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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 4, 2023 8:31:03 GMT
Does this mean any new ground will now have to be made of wood. The last time we had a wooden stand it burnt down sending loads of polluting smoke into the atmosphere. Dale is building a so called green wooden stadium for his club, destroying countryside and chopping down thousands of trees to build it, like many of these greens he is just a hypocrite. New stadiums made of wood need to be fireproof somehow don’t they? Treated so that they won’t go up in flames. Otherwise they’ll never get past planning or the FA.
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Feb 4, 2023 8:41:37 GMT
Wonder if a Green-majority planning committee would prevent or encourage a sporting and leisure development in an optimum location?
Close to a newly developed transport hub, next to the reconfigured main railway station in Bristol and in a walking-distance location for many.
Would the nearby rapidly developing Bristol University campus and the massive residential high-rise community being constructed in the vicinity be key stakeholders?
Outline planning permission within the next year for some aspects of the overall area would be beneficial but not necessary.
Is the grass always greener on the other side?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 8:49:00 GMT
Perhaps if the dream is ever realised of becoming the last professional FC to get new facilities we can make one out of wood, in the same way Stale Mince at FGR is wanting. The new FGR stadium will be next to the motorway. Seems to ignore carbon footprint of travel. Current ground carbon neutral but fails to mention cars pumping out fumes stuck in his car park. Whether you agree with the potential fruit market or not you'd hope the greens would back a stadium that is public transport friendly Haven't the plans for that stadium stalled due to the site having found to have some kind of ancient artefacts underground putting the planning on thin ice? There was something in the Gloucestershire Gazzette about it, iv'e moved from Glos now so not sure how things are or aren't progressing. Agree about the pollution, I would imagine Vince will point to the big picture and electric cars. I wouldn't put it past him to tell fans what cars are acceptable on site!
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Post by miltongas on Feb 4, 2023 8:51:10 GMT
Worth pointing out that Green have been the majority in Brighton for a long long time and the Amex isn’t a wooden stadium It also isn't in Brighton... The Greens certainly don't control Lewes. The stadium is in Falmer which is in Brighton and Hove’s unitary authority. Lewes controls land that is beside it and is now the car park area. It was Lewes council that raised all kinds of objections that I recall and the government had to step in eventually to grant permission. I remember the drama as I was at Sussex Uni at the time and a couple of good friends were avid Brighton fans.
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Post by miltongas on Feb 4, 2023 8:54:01 GMT
It has to be observed that a change of party probably won’t make any difference. We’ve been back in Bristol for nearly 30 years and haven’t made any genuine progress regardless of which party is in power.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 4, 2023 8:54:15 GMT
Seems it's Green Football Day.Vale players picking up plastic bottles and Crewe applied for planning permission to build a solar energy farm on their car park.Not sure how that will work but they do have a Gi Normous car park.
A football club has revealed plans for a 3,000-panel solar farm with the aim of becoming carbon negative in the future.
Crewe Alexandra said the panels would be installed above spaces at their existing car park on Gresty Road.
The club will borrow "a significant amount" of money to fund the scheme, but has not revealed how much.
The energy from the panels could power the stadium or be sold to bring in cash, director Tony Davison said.
He described the investment by the Alex as their "largest in more than two decades" and said the nearby community would benefit as well.
"It will improve the provision of electric car charging points in the area, which will be available for use by local residents," Mr Davison said.
A planning application has been submitted to Cheshire East Council and the club will hold a consultation event at the stadium on Saturday.
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 4, 2023 9:16:36 GMT
No such thing I’m afraid. Look at the emodied carbon of your average roll or sheet of insulation, it’s horrific. It never pays back. Construction will never be carbon neutral. That’s not the point. The point is to morally grandstand and audit others and thus you have a bona Fide legitimate reason to harass and bully people. Stay the f out of that discussion here. I worried about it until I realised people who sit around online trying to be unpleasant to people are clearly not happy and well adjusted people, so although you might get teamed on it, in the end you’re the winner when you put the phone down :-) Sorry for my confusion, but not sure anyone is bullying anyone.
