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Post by Gastafari on Mar 30, 2022 5:22:15 GMT
To be fair to them they've come from nowhere due to the ex United players bankrolling them, not only do they have United and City basically in the same City, there's also Bolton,Oldham & Rochdale down the Road, plus there's Altringham in National League as well as FC United who average nearly 2000 in the Northern Premier Maybe the class of 92 boys would have been better off investing in one of those clubs with a more established fanbase? Salford did well to get into the Football League but I feel like their potential is quite limited Especially Gary Neville. His parents were directors at Bury, they died while he's pumping all that money into Salford
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Post by Qatar Gas on Mar 30, 2022 6:19:10 GMT
Fully expected Mansfield to score another last minute winner! As long as teams are not winning their games in hand, that's all we can ask for!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 30, 2022 8:56:39 GMT
Must have been something good on TV tonight in Salford..... 1290 turned up to watch them on a good run. UTG! To be fair to them they've come from nowhere due to the ex United players bankrolling them, not only do they have United and City basically in the same City, there's also Bolton,Oldham & Rochdale down the Road, plus there's Altringham in National League as well as FC United who average nearly 2000 in the Northern Premier True but that’s part of why I posted it. The fans were never demanding league football, because there were probably under 500 of them before the ex-United players rolled up. Just seems to be a complete vanity project with little or no foundations except the money being used to keep them alive. They are playing well, yet under 2000 turn up to see them win an important match. Complete bonkers. UTG!
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Post by baggins on Mar 30, 2022 10:24:38 GMT
To be fair to them they've come from nowhere due to the ex United players bankrolling them, not only do they have United and City basically in the same City, there's also Bolton,Oldham & Rochdale down the Road, plus there's Altringham in National League as well as FC United who average nearly 2000 in the Northern Premier True but that’s part of why I posted it. The fans were never demanding league football, because there were probably under 500 of them before the ex-United players rolled up. Just seems to be a complete vanity project with little or no foundations except the money being used to keep them alive. They are playing well, yet under 2000 turn up to see them win an important match. Complete bonkers. UTG! Don't suppose it helps much having United, City, Liverpool and Everton within easy reach?
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 30, 2022 13:12:07 GMT
True but that’s part of why I posted it. The fans were never demanding league football, because there were probably under 500 of them before the ex-United players rolled up. Just seems to be a complete vanity project with little or no foundations except the money being used to keep them alive. They are playing well, yet under 2000 turn up to see them win an important match. Complete bonkers. UTG! Don't suppose it helps much having United, City, Liverpool and Everton within easy reach? No, I’m sure it doesn’t help. But I guess Rochdale, Bury (Oops!), even Wigan 30 years ago, Stockport, Brentford 10 years ago, and many others are within easy reach of a number of big clubs. But those clubs look as if they are genuine clubs with a core of supporters, a history, and likely to have pretty good attendances were they to be on a good run. Istr a couple of years ago Salford and AFC Fylde meeting in the National League final at Wembley with an attendance of about 7000! Even Sky were embarrassed and it takes something to do that! By the way this isn’t really a dig at Salford because I always believe the EFL should be determined on merit, if you’re good enough you’re big enough whatever your attendances are. And clubs are usually where they are for a reason. So I have no problem with “newer” clubs succeeding. But honestly, 1290 as an attendance when your team is on a winning streak!!! That’s just unbelievable. 🤔 UTG! Edit: With Salford bankrolled by Peter Lim, an Asian billionaire behind the public face of the Man Utd. group of the Neville’s etc. it has no pretence at being a sustainable club. It is a vanity project. And sorry, I’ll stop going on now. Don’t want to hijack this thread and make it about Salford. But 1290!!!! 😉
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Post by yattongas on Mar 30, 2022 14:54:09 GMT
