.
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 23, 2022 14:23:19 GMT
Just had a quick look at Swindons forum, apart from the odd decent honest comment they really are a horrible club, vile and disgusting comment's by some of them, oh yeah and this was our cup final according to one of them lol, hummm I think not, horrible place I wouldn't bother mate. You're rarely going to get a balanced opinion from an opposing forum and it is probably the same on here.
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Post by bluebiro on Jan 23, 2022 14:27:11 GMT
It was nice to see a Rovers midfield take control for large parts of the game yesterday, obviously getting Sam Finley back was a key factor, but I thought Paul Coutts put in a great shift & we are starting to see why JB brought him to the club & why fans from two of his previous clubs Sheffield united & Derby always spoke highly of him. the last few games he has pulled the strings for us. Must help his team mates immensely to know he is in the middle of the park dictating play
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 23, 2022 14:27:52 GMT
The cold reality is we are in the basement division struggling to win away with some poor players and just a handful capable of league one football. We certainly need to recall Kieron Phillips from Swindon and trst him on league Two as his goals record at Suoermarine is very good. Phillips would have gotten eaten alive in that game yesterday. No way ready for a league 2 rough and tumble. With Collins now scoring, Nicholson getting into much better level of fitness, Evans getting assists and goals and having a good engine in Finley the midfield we are really starting to kick on.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 23, 2022 14:29:46 GMT
It was nice to see a Rovers midfield take control for large parts of the game yesterday, obviously getting Sam Finley back was a key factor, but I thought Paul Coutts put in a great shift & we are starting to see why JB brought him to the club & why fans from two of his previous clubs Sheffield united & Derby always spoke highly of him. the last few games he has pulled the strings for us. Must help his team mates immensely to know he is in the middle of the park dictating play Coutts was good yesterday, I have to begrudgingly admit. Although I thought he brought out the worst in having him in the side as well. I still believe he doesn’t have the footballing brain or pace anymore for this level and I much prefer Whelan in there.
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Post by baggins on Jan 23, 2022 14:30:31 GMT
The cold reality is we are in the basement division struggling to win away with some poor players and just a handful capable of league one football. We certainly need to recall Kieron Phillips from Swindon and trst him on league Two as his goals record at Suoermarine is very good. Phillips would have gotten eaten alive in that game yesterday. No way ready for a league 2 rough and tumble. With Collins now scoring, Nicholson getting into much better level of fitness, Evans getting assists and goals and having a good engine in Finley the midfield we are really starting to kick on. It's almost as if JB is slowly but surely putting a hard working fighting squad together who actually want to play for the shirt.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Jan 23, 2022 14:43:15 GMT
“Bristol came to be aggressive and hopefully, the officials will look at themselves" Garner calling us Bristol, what a twat. For me, the only worthy booking of our 6 cards today was Finley’s. We were physical but certainly not dirty, it was men against children in that midfield. Williams got away with a shocker of a tackle on Evans first half, Loft having his head cut open by a flying kick to the face & the same lad being dragged to the floor during a corner early on for a stonewall penalty. Ben ten and his selective memory eh? He always seemed very snowflakey to me, probably doesn’t like all that physical stuff . . .
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Post by wertongas on Jan 23, 2022 14:47:28 GMT
When Garner was manager he said he only brought one experienced striker in because he expected the goals to come from the attacking midfielders well that didn't work out. Oddly enough Barton said he was going to bring more strikers in to get more goals but most of our goals have come from the attacking midfielders,which is what Garner wanted to achieve. Makes me question how good either manager is and it is as much luck as judgement whether their tactics succeed . Ffs, don't compare Garner to Barton. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it. You misread what I said I was not comparing the two managers , BG wanted to play refined passing football where as Barton style is relying on hard work , some technical ability and organisation typical of a lower league team and totally different to BG you can't compare they are different styles. What I was pointing out was that BG , kept strike force to the minimum expecting goals from his midfield , where as Barton went out of his way to bring in more strikers to get the goals but we have looked better and scored more freely without an out an out striker which is what BG set out to do. Barton achieved the opposite of what he set out to do. That of course maybe because the strikers he brought either have some quality but are old and injury prone or with loft nothing more than run of the mill league two. The only decent striker is Saunders .
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Post by wertongas on Jan 23, 2022 14:48:37 GMT
Ffs, don't compare Garner to Barton. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it. You misread what I said I was not comparing the two managers , BG wanted to play refined passing football where as Barton style is relying on hard work , some technical ability and organisation typical of a lower league manager and totally different to BG you can't compare they are totally different styles. What I was pointing out was that BG , kept strike force to the minimum expecting goals from his midfield , where as Barton went out of his way to bring in more strikers to get the goals but we have looked better and scored more freely without an out an out striker which is what BG set out to do. Barton achieved the opposite of what he set out to do. That of course maybe because the strikers he brought either have some quality but are old and injury prone or with loft nothing more than run of the mill league two. The only decent striker is Saunders .
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Post by wertongas on Jan 23, 2022 14:49:48 GMT
You misread what I said I was not comparing the two managers , BG wanted to play refined passing football where as Barton style is relying on hard work , some technical ability and organisation typical of a lower league manager and totally different to BG you can't compare they are totally different styles. What I was pointing out was that BG , kept strike force to the minimum expecting goals from his midfield , where as Barton went out of his way to bring in more strikers to get the goals but we have looked better and scored more freely without an out an out striker which is what BG set out to do. Barton achieved the opposite of what he set out to do. That of course maybe because the strikers he brought either have some quality but are old and injury prone or with loft nothing more than run of the mill league two. The only decent striker is Saunders .
