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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jul 9, 2014 13:56:43 GMT
A poor turn out will not justify the boards lack of communication. It will highlight how many fans either 1) are completely disillusioned with the football club 2) are completely disillusioned with those running the football club 3) know that the chairman will give the same answers as he did to the SCor 4) all of the above. Nick Higgs & Co need to publish their review (internal & external), confirm when work on the UWE will start and then put forward the footballing philosphy of the club (including how the business will be financed). At that point, I will consider returning to watch the team I've watched for 37 years. Oh yes, and sack the FD for not having planned for relegation! Apart from that, all is ok!!! My question covers the finance director Oh go on then i'll ask - what is your question?
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Post by RD on Jul 9, 2014 14:18:24 GMT
A poor turn out will not justify the boards lack of communication. It will highlight how many fans either 1) are completely disillusioned with the football club 2) are completely disillusioned with those running the football club 3) know that the chairman will give the same answers as he did to the SCor 4) all of the above. Nick Higgs & Co need to publish their review (internal & external), confirm when work on the UWE will start and then put forward the footballing philosphy of the club (including how the business will be financed). At that point, I will consider returning to watch the team I've watched for 37 years. Oh yes, and sack the FD for not having planned for relegation! Apart from that, all is ok!!! My question covers the finance director So does mine - I posted it the other day: Dear Mr Higgs,
If you take the first initial of our finance director's forename and the first three letters of his surname, it spells 'TWAT'; do you believe that this is simply coincidence?
Regards,
RD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 14:21:07 GMT
Dammit RD I only just recycled that joke!
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Post by bs10er on Jul 9, 2014 14:34:30 GMT
I was also told that by Monday pm there had only been 40 odd applying. This I felt was very bad after all the moaning and groaning going on,so I hope all the spaces have now been filled. I have had a e-mail to confirm attendance. My question was not that great,but I assumed others would ask the obvious questions. Mine was; Have the board considered involving the supporters in the choosing the football kit and other merchandise? Not brilliant I know!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 14:37:44 GMT
Anything that gets the Board and fans working together is a good thing BS10er.
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Post by RD on Jul 9, 2014 14:59:12 GMT
Dammit RD I only just recycled that joke! Haha - you thief!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 15:35:25 GMT
I was also told that by Monday pm there had only been 40 odd applying. This I felt was very bad after all the moaning and groaning going on,so I hope all the spaces have now been filled. I have had a e-mail to confirm attendance. My question was not that great,but I assumed others would ask the obvious questions. Mine was; Have the board considered involving the supporters in the choosing the football kit and other merchandise? Not brilliant I know!! I think the very first part of your question is actually quite brilliant "Have the Board considered involving the supporters in..."
PS I also think the end part is relevant as it is supporters who purchase the kit and other items.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 15:42:20 GMT
My question covers the finance director Oh go on then i'll ask - what is your question? Just that after the finance director revealed he had not planned financially for our relegation and his disclosure that we would not break even without gates of 9500, does he maintain the full support of the board. I elt a good question to get the audience involved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 16:14:17 GMT
Somewhat confused. If you are angry and want answers there is one way to do that - go to this live forum. It really is that simple. If you don't think questions were answered, then complain further. This is the opportunity / solution they've provided - so try it. Judge it as and when. I appreciate what you are saying but I can't say this without it sounding patronising. I'll just say it as it is. When you have had over 40 + years of it then it clouds your perspective and you get ground down by it. You are a young man in comparison to many of us and have the idealism that comes with that. I hope you remain that way after 20 or so more years. I wish it were as simple as your paint it out to be.
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Post by fanboy on Jul 9, 2014 16:48:21 GMT
Somewhat confused. If you are angry and want answers there is one way to do that - go to this live forum. It really is that simple. If you don't think questions were answered, then complain further. This is the opportunity / solution they've provided - so try it. Judge it as and when. I appreciate what you are saying but I can't say this without it sounding patronising. I'll just say it as it is. When you have had over 40 + years of it then it clouds your perspective and you get ground down by it. You are a young man in comparison to many of us and have the idealism that comes with that. I hope you remain that way after 20 or so more years. I wish it were as simple as your paint it out to be. All of the stuff you say on here is all well and good but why do you not take this to the board? There is no better way of getting answers than by standing in front of them and asking the questions. This is the first of their ideas to try get rid of the gap between fans and board, it would be silly not take it since it's been complained about so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 16:59:25 GMT
I appreciate what you are saying but I can't say this without it sounding patronising. I'll just say it as it is. When you have had over 40 + years of it then it clouds your perspective and you get ground down by it. You are a young man in comparison to many of us and have the idealism that comes with that. I hope you remain that way after 20 or so more years. I wish it were as simple as your paint it out to be. All of the stuff you say on here is all well and good but why do you not take this to the board? There is no better way of getting answers than by standing in front of them and asking the questions. This is the first of their ideas to try get rid of the gap between fans and board, it would be silly not take it since it's been complained about so much. You are missing the point. I have been to meetings before and NOTHING that has been said persuaded me that this will be any different. The questions wanted before so that they will have stock answers. If they at least have one poxy hour open to the floor then I would be there. This is another very contrived set up. I won't be following any twitter feed either. It's obvious the board are not going to take responsibility and that would be the bear minimum I would expect as a starting point. Apparently it's ALL John Wards fault. How can anyone take them seriously when the finance director comes out with sh** that we were only in the relegation spot for 70 minutes ? Come on.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 9, 2014 17:06:34 GMT
From what markcz says I though Higgs was allowing follow up questions. KP, what's the alternative?