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Post by Gaswood on Feb 4, 2023 9:21:07 GMT
Worth pointing out that Green have been the majority in Brighton for a long long time and the Amex isn’t a wooden stadium It also isn't in Brighton... The Greens certainly don't control Lewes. Ah, you mean the car park? “Planning permission was given by the unitary authority of Brighton and Hove City Council. The plans for the stadium were opposed by neighbouring Lewes District Council and local residents. While the stadium lies completely within Brighton and Hove, part of the north-east of the site is in Lewes. Bennet's Field, as it is known, is now used for parking.”
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Post by playtowin on Feb 4, 2023 9:26:17 GMT
Is Brighton & H.A.'s stadium one of those soul-less out of town stadiums. That will never work .
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 4, 2023 10:50:44 GMT
Seems it's Green Football Day.Vale players picking up plastic bottles and Crewe applied for planning permission to build a solar energy farm on their car park.Not sure how that will work but they do have a Gi Normous car park. A football club has revealed plans for a 3,000-panel solar farm with the aim of becoming carbon negative in the future. Crewe Alexandra said the panels would be installed above spaces at their existing car park on Gresty Road. The club will borrow "a significant amount" of money to fund the scheme, but has not revealed how much. The energy from the panels could power the stadium or be sold to bring in cash, director Tony Davison said. He described the investment by the Alex as their "largest in more than two decades" and said the nearby community would benefit as well. "It will improve the provision of electric car charging points in the area, which will be available for use by local residents," Mr Davison said. A planning application has been submitted to Cheshire East Council and the club will hold a consultation event at the stadium on Saturday. They are doing something similar in France: www.cittimagazine.co.uk/comment/frances-plan-for-solar-panels-on-all-car-parks-is-just-the-start-of-an-urban-renewable-revolution.html
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Post by CrispPusher on Feb 4, 2023 11:24:16 GMT
It also isn't in Brighton... The Greens certainly don't control Lewes. Ah, you mean the car park? “Planning permission was given by the unitary authority of Brighton and Hove City Council. The plans for the stadium were opposed by neighbouring Lewes District Council and local residents. While the stadium lies completely within Brighton and Hove, part of the north-east of the site is in Lewes. Bennet's Field, as it is known, is now used for parking.” Sorry but Falmer still isn't in Brighton 😂 Were the Greens in power when planning permission was obtained?
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Post by Gaswood on Feb 4, 2023 11:40:56 GMT
Ah, you mean the car park? “Planning permission was given by the unitary authority of Brighton and Hove City Council. The plans for the stadium were opposed by neighbouring Lewes District Council and local residents. While the stadium lies completely within Brighton and Hove, part of the north-east of the site is in Lewes. Bennet's Field, as it is known, is now used for parking.” Sorry but Falmer still isn't in Brighton 😂 Were the Greens in power when planning permission was obtained? No, only a month or so before it opened 🤣
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 4, 2023 16:48:30 GMT
That’s not the point. The point is to morally grandstand and audit others and thus you have a bona Fide legitimate reason to harass and bully people. Stay the f out of that discussion here. I worried about it until I realised people who sit around online trying to be unpleasant to people are clearly not happy and well adjusted people, so although you might get teamed on it, in the end you’re the winner when you put the phone down :-) Sorry for my confusion, but not sure anyone is bullying anyone. Forum bullying denier
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Post by syg on Feb 4, 2023 17:13:48 GMT
Seems it's Green Football Day.Vale players picking up plastic bottles and Crewe applied for planning permission to build a solar energy farm on their car park.Not sure how that will work but they do have a Gi Normous car park. A football club has revealed plans for a 3,000-panel solar farm with the aim of becoming carbon negative in the future. Crewe Alexandra said the panels would be installed above spaces at their existing car park on Gresty Road. The club will borrow "a significant amount" of money to fund the scheme, but has not revealed how much. The energy from the panels could power the stadium or be sold to bring in cash, director Tony Davison said. He described the investment by the Alex as their "largest in more than two decades" and said the nearby community would benefit as well. "It will improve the provision of electric car charging points in the area, which will be available for use by local residents," Mr Davison said. A planning application has been submitted to Cheshire East Council and the club will hold a consultation event at the stadium on Saturday. They are doing something similar in France: www.cittimagazine.co.uk/comment/frances-plan-for-solar-panels-on-all-car-parks-is-just-the-start-of-an-urban-renewable-revolution.htmlThey are picking up on new legislation in France were carparks over a certain number of spaces are all to be equipped with solar panels. The energy fig calculation is staggering. The Greens would love to have a sustainable stadium to their name, I think it increases the likelihood of a stadium.