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 23, 2022 15:05:57 GMT
6 bookings to their 1??? According to the BBC stats the foul count was 13 each side. The sub-conscious Joey Barton effect on referees? Been thinking along the same lines but yesterday was a farce and the ref let them get away with so much more that with us
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 23, 2022 15:19:48 GMT
6 bookings to their 1??? According to the BBC stats the foul count was 13 each side. The sub-conscious Joey Barton effect on referees? Been thinking along the same lines but yesterday was a farce and the ref let them get away with so much more that with us Watched the game and they clearly got away with some tackles that deserved yellow cards. One made by Williams in paticular was a carbon copy of one by us a minute or so earlier that was considered to be a yellow card. The ref was quite clearly a homer.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 23, 2022 15:55:42 GMT
Performance was brilliant today and thoroughly deserved our point. Probably didn’t create enough good chances to take all three - final ball was missing at times- but we more than matched them on their own patch. Feel far more positive coming out of today’s draw than I did last week’s win. Play like we did today more often and we’ll climb that league. Good to read that from you Ollie
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 23, 2022 16:01:10 GMT
That was my view too before the game, but a point is what we have. Had we won we would have been nine points off the play offs with games in hand now we are ten points off. We need to average about 2 points per remaining game to get into the mix, which is a tall order. It’s still doable, but we have to do something similar to what we did in 2006 season which involved a ten or twelve match winning run if my memory serves me correctly. True a draw today was decent, but we need to be more than that if we are to challenge for promotion from our position. We were in the playoff positions in January of that 06/07 season. Yes, something i had pointed out to me which i had either forgotten or disregarded but we did do very well after the tinpot trophy defeat in Cardiff. Happy times
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2022 16:04:03 GMT
What's that got to do with the team's recent improved performances? If JB had avoided the "passengers" we could well be now in the top 7. I'm not a crackpot like you who wants a manager sacked every 6 months, 6 months after telling everyone he was the best man for the job. As opposed to a crackpot like you who changes his opinion 2 or 3 times a day and 5 or 6 times a week. It wasn't so long ago you were claiming it was only "stubbornness" preventing Wael from sacking Barton and that you were "starting to lose the willingness to attend future games again". I suppose it just depends on which way the wind is blowing eh After relegation and a poor start to this season I sense a lot of Gashead's were losing the will to attend matches, but unlike you and the rest of the hate gang I can see Barton's making some progress and performances are now improving.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2022 16:08:16 GMT
Ffs, don't compare Garner to Barton. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it. You misread what I said I was not comparing the two managers , BG wanted to play refined passing football where as Barton style is relying on hard work , some technical ability and organisation typical of a lower league team and totally different to BG you can't compare they are different styles. What I was pointing out was that BG , kept strike force to the minimum expecting goals from his midfield , where as Barton went out of his way to bring in more strikers to get the goals but we have looked better and scored more freely without an out an out striker which is what BG set out to do. Barton achieved the opposite of what he set out to do. That of course maybe because the strikers he brought either have some quality but are old and injury prone or with loft nothing more than run of the mill league two. The only decent striker is Saunders .Even by Gashead's standards writing off a new striker after just 2 games must be a record? Imagine if any of us changed jobs involving moving 100's of miles across country, would we hit the ground running or take a few weeks to settle in and get up to speed in our new job?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jan 23, 2022 16:11:59 GMT
I thought we battled well yesterday, after the first 20 minutes. The reffing in this league is pretty abysmal, the ref yesterday did appear to be a homer though, we don't seem to get too many of them reffing at The Mem.
I now look forward to games, which wasn't the case for quite a while. I like this team and their attitude.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 23, 2022 16:12:41 GMT
Just had a quick look at Swindons forum, apart from the odd decent honest comment they really are a horrible club, vile and disgusting comment's by some of them, oh yeah and this was our cup final according to one of them lol, hummm I think not, horrible place Gives me the same vibes of the silly Yeovil fan.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 23, 2022 16:16:33 GMT
You misread what I said I was not comparing the two managers , BG wanted to play refined passing football where as Barton style is relying on hard work , some technical ability and organisation typical of a lower league team and totally different to BG you can't compare they are different styles. What I was pointing out was that BG , kept strike force to the minimum expecting goals from his midfield , where as Barton went out of his way to bring in more strikers to get the goals but we have looked better and scored more freely without an out an out striker which is what BG set out to do. Barton achieved the opposite of what he set out to do. That of course maybe because the strikers he brought either have some quality but are old and injury prone or with loft nothing more than run of the mill league two. The only decent striker is Saunders .Even by Gashead's standards writing off a new striker after just 2 games must be a record? Imagine if any of us changed jobs involving moving 100's of miles across country, would we hit the ground running or take a few weeks to settle in and get up to speed in our new job? I expected more given he had almost 2 weeks to get to know the squad before he could play a game, but fully understand its only 2 games. Still think there were/are better options out there, and many who wouldn't have commanded a fee.
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 23, 2022 16:18:01 GMT
Which is higher than our league position which shows we are improving. Continue improving and we won’t be far off. I’m not saying we’ll make play offs but , well if we continue to rise up through the division throughout the rest of the season then that will at least be a massive improvement over the last two years "If I can't get you promoted out of League Two I shouldn't be in the game" - Joey Barton He will, with this squad, but maybe next year?
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