Don't suppose it helps much having United, City, Liverpool and Everton within easy reach? No, I’m sure it doesn’t help. But I guess Rochdale, Bury (Oops!), even Wigan 30 years ago, Stockport, Brentford 10 years ago, and many others are within easy reach of a number of big clubs. But those clubs look as if they are genuine clubs with a core of supporters, a history, and likely to have pretty good attendances were they to be on a good run. Istr a couple of years ago Salford and AFC Fylde meeting in the National League final at Wembley with an attendance of about 7000! Even Sky were embarrassed and it takes something to do that! By the way this isn’t really a dig at Salford because I always believe the EFL should be determined on merit, if you’re good enough you’re big enough whatever your attendances are. And clubs are usually where they are for a reason. So I have no problem with “newer” clubs succeeding. But honestly, 1290 as an attendance when your team is on a winning streak!!! That’s just unbelievable. 🤔 UTG! Edit: With Salford bankrolled by Peter Lim, an Asian billionaire behind the public face of the Man Utd. group of the Neville’s etc. it has no pretence at being a sustainable club. It is a vanity project. And sorry, I’ll stop going on now. Don’t want to hijack this thread and make it about Salford. But 1290!!!! 😉 I remember Wigan getting similar crowds back in the day. It can be done .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 15:08:30 GMT
Maybe the class of 92 boys would have been better off investing in one of those clubs with a more established fanbase? Salford did well to get into the Football League but I feel like their potential is quite limited Especially Gary Neville. His parents were directors at Bury, they died while he's pumping all that money into Salford I suspect I’m talking out of my arse. But isn’t it the Valencia owner and owner of Salford fronting the money. The 92 boys are surely a marketing exercise and a jolly boys outing.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 30, 2022 16:06:14 GMT
No, I’m sure it doesn’t help. But I guess Rochdale, Bury (Oops!), even Wigan 30 years ago, Stockport, Brentford 10 years ago, and many others are within easy reach of a number of big clubs. But those clubs look as if they are genuine clubs with a core of supporters, a history, and likely to have pretty good attendances were they to be on a good run. Istr a couple of years ago Salford and AFC Fylde meeting in the National League final at Wembley with an attendance of about 7000! Even Sky were embarrassed and it takes something to do that! By the way this isn’t really a dig at Salford because I always believe the EFL should be determined on merit, if you’re good enough you’re big enough whatever your attendances are. And clubs are usually where they are for a reason. So I have no problem with “newer” clubs succeeding. But honestly, 1290 as an attendance when your team is on a winning streak!!! That’s just unbelievable. 🤔 UTG! Edit: With Salford bankrolled by Peter Lim, an Asian billionaire behind the public face of the Man Utd. group of the Neville’s etc. it has no pretence at being a sustainable club. It is a vanity project. And sorry, I’ll stop going on now. Don’t want to hijack this thread and make it about Salford. But 1290!!!! 😉 I remember Wigan getting similar crowds back in the day. It can be done . Respectfully yatton I think they are very different cases. Wigan were a very successful non league club for many years. I think they knocked Birmingham out of the cup one year and were at the very top levels of non league, the NPL before the Alliance League came along for many years. Wigan might have had crowds of that size but when they were in non league. Salford crowds pre-Class of 92 were in double figures only on occasions. When they started getting success Wigan’s crowds were probably at the 3/4000 size not massive but fairly average for Division 4. Salford were never a successful non league club before Neville etc. rolled up. And you’re right of course, it can be done but it needs the support of the community who want to see football. I’m not sure that’s present in Salford. Might be wrong but don’t think so. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 30, 2022 16:11:27 GMT
Especially Gary Neville. His parents were directors at Bury, they died while he's pumping all that money into Salford I suspect I’m talking out of my arse. But isn’t it the Valencia owner and owner of Salford fronting the money. The 92 boys are surely a marketing exercise and a jolly boys outing. You’re right, Peter Lim is the backer and as you say the 92 boys are the publicity! I think he is part of Valencia which was where Gary Neville was manager for about 10 losing games. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 16:32:23 GMT
Thank you for that, I thought I was dreaming it. Somewhere in the grey cells I thought there was a connection between Valencia and Salford. Appears as if the case after all, and yes he did spend a few weeks as manager couple or so seasons back.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 30, 2022 16:39:10 GMT
I remember Wigan getting similar crowds back in the day. It can be done . Respectfully yatton I think they are very different cases. Wigan were a very successful non league club for many years. I think they knocked Birmingham out of the cup one year and were at the very top levels of non league, the NPL before the Alliance League came along for many years. Wigan might have had crowds of that size but when they were in non league. Salford crowds pre-Class of 92 were in double figures only on occasions. When they started getting success Wigan’s crowds were probably at the 3/4000 size not massive but fairly average for Division 4. Salford were never a successful non league club before Neville etc. rolled up. And you’re right of course, it can be done but it needs the support of the community who want to see football. I’m not sure that’s present in Salford. Might be wrong but don’t think so. UTG! If I remember rightly , Wigan struggled to get 2k in the bottom div .
