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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 21, 2015 17:00:50 GMT
Port Vale manager:
“I just thought it was good business sense to get the full wages recovered from Bristol Rovers and get Tommy O’Sullivan in. He has just as much quality but cost far less from a wages point of view.”
Looks like we may be forking out a tidy sum, understandable as it may be given our current position. I would hope we don't go back to our overspending ways after this season, whatever division we are in. We get big enough crowds to budget to breakeven rather than irresponsibly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 17:19:02 GMT
its a very short term deal to try and add ability to the midfield especially with sinclair injured,,,if he was to come to us permanent im pretty sure it wont be on his present salary.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 21, 2015 17:53:26 GMT
Odd we got rid of him because we couldn't afford his Div 1 wages in Div 2 now we're paying them whilst we're in the Conference! Still surprised we're having to pay his full wages as surely PV would have been prepared to contribute something.
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Post by LJG on Apr 21, 2015 18:17:06 GMT
Is he paid per kick or something? Is that why Clark told the defence not to let him get a touch on the ball last Saturday?
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 21, 2015 22:12:06 GMT
glad someone else spotted this and flagged it up.
I was a bit surprised when I read it.
But as someone else said, it's a short-term fix to try to get us over the line at our first attempt, and everyone seems happy with it. PV let someone go back to his home town and family for a while, we get ex-player who knows the place/stadium, can hit the ground running, and seems happy to be in Bristol.
BTW - I'm not saying the manager is telling porkies or stretching the truth but I wouldn't trust anyone in football these days.
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Post by Strange Gas on Apr 22, 2015 5:40:37 GMT
"If you wants stay here, better make sure we go up" should motivate him, and he's gas through and through so won't be hard! But remember he isn't our only pricey player. Mildly and Ellis must both be on good L2 wedge? And prob parkes and macca as well. I wonder if many of the post Relegation contracts signed are sustainable for us in conf?
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Post by gashead22 on Apr 22, 2015 6:48:23 GMT
"If you wants stay here, better make sure we go up" should motivate him, and he's gas through and through so won't be hard! But remember he isn't our only pricey player. Mildly and Ellis must both be on good L2 wedge? And prob parkes and macca as well. I wonder if many of the post Relegation contracts signed are sustainable for us in conf? Not sure Ellis will be on much? Unproven when he signed a contract with us, going from a youth player wage to a low league 2 wage I imagine. Mildy, McChrystal, Parkes and maybe Brown will be on a whack though I would imagine. If we don't go up, hardest thing will be trying to keep our defence together on sustainable wages or rebuild a whole new one. |
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Post by Severncider on Apr 22, 2015 7:22:52 GMT
"If you wants stay here, better make sure we go up" should motivate him, and he's gas through and through so won't be hard! But remember he isn't our only pricey player. Mildly and Ellis must both be on good L2 wedge? And prob parkes and macca as well. I wonder if many of the post Relegation contracts signed are sustainable for us in conf? Not sure Ellis will be on much? Unproven when he signed a contract with us, going from a youth player wage to a low league 2 wage I imagine. Mildy, McChrystal, Parkes and maybe Brown will be on a whack though I would imagine. If we don't go up, hardest thing will be trying to keep our defence together on sustainable wages or rebuild a whole new one.The problem will be who will be Chairman next season, as NH want's out and his source of funds will cease. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 22, 2015 8:05:28 GMT
Not sure Ellis will be on much? Unproven when he signed a contract with us, going from a youth player wage to a low league 2 wage I imagine. Mildy, McChrystal, Parkes and maybe Brown will be on a whack though I would imagine. If we don't go up, hardest thing will be trying to keep our defence together on sustainable wages or rebuild a whole new one.The problem will be who will be Chairman next season, as NH want's out and his source of funds will cease. Do you think he'd just abandon us in the Conference when his poor decisions contributed to us being here in the first place? |
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Post by supergas on Apr 22, 2015 8:19:05 GMT
The problem will be who will be Chairman next season, as NH want's out and his source of funds will cease. Do you think he'd just abandon us in the Conference when his poor decisions contributed to us being here in the first place? Yes. Not a tricky question TBH |
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 22, 2015 8:35:19 GMT
Port Vale manager: “I just thought it was good business sense to get the full wages recovered from Bristol Rovers and get Tommy O’Sullivan in. He has just as much quality but cost far less from a wages point of view.”
