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Post by Gaswood on Jun 16, 2022 7:37:36 GMT
Westbrooke is becoming the new Kyle Bennett on here. I’m not in any way suggesting that he has been good, but to suggest he is useless and throw insults at someone who has (to my knowledge) given no bad attitude, trained and been available at all times, and accepted a loan opportunity. The kid has not lived up to our expectations, and Rovers offered him the contract he has, so much as I would like to see him moved on for the betterment of the club / team I do not understand the vitriolic comments made towards him.
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Post by percy on Jun 16, 2022 8:11:51 GMT
Preseason training starts next week, with the 1st friendly a week after at Melksham. Could really do with having a full squad in the doors before Preseason. Otherwise we could be in a similar position to the start of last season, with players missing out. That then took us 4 months to get going. Don't think we can afford to give League 1 that much of a head start can we? Some of last seasons pre seasons issues were due to Covid and it took some players a while to recover from that and then get up to speed. Of course Covid an still impact fitness etc as it has not gone away. Agreed. Not comparable. Evo came in right at the end of the window and he did ok! Would like to see a CB or two in the building but also happy to start with Kilgour and Anderton in friendlies if we are waiting for Taylor and Connolly to come back!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 16, 2022 8:54:47 GMT
Joey has built a really strong nucleus of squad which will be more than able to compete in Div 1; probably only need to off load Westbrooke. Bring in two centre backs, bring back Thomas or similar; the key purchase, will be at least one goal machine, a number 9 striker who will score 20 plus goals, and be able to bring other players into play.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 16, 2022 10:56:04 GMT
How did Westbrooke go from being a promising young player in a good Coventry side to a player who struggled to get in the side of a relegation threatened Stevenage in such short time? I still think there’s obviously a good player there somewhere, but I can’t see him finding any form again with us.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jun 16, 2022 11:43:19 GMT
Do we have a gaschat forum squad list. Number of members, anyone left, any new signings, anyone you'd like released? (Don't answer that) Sorry, its warm and the local shop has run out of magnums, not happy
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Post by GasAttacK on Jun 16, 2022 15:11:45 GMT
There will obviously be additions but as things stand:
------------------Belshaw--------------------
Hoole------Kilgour-------Anderton------Clarke
-----------Coutts---------Finley-------------
Anderson-----------Evans-------------Saunders
------------------Collins--------------------
SUBS: Jaakkola, Grant, Rodman, Westbrooke, Loft
I'm sure we'll be doing everything possible to get Westbrooke a move so hopefully, we can cross him off, and Rodman might prefer to go as his first-team opportunities are likely to be very limited.
Take those out and we're 4 players short of a decent 18. At least 3 of those 4 will need to be better than we already have if we're to finish mid-table upwards.
Priorities: CB, CB, and AM / ST, depending on where JB sees Collins playing this season.
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Post by RD on Jun 16, 2022 15:26:49 GMT
How did Westbrooke go from being a promising young player in a good Coventry side to a player who struggled to get in the side of a relegation threatened Stevenage in such short time? I still think there’s obviously a good player there somewhere, but I can’t see him finding any form again with us. I beg to differ and believe that's the biggest mistake - people are assuming there's a good player in there; there isn't - he's absolute sh*te.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 16, 2022 17:48:18 GMT
Rodman has been picking up a wage for years and playing about 3 games before getting injured.
He’s knocking on now, I doubt he will feature at all
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 16, 2022 18:51:19 GMT
To say there's still 6.5 weeks to go not looking too shabby, I'd only say we need to move Westbrooke on, to free up a bit more room in the SCMP budget. Rodman won't be earning huge money and is undoubtedly a good squad member. What a change it makes to have a summer of relative stability and continuity. UTG What makes you think Rodman won't be earning good money, given his age and L1 experience I'd imagine he's on a decent L1 contract, likewise Jaakola has probably also got a decent contract. with Westbrooke probably a top earner. JB would probably like to replace those 3 with 3, or even 4, quality L1 players.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jun 16, 2022 20:12:20 GMT
To say there's still 6.5 weeks to go not looking too shabby, I'd only say we need to move Westbrooke on, to free up a bit more room in the SCMP budget. Rodman won't be earning huge money and is undoubtedly a good squad member. What a change it makes to have a summer of relative stability and continuity. UTG What makes you think Rodman won't be earning good money, given his age and L1 experience I'd imagine he's on a decent L1 contract, likewise Jaakola has probably also got a decent contract. with Westbrooke probably a top earner. JB would probably like to replace those 3 with 3, or even 4, quality L1 players. I said huge money...
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 16, 2022 21:56:40 GMT
What makes you think Rodman won't be earning good money, given his age and L1 experience I'd imagine he's on a decent L1 contract, likewise Jaakola has probably also got a decent contract. with Westbrooke probably a top earner. JB would probably like to replace those 3 with 3, or even 4, quality L1 players. I said huge money... Does it matter if it's huge or good, if he stays he will still be taking an L1 wage, which JB could use elsewhere.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jun 17, 2022 20:02:50 GMT
Does it matter if it's huge or good, if he stays he will still be taking an L1 wage, which JB could use elsewhere. Agreed, however if he is under contract, bitching and moaning about it won't do us any good 😉
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Post by playtowin on Jun 18, 2022 7:24:23 GMT
So we still need replacements for.
Luke Thomas Elliot Anderson Glen Whelan Sam Nicholson
In the midfield area.
Replacement upfront for
Leon Clarke Sion Spence
Replacements in defence for
Cian Harries Connor Taylor James ConnOlly
So if the Luke McCormick rumour has any grounds thats one of the LT/EA/SN positions filled .
Lot of recruiting to be done it seems.