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2022 18:09:23 GMT
Must have been something good on TV tonight in Salford..... 1290 turned up to watch them on a good run. UTG! Imagine if we got to Wembley this year and had to play either Salford or FGR, they'd be 40K+ Gasheads at one end of the ground and about 5K fans supporting the opposition at the other end!
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 30, 2022 18:41:41 GMT
Respectfully yatton I think they are very different cases. Wigan were a very successful non league club for many years. I think they knocked Birmingham out of the cup one year and were at the very top levels of non league, the NPL before the Alliance League came along for many years. Wigan might have had crowds of that size but when they were in non league. Salford crowds pre-Class of 92 were in double figures only on occasions. When they started getting success Wigan’s crowds were probably at the 3/4000 size not massive but fairly average for Division 4. Salford were never a successful non league club before Neville etc. rolled up. And you’re right of course, it can be done but it needs the support of the community who want to see football. I’m not sure that’s present in Salford. Might be wrong but don’t think so. UTG! If I remember rightly , Wigan struggled to get 2k in the bottom div . You may be right yatton, not going to argue. But I don’t expect it was when they were on a good run like Salford are now. 👍 UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2022 19:19:47 GMT
If you lived in Salford then why would you suddenly stop supporting the likes of Rochdale, Oldham, Bolton and Stockport, if you've supported them all your life, for a newly formed club?
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Post by hardingegas on Mar 30, 2022 21:28:25 GMT
Exactly, there is no tradition of support for any football team in Salford - west of Manchester has traditionally been a Rugby League stronghold.
It's a bit like pumping money into a village team based in Gloucestershire!
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 30, 2022 23:19:38 GMT
Especially Gary Neville. His parents were directors at Bury, they died while he's pumping all that money into Salford I suspect I’m talking out of my arse. But isn’t it the Valencia owner and owner of Salford fronting the money. The 92 boys are surely a marketing exercise and a jolly boys outing. I guess you can call it a consortium. Peter Lim owns 40% I believe, while Neville, Giggs, Beckham,Scholes and Nicky Butt own the remaining 60% collectively. So technically they're all co-owners
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 31, 2022 0:14:25 GMT
If you lived in Salford then why would you suddenly stop supporting the likes of Rochdale, Oldham, Bolton and Stockport, if you've supported them all your life, for a newly formed club? Newly formed? Salford are 42 years older than our red friends in Bedminster and coincidentally entered the current league structure the same year they did!
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 3, 2022 19:30:43 GMT
If Joey ever needs to show an example of how not to see a game out to our boys, the Pappa John final today was a classic. Sutton monumentally cocked it up today. 2.1 up in the dying moments decide it’s a good idea to go for the third and start slinging passes all over the pitch. I’m no fan of Sutton but it made for horrific viewing especially as they then went on to lose in ET
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Post by lympstonegas on Apr 3, 2022 20:44:54 GMT
That had to be gruelling for Sutton. Had chances to win it but threw it away as you say. Got to take it out of them and make you wonder if it will affect their run in. Having said that when we lost to Donny at the millennium we got stronger and sun at Wembley
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 3, 2022 21:51:02 GMT
That had to be gruelling for Sutton. Had chances to win it but threw it away as you say. Got to take it out of them and make you wonder if it will affect their run in. Having said that when we lost to Donny at the millennium we got stronger and sun at Wembley That Doncaster game and the way we fought our way back into the game seemed to be a big boost for our run in. The way Sutton chucked that away when all they needed to do was run the clock down will be very painful
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