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Post by dinsdale on Apr 8, 2022 20:16:53 GMT
Its a sticker for christ sake. Yes its immature and silly but its a sticker. Manager punching wife = fine lets ignore it its a victimless crime. Child making a stupid sticker and suddenly we get a club statement and condolences etc. Some sense of proportionality would be nice. Fully behind equality and respect for women unlike the football club That I am afraid offends hugely. I am now not talking about just Rovers here, this is woman’s and girls football. I have boys that play the game at a good level and don’t have daughters. But have close friends who have both boys and daughters who play football again at a very good level. Me, my wife and my boys have throughly enjoyed watching our friends girls play football in the last 5 or 6 seasons, which in fairness has only taken off over the last decade. I’m sorry I take exception to comments that trivialise a sticker made by kids!!!!!!!!!! Go and watch a womens / girls game and I guarantee that will change your mind. Im sorry but literally my point is the club has trivialised violence against women yet issues a club statement of condemnation because some idiot made some stupid stickers. There is no consistency or weight behind the clubs comments. Many of the fans dont give a sh** about our manager being violent to his wife yet are going all out to condemn some sticker making child. There is no proportionality in this and people are just reacting to the easy to react to issue and closing their ears to the much more serious problems at the club. My daughter plays football and i fully support attempts to promote equality especially addressing domestic violence
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Post by nottsgas on Apr 8, 2022 20:29:32 GMT
That I am afraid offends hugely. I am now not talking about just Rovers here, this is woman’s and girls football. I have boys that play the game at a good level and don’t have daughters. But have close friends who have both boys and daughters who play football again at a very good level. Me, my wife and my boys have throughly enjoyed watching our friends girls play football in the last 5 or 6 seasons, which in fairness has only taken off over the last decade. I’m sorry I take exception to comments that trivialise a sticker made by kids!!!!!!!!!! Go and watch a womens / girls game and I guarantee that will change your mind. Im sorry but literally my point is the club has trivialised violence against women yet issues a club statement of condemnation because some idiot made some stupid stickers. There is no consistency or weight behind the clubs comments. Many of the fans dont give a sh** about our manager being violent to his wife yet are going all out to condemn some sticker making child. There is no proportionality in this and people are just reacting to the easy to react to issue and closing their ears to the much more serious problems at the club. My daughter plays football and i fully support attempts to promote equality especially addressing domestic violence Unfortunately you're not wrong about the hypocrisy of supporting Her Game Too whilst standing behind Barton, but I'm not sure there's much we can do as fans regarding Barton, especially as his court case is outstanding. At least HGT's aims are a lot more long term and will (hopefully) have a longer impact on the club and our culture than Barton, who will most likely be gone within five years.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 8, 2022 20:29:42 GMT
Chavslivesmatter brigade will be up in arms I guarantee you in 10 years the word “chav” will be seen as an intolerant term of abuse. I mean, it’s aimed at people of lower economic status with poor education and a lack of positive role models. At which point, most of the lemmings out there will be hash tagging hoe they hate socio-economic abuse and how scum who use that word should be prosecuted and shamed. Human beings are like herd animals. They don’t think about things and just say and support what they think buys them social capital. Mark my words. Why don't you just find another thread to post on tonight?
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Post by dinsdale on Apr 8, 2022 20:36:14 GMT
Im sorry but literally my point is the club has trivialised violence against women yet issues a club statement of condemnation because some idiot made some stupid stickers. There is no consistency or weight behind the clubs comments. Many of the fans dont give a sh** about our manager being violent to his wife yet are going all out to condemn some sticker making child. There is no proportionality in this and people are just reacting to the easy to react to issue and closing their ears to the much more serious problems at the club. My daughter plays football and i fully support attempts to promote equality especially addressing domestic violence Unfortunately you're not wrong about the hypocrisy of supporting Her Game Too whilst standing behind Barton, but I'm not sure there's much we can do as fans regarding Barton, especially as his court case is outstanding. At least HGT's aims are a lot more long term and will (hopefully) have a longer impact on the club and our culture than Barton, who will most likely be gone within five years. My own view is that the club and the fans have ignored serious issues related to equality at the football club namely our manager abusing his wife because the consequences of standing up for whats right here fans dont want to take. The fans could have removed Barton if they could have been bothered. Moaning at a kid making some horrible stickers is easy for the club and fans to do as you can say the right things without having to make difficult decisions.. Ive invested 20 years into protecting women from abuse and cant put my values to one side because of football.