Looks like we may be forking out a tidy sum, understandable as it may be given our current position. I would hope we don't go back to our overspending ways after this season, whatever division we are in. We get big enough crowds to budget to breakeven rather than irresponsibly. The crowds don't cover the wages. Even now. We need 8000+ to do that. This is why the UWE is so important, lots more ways to make money |
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 22, 2015 8:43:34 GMT
When we came down from division one all the players took a pay cut. It is in the standard football league contract that relegation costs the players around 15%. So all that we need to cut costs at that time was bollox. Again when we went out of the league they took another whack. Although so many of the teams down here have been here so long they have gone part time so they can get rid of a lot of support staff and cut the playing budget. I'd think we'd be alright next season as I think we would run away with the title, thus generating income. Many years ago my Dad said people will go and watch a winning team no matter what league they are in. He's been proved right
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Post by peterparker on Apr 22, 2015 8:52:29 GMT
Not sure Ellis will be on much? Unproven when he signed a contract with us, going from a youth player wage to a low league 2 wage I imagine. Mildy, McChrystal, Parkes and maybe Brown will be on a whack though I would imagine. If we don't go up, hardest thing will be trying to keep our defence together on sustainable wages or rebuild a whole new one.The problem will be who will be Chairman next season, as NH want's out and his source of funds will cease. But I thought we were mega confident about the stadium, yada, yada, yada |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 22, 2015 8:57:04 GMT
Problem next season is we lose the final £500K of the parachute, the youth team players have already apparently been warned that's probably the end of our youth academy. Plus there's the wonga loan to pay off if we lose the Sainsbury's case or if we win and they then seek an appeal. The next month could be an interesting one for the clubs future.
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 22, 2015 11:17:37 GMT
"If you wants stay here, better make sure we go up" should motivate him, and he's gas through and through so won't be hard! But remember he isn't our only pricey player. Mildly and Ellis must both be on good L2 wedge? And prob parkes and macca as well. I wonder if many of the post Relegation contracts signed are sustainable for us in conf? Not sure Ellis will be on much? Unproven when he signed a contract with us, going from a youth player wage to a low league 2 wage I imagine. Mildy, McChrystal, Parkes and maybe Brown will be on a whack though I would imagine. If we don't go up, hardest thing will be trying to keep our defence together on sustainable wages or rebuild a whole new one. I'd be very happy to lose Macca and Mildy if they are, as suspected, on very high wages. We could get similar quality for half the price probably. At least Parkes is improving all the time, will be worth a transfer fee, is with England C, having the best season of his career etc. Similar for Browner, although I guess we won;t get any money for him as he's out of contract soon and can go with compensation I guess? |
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 22, 2015 11:47:39 GMT
At least the players we would be losing are defenders, which are easier to replace than attacking players. Leadbitter has improved massively after replacing Smudge, for example.
Sinclair on a quarter of the wages of JJOT just shows what can be done without throwing stupid wages around. Mildys wage is 20% of the TV money lost, add in McCrystal and another and with our gates, there wouldn't be much excuse to cut back too much.
Puddy
Leadbitter - Lockyer - new - new
new - Mansell - Sinclair - Monkhouse
Taylor/Harrison/Blisset/Easter
And thats before new signings, really doesn't look too bad. I'd have full confidence in DC winning the league next year.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 22, 2015 12:09:20 GMT
But that's most of the best defence in the Confernece gone and Mansell & Sinclair was hardly the best midfield pairing in the Conference before the latters injury? Anyway surely Brown signed a new 2 year contract last summer so why would he leave unless we were desperate to off load him?
The big problem is the Sainsbury's case outcome/Wonga loan as if dealing with that cuts into the wage budget then the likes of Lockyer & Harrison may have to go?
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Post by Centenary Gas on Apr 22, 2015 12:16:36 GMT
But that's most of the best defence in the Confernece gone and Mansell & Sinclair was hardly the best midfield pairing in the Conference before the latters injury? Anyway surely Brown signed a new 2 year contract last summer so why would he leave unless we were desperate to off load him? The big problem is the Sainsbury's case outcome/Wonga loan as if dealing with that cuts into the wage budget then the likes of Lockyer & Harrison may have to go? Because Brown is easily good enough for higher divisions, and I got the feeling last year that it was likely a "I'll give it a season" type of scenario, could be wrong... DC is very good at putting out organised teams, I would have faith in him bringing in a couple of defenders to give us a similar defensive record next year. Would Trotman really be that bad a replacement for Parkes? He was very good when he came in. We have a young team, and the likes of Taylor/Blisset/Harrison (if he stays) would be much better for their years experience, and providing they get the service, I would be confident in them getting more goals next year. |
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Post by KingswoodGas on Apr 22, 2015 13:47:05 GMT
But that's most of the best defence in the Confernece gone and Mansell & Sinclair was hardly the best midfield pairing in the Conference before the latters injury? Anyway surely Brown signed a new 2 year contract last summer so why would he leave unless we were desperate to off load him? The big problem is the Sainsbury's case outcome/Wonga loan as if dealing with that cuts into the wage budget then the likes of Lockyer & Harrison may have to go? It's also the same defence that got us relegated last year. Brown is on high wages as well and we can easily find a lb who is better than brown for far less money |
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Post by RD on Apr 22, 2015 13:50:55 GMT
But that's most of the best defence in the Confernece gone and Mansell & Sinclair was hardly the best midfield pairing in the Conference before the latters injury? Anyway surely Brown signed a new 2 year contract last summer so why would he leave unless we were desperate to off load him? The big problem is the Sainsbury's case outcome/Wonga loan as if dealing with that cuts into the wage budget then the likes of Lockyer & Harrison may have to go? It's also the same defence that got us relegated last year. Brown is on high wages as well and we can easily find a lb who is better than brown for far less money Have to disagree. Parkes is young and has improved significantly this season. Brown is young too and has also improved; they might be the same players by name, but they're not the same players in terms of talent IMO. |
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