I suspect 3 maybe 4 will be loan signings.
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Post by gassedOut on Jun 18, 2022 16:40:10 GMT
Will try and update as we go, let me know if anyone missing... Keepers - Belshaw - Jaakkola (triggered 1 year tbc) - Ward Defenders - Hoole - Anderton - Kilgour - Clarke (extended) - Grant - Rodman (triggered 1 year tbc) - Egan (pro deal) - Heal (6mth deal) Midfielders - Finley - Evans (new contract) - Coutts (triggered 1 year tbc) - Westbrooke - H.Anderson - Jones - Edwards Strikers - Collins - Loft - Saunders - Greenslade (pro deal) Edwards?
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Post by bidefordgas on Jun 18, 2022 17:02:38 GMT
Will try and update as we go, let me know if anyone missing... Keepers - Belshaw - Jaakkola (triggered 1 year tbc) - Ward Defenders - Hoole - Anderton - Kilgour - Clarke (extended) - Grant - Rodman (triggered 1 year tbc) - Egan (pro deal) - Heal (6mth deal) Midfielders - Finley - Evans (new contract) - Coutts (triggered 1 year tbc) - Westbrooke - H.Anderson - Jones - Edwards Strikers - Collins - Loft - Saunders - Greenslade (pro deal) Edwards? Max Edwards- Stryjewski to give him his full name. Club number 52
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 18, 2022 17:53:57 GMT
Westbrooke is becoming the new Kyle Bennett on here. I’m not in any way suggesting that he has been good, but to suggest he is useless and throw insults at someone who has (to my knowledge) given no bad attitude, trained and been available at all times, and accepted a loan opportunity. The kid has not lived up to our expectations, and Rovers offered him the contract he has, so much as I would like to see him moved on for the betterment of the club / team I do not understand the vitriolic comments made towards him. Perhaps if he appeared to put some effort in when he plays it would help? I thought Sercombe was a poor at tackling but Westbrooke takes it to a whole new level.
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Post by Gaswood on Jun 18, 2022 18:41:15 GMT
Westbrooke is becoming the new Kyle Bennett on here. I’m not in any way suggesting that he has been good, but to suggest he is useless and throw insults at someone who has (to my knowledge) given no bad attitude, trained and been available at all times, and accepted a loan opportunity. The kid has not lived up to our expectations, and Rovers offered him the contract he has, so much as I would like to see him moved on for the betterment of the club / team I do not understand the vitriolic comments made towards him. Perhaps if he appeared to put some effort in when he plays it would help? I thought Sercombe was a poor at tackling but Westbrooke takes it to a whole new level. I never saw a lack of effort from him in the games he played the season before last, I just saw a player that was making mistakes, not delivering as expected, and was lacking confidence as a result. He is definitely not a tough tackler, but I don’t think he was brought in with that as a quality of his game. He played well in a few games, but was poor in the majority of them. I genuinely didn’t see a lack of effort there. I also liked Sercs when he was with us and was sad to see him leave, so if you didn’t rate Liam then we obviously see things differently, which is the joy of football.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jun 18, 2022 19:48:49 GMT
Perhaps if he appeared to put some effort in when he plays it would help? I thought Sercombe was a poor at tackling but Westbrooke takes it to a whole new level. I never saw a lack of effort from him in the games he played the season before last, I just saw a player that was making mistakes, not delivering as expected, and was lacking confidence as a result. He is definitely not a tough tackler, but I don’t think he was brought in with that as a quality of his game. He played well in a few games, but was poor in the majority of them. I genuinely didn’t see a lack of effort there. I also liked Sercs when he was with us and was sad to see him leave, so if you didn’t rate Liam then we obviously see things differently, which is the joy of football. Westbrooke simply isn't physically up to playing lower league mens football, something we should've easily spotted before giving him a 3 year deal; unfortunately the bloke who signed him had never kicked a ball professionally himself.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 18, 2022 20:02:27 GMT
Perhaps if he appeared to put some effort in when he plays it would help? I thought Sercombe was a poor at tackling but Westbrooke takes it to a whole new level. I never saw a lack of effort from him in the games he played the season before last, I just saw a player that was making mistakes, not delivering as expected, and was lacking confidence as a result. He is definitely not a tough tackler, but I don’t think he was brought in with that as a quality of his game. He played well in a few games, but was poor in the majority of them. I genuinely didn’t see a lack of effort there. I also liked Sercs when he was with us and was sad to see him leave, so if you didn’t rate Liam then we obviously see things differently, which is the joy of football. Suggesting Sercs wasn't a good tackler doesn't mean I didn't rate him as a CM, I can't recall ever seeing a Rovers CM player recently who's simply incapable of making any type of tackle.
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Post by pirate on Jun 18, 2022 21:21:20 GMT
I never saw a lack of effort from him in the games he played the season before last, I just saw a player that was making mistakes, not delivering as expected, and was lacking confidence as a result. He is definitely not a tough tackler, but I don’t think he was brought in with that as a quality of his game. He played well in a few games, but was poor in the majority of them. I genuinely didn’t see a lack of effort there. I also liked Sercs when he was with us and was sad to see him leave, so if you didn’t rate Liam then we obviously see things differently, which is the joy of football. Westbrooke simply isn't physically up to playing lower league mens football, something we should've easily spotted before giving him a 3 year deal; unfortunately the bloke who signed him had never kicked a ball professionally himself. The bloke who really signed him played professionally in the Prem for Southampton. The same bloke who scouted him for Coventry before he signed there. The bloke who never kicked a ball professionally actually wanted Ebou Adams (and the striker Pigott who would score 20 that season), but club wouldn't/couldn't do a deal.
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