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Post by dinsdale on Apr 8, 2022 20:37:24 GMT
Your football club is on the wrong side of the equality agenda. Actions make a difference, words are just words
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 8, 2022 21:09:18 GMT
I guarantee you in 10 years the word “chav” will be seen as an intolerant term of abuse. I mean, it’s aimed at people of lower economic status with poor education and a lack of positive role models. At which point, most of the lemmings out there will be hash tagging hoe they hate socio-economic abuse and how scum who use that word should be prosecuted and shamed. Human beings are like herd animals. They don’t think about things and just say and support what they think buys them social capital. Mark my words. Why don't you just find another thread to post on tonight? +2 social capital
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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2022 21:17:39 GMT
Why don't you just find another thread to post on tonight? +2 social capital 🥱
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Post by aghast on Apr 8, 2022 21:24:22 GMT
A great initiative by the women involved which can only be positive for the game and all fans. And so sad some denigrate it, including those who trivialise it on here.
The club's response to JB's alleged behaviour left a lot to be desired, but it's a different issue and shouldn't be confused with this.
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 8, 2022 21:27:31 GMT
+1 The irony of a yawn isn’t lost. Woosh
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Post by albaron on Apr 8, 2022 21:29:47 GMT
Its a sticker for christ sake. Yes its immature and silly but its a sticker. Manager punching wife = fine lets ignore it its a victimless crime. Child making a stupid sticker and suddenly we get a club statement and condolences etc. Some sense of proportionality would be nice. Fully behind equality and respect for women unlike the football club Imagine somebody puts up a Nazi flag in your garden -- Would your comment be " Its only a flag " . Thought not.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Apr 8, 2022 21:40:59 GMT
Its a sticker for christ sake. Yes its immature and silly but its a sticker. Manager punching wife = fine lets ignore it its a victimless crime. Child making a stupid sticker and suddenly we get a club statement and condolences etc. Some sense of proportionality would be nice. Fully behind equality and respect for women unlike the football club Imagine somebody puts up a Nazi flag in your garden -- Would your comment be " Its only a flag " . Thought not. Think you've missed the point. I don't usually agree with Dins but I do here. Why are the club coming out and condoning these stickers when they've fully backed a manager who has some serious allegations against him for abuse against women? You're either against it or for it, we as a club are picking and choosing. Fully behind HerGameToo and whilst I respect the clubs thoughts on the statement, it means very little based on how they've had very little to say when it comes to JB.
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Post by gasfred on Apr 8, 2022 21:47:32 GMT
Blah blah blah
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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2022 21:50:29 GMT
+1 The irony of a yawn isn’t lost. Woosh 🥱
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Post by aghast on Apr 8, 2022 21:51:07 GMT
Imagine somebody puts up a Nazi flag in your garden -- Would your comment be " Its only a flag " . Thought not. Think you've missed the point. I don't usually agree with Dins but I do here. Why are the club coming out and condoning these stickers when they've fully backed a manager who has some serious allegations against him for abuse against women? You're either against it or for it, we as a club are picking and choosing. Fully behind HerGameToo and whilst I respect the clubs thoughts on the statement, it means very little based on how they've had very little to say when it comes to JB. I'm not first in the queue to defend JB or how the club reacted, but he's on trial, not guilty yet, and the club removed its ridiculous 'victimless crime' comment with no doubt a few people in the media team feeling a bit red-faced. I don't really think that they could have apologised for the error. I would have been like saying it was after all a crime with a victim. Which at the moment it's not. It's a legal case. And a stupid ill-thought out defensive comment made by some naïve wannabe journo about JB has very little to do with this thread.
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Post by socrates on Apr 8, 2022 22:09:51 GMT
Chav? Really? On a thread about equality? As a chav, I resent this. Chavsgametoo! Chavs shag strangers in the back of transits..its true I saw it on a porno. X Yeah but I’m upgrading to a Transporter soon.
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Post by baggins on Apr 9, 2022 5:09:29 GMT
Thread nicely ruined.
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Post by Congas on Apr 9, 2022 6:07:44 GMT
Unbelievable that in this day and age people could do such a thing. We should be proud that these ladies who started Her game too are connected to our club. Caz and Lucy stand proud! Proper gasheads are all behind you 😀 They're women not ladies. :-)
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 9, 2022 9:03:59 GMT
I think the best response would have been not to give the sticker idiots the attention which they so obviously crave. They are now portraying themselves as victims - not allowed to have an opinion etc etc.
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Post by dudelebowski on Apr 9, 2022 10:22:09 GMT
I think the best response would have been not to give the sticker idiots the attention which they so obviously crave. They are now portraying themselves as victims - not allowed to have an opinion etc etc. Actively attacking someone’s campaign & harassing/bullying them in the online world now being touted as an ‘opinion’, really shows the level of intelligence they’re up against.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 9, 2022 10:40:17 GMT
I think the best response would have been not to give the sticker idiots the attention which they so obviously crave. They are now portraying themselves as victims - not allowed to have an opinion etc etc. Absolutely. Talk about feeding the trolls. Quietly deal with them and send a message to their mates that this behaviour won't be accepted. As has been observed higher profile 'incidents' have passed without any substantial comment from the club, where members of staff have been involved and possible physical harm.
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