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Post by inee on Jul 9, 2014 17:20:38 GMT
I would love to go but cant for similar reasons to kp, thing is theres only so many times you can bang your head against a brick wall before it does lasting damage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 17:22:56 GMT
From what markcz says I though Higgs was allowing follow up questions. KP, what's the alternative? The alternative is not an option?
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Post by bs10er on Jul 9, 2014 17:53:05 GMT
I am sorry but I find it hard to accept some peoples excuses for not going(and I of course exclude those too far away or are unable to attend for genuine reasons). As I said on the other forum,there are plenty of people who do not seem to have one good word to say about Rovers,it is constant complaints,moans etc. I do wonder why they join a football forum sometimes,they almost appear not to be supporters of the club. Talk about depressing!
Lack of communication-agreed. In which case a Q&A is at least one step forward isn't it? Okay,it may not be perfect on the night,we will have to wait and see about that. And I have been supporting the Gas since the 60's so I am not some innocent new,young supporter,unawares of the fall of our football club down the leagues(and out!!)
Anyone who went to the SC EGM will know that too many questions were put forward,leaving no time at all to discuss any issues that came up. I only hope that the questions are limited to,say 20 max and that will leave us all plenty of time to push the Board if needed. That is why I am going along on the night,instead of relying on twitter,forums,etc.
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Post by markczgas on Jul 9, 2014 18:50:56 GMT
I am sorry but I find it hard to accept some peoples excuses for not going(and I of course exclude those too far away or are unable to attend for genuine reasons). As I said on the other forum,there are plenty of people who do not seem to have one good word to say about Rovers,it is constant complaints,moans etc. I do wonder why they join a football forum sometimes,they almost appear not to be supporters of the club. Talk about depressing! Lack of communication-agreed. In which case a Q&A is at least one step forward isn't it? Okay,it may not be perfect on the night,we will have to wait and see about that. And I have been supporting the Gas since the 60's so I am not some innocent new,young supporter,unawares of the fall of our football club down the leagues(and out!!) Anyone who went to the SC EGM will know that too many questions were put forward,leaving no time at all to discuss any issues that came up. I only hope that the questions are limited to,say 20 max and that will leave us all plenty of time to push the Board if needed. That is why I am going along on the night,instead of relying on twitter,forums,etc. Well said Pat ! It's an opportunity later than many had hoped, but at least it's there and even if you aren't keen to ask follow-up questions you can be rest-assured that some will.
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Post by bs10er on Jul 9, 2014 19:19:00 GMT
Thanks Mark,glad that at least ONE person agrees with me! Its just I am almost sick to death with some so-called Rovers fans who do not seem to be happy unless they can find something to criticise,whatever it may be. Anything as long as it is a moan. I am not a rose tinter(I think),I know the club and its directors have a lot to answer for and we as fans deserve more. To keep harking back years and years is not going to help us as fans or our beloved football club. We all know things have gone wrong for a few seasons now,but we cannot live in the past,time to try and look forward,hopefully put right any mistakes. I do not know how well the Q&A will go,whether it will be a success,whether it will give the fans attending some answers to their questions,but it is I hope, a step forward,lets be honest it cannot get any worse(?) And I will have no qualms about speaking out on the night,I am not the sort to be able to keep her mouth shut! I say what I think,right or wrong. I just hope it is held in a calm fashion and does not become a free for all,with everyone trying to shout others down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:03:23 GMT
The not going because the board will lie posters really mean not going as cant be arsed in my opinion. They will be held to account at this meeting by many strong willed fans. Its so easy to not do anything and then spend months moaning about everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 22:30:33 GMT
The not going because the board will lie posters really mean not going as cant be arsed in my opinion. They will be held to account at this meeting by many strong willed fans. Its so easy to not do anything and then spend months moaning about everything. Let's see if you say the same after Dins. On a personal note, it has nothing to do with can't be arsed. It's all about the contrived set up and in me going to previous Q&A and seeing, hearing the replies and contempt in the manner they were given. I am not a glutton for punishment mate. As I say, I look forward to your posts afterwards. I am at a boxing meet that night so will not be following any twitter feed. I bet you I could, near as damn it , write down now how it will go. I've no need to be psychic for that. EDIT Dins, you know only too well that the club have already told a whopper about a certain released player and yet you believe that somehow they will do a complete 180 and go back on that, really ? We all have our reasons. To suggest it is Black and White is not right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 5:49:46 GMT
I dont believe they will be honest about anything but i believe they need some strong charectors telling them we wont take their nonsense. We need all the big forum charectors their whatever their views to represent us to the club imo
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