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Post by heartofgas on Feb 4, 2023 18:21:25 GMT
The green party aren't opposed to new building, just prefer it to be sustainable and carbon neutral. You'd have to be a climate change denier to see a problem with that, surely? It will make a stadium in Bristol much more unlikely and any build cost a whole lot more. I think Bristol will have a rude awakening if the greens get any control. As for climate change, we'll all be fine, were not doomed and life will just carry on. and if it isn't there is nothing we in the UK can do to stop it.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 4, 2023 18:35:02 GMT
There are some perspectives here which give you an idea of the green’s view on things. One common theme is “degrowth”. “ In contrast to most Green New Deals, degrowth formulates active policies to achieve a selective downscaling and de-accumulation of those economic activities that cannot be made sustainable, contribute little use values, or are superfluous consumption – and these include things like advertising, planned obsolescence, ‘bullshit jobs’, private planes, or fossil fuel and defence industries.” It will be interesting to see what our local dictators deem our stadium to be in terms of value. I’m pretty sure they will envisage themselves being the ones deciding this, rather than us. theecologist.org/2022/jun/28/degrowth-not-just-green-new-dealsThe article references their opponents as being “neo fascists” so be careful to avoid opposing it. Good luck with that Wael!
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 4, 2023 19:41:03 GMT
Sorry for my confusion, but not sure anyone is bullying anyone. Forum bullying denier That made me laugh. 🙂 Still don't think anyone is being bullied, but I'm not the brightest button.
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Post by aghast on Feb 4, 2023 22:38:27 GMT
The green party aren't opposed to new building, just prefer it to be sustainable and carbon neutral. You'd have to be a climate change denier to see a problem with that, surely? It will make a stadium in Bristol much more unlikely and any build cost a whole lot more. I think Bristol will have a rude awakening if the greens get any control. As for climate change, we'll all be fine, were not doomed and life will just carry on. and if it isn't there is nothing we in the UK can do to stop it. The Martians said that 10 million years ago and look at them now.
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Post by orgasmic on Feb 5, 2023 6:34:38 GMT
That’s not strictly true. They also want to decide the usage of the building. When Sainsburys applied for pp on the Mem site the Green MP for the area and the Green Councillor both told me that they were anti capitalist and that was the driver behind not wanting Sainsburys. A number of their supporters shared the same story. The plan was to stop the development by any means necessary as they didn’t approve of supermarket chains. Horrible people who are totally opposed to democracy. Didn’t stop anything though did it? As planning permission was granted regardless of the evil little green men and women… They weren’t keen on airport expansion either and that’s been rubber stamped this week. Surely by now people know it doesn’t matter who sits in the big seat at the council, they aren’t in charge of planning decisions. Planning decisions we’ve never been on the wrong end of. If we make an application for a stadium in any local authority and it complies with all policy it will gain permission regardless of who’s in charge. Being able to pay for it however… Well actually the delays they caused through appeals etc meant that the change in approach from big supermarkets to smaller ones had taken hold with Sainsburys then pulling out. Without their constant delays it would have in all likelihood gone through.
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Post by pirate on Feb 5, 2023 9:20:24 GMT
It has to be observed that a change of party probably won’t make any difference. We’ve been back in Bristol for nearly 30 years and haven’t made any genuine progress regardless of which party is in power. Which party in the last 30 years has actually refused us permission?
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