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Post by DTGas on Aug 5, 2015 17:44:30 GMT
How many games does Lockyer need to play to get some recognition? Why will he never be a natural fullback? We don't need Leadbitter to attack down the right if there is a winger in front of him. Likewise LB can do some defending this season rather than blowing out his ar5e getting back after doing monkeys job. Wingers is what most have been asking for the last few years, now we have them. First of all, this isn't a dig at Lockyer, I rate him I just don't think he has the atributes to be a 'top 7' fullback for league two. Defensively he's good and he will always puts a shift in but he never looks comfortable going forward, doesn't offer an overlap when the winger looks to go inside and gives possession away too often. I'd prefer him at CB in his natural position and give the lad a chance to fight for a starting place there instead. DC likes him and he will likely pick him on Saturday but if I were to pick I'd give Leadbitter the nod.
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Post by kylegas on Aug 5, 2015 18:25:25 GMT
How many games does Lockyer need to play to get some recognition? Why will he never be a natural fullback? We don't need Leadbitter to attack down the right if there is a winger in front of him. Likewise LB can do some defending this season rather than blowing out his ar5e getting back after doing monkeys job. Wingers is what most have been asking for the last few years, now we have them. First of all, this isn't a dig at Lockyer, I rate him I just don't think he has the atributes to be a 'top 7' fullback for league two. Defensively he's good and he will always puts a shift in but he never looks comfortable going forward, doesn't offer an overlap when the winger looks to go inside and gives possession away too often. I'd prefer him at CB in his natural position and give the lad a chance to fight for a starting place there instead. DC likes him and he will likely pick him on Saturday but if I were to pick I'd give Leadbitter the nod. I agree with this, plus Leadbitter is a RB, and a good one so play him there, Lockyer is a CB so play him there while Macca is injured and let's really see what he can do in his actual position
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 18:33:26 GMT
Hopefully TL can prove himself at CB this year in order to cement a long career with us in that position. Leadbitters pace at the back will be useful. I think he will need to dislodge TL first though...
Talk of a 3 man MF on here. You know that becomes uber defensive for teams that are poor at keeping possession(us), unless we have suddenly changed our style? We will play with banks of 4 and attack down the flanks towards 2 strikers, especially at home. I'll be surprised if it's not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 21:16:03 GMT
Hopefully TL can prove himself at CB this year in order to cement a long career with us in that position. Leadbitters pace at the back will be useful. I think he will need to dislodge TL first though... Talk of a 3 man MF on here. You know that becomes uber defensive for teams that are poor at keeping possession(us), unless we have suddenly changed our style? We will play with banks of 4 and attack down the flanks towards 2 strikers, especially at home. I'll be surprised if it's not. We played a midfield 3 most of the season as Monky was our left sided midfield man and not used as a winger.DC has often commented about not getting outnumbered in midfield so our starting 11 will usually include 3 designated midfield lads.If Manse is not fit I wouldn't be surprised if Ollie Clarke started v Northampton.Another possibility would be to use Gos in the left midfield role and Monty on the right wing but it's usually difficult to second guess DC as he does like to try and surprise the opposition with different formations and different players to suit those formations.Hes a crafty young fox our DC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 21:47:56 GMT
I must have watched a different team to you then. I seen us go with 433 a couple of times only.
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Post by KingswoodGas on Aug 5, 2015 21:59:56 GMT
Hopefully TL can prove himself at CB this year in order to cement a long career with us in that position. Leadbitters pace at the back will be useful. I think he will need to dislodge TL first though... Talk of a 3 man MF on here. You know that becomes uber defensive for teams that are poor at keeping possession(us), unless we have suddenly changed our style? We will play with banks of 4 and attack down the flanks towards 2 strikers, especially at home. I'll be surprised if it's not. We played a midfield 3 most of the season as Monky was our left sided midfield man and not used as a winger.DC has often commented about not getting outnumbered in midfield so our starting 11 will usually include 3 designated midfield lads.If Manse is not fit I wouldn't be surprised if Ollie Clarke started v Northampton.Another possibility would be to use Gos in the left midfield role and Monty on the right wing but it's usually difficult to second guess DC as he does like to try and surprise the opposition with different formations and different players to suit those formations.Hes a crafty young fox our DC. I hope Ollie Clarke is kept as far away from the team as possible as i dont even think he is good enough to start for Mangotsfield
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 22:18:43 GMT
I must have watched a different team to you then. I seen us go with 433 a couple of times only. Well Monky played 40 odd games and he had 2 midfield chaps alongside so if you don't think Monky played as a left side midfielder then we probably did watch a different team.
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Post by britishgas on Aug 5, 2015 23:49:39 GMT
In that Points West piece DC's flipboard had a 4-4-2 diamond with Sinclair behind the strikers. I'd be interested in seeing that as it gets Mansell, Lines and The Beard on the pitch at the same time, which we can only otherwise do in a 4-3-3 which in turn doesn't suit any of our strikers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 7:02:25 GMT
I must have watched a different team to you then. I seen us go with 433 a couple of times only. Well Monky played 40 odd games and he had 2 midfield chaps alongside so if you don't think Monky played as a left side midfielder then we probably did watch a different team. Not sure why you keep mentioning monkhouse? Yes he was LM, yes he had 2CMs alongside him usually 2 of SS, LM, OC or CL. But we almost always had a RM. Take your pick from Gos, Dawson, LDV, Balanta, and I think TL played there once or twice. We only played with 3 strikers on a couple of occasions and I can't recall going 352 at all?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 7:07:09 GMT
Well Monky played 40 odd games and he had 2 midfield chaps alongside so if you don't think Monky played as a left side midfielder then we probably did watch a different team. Not sure why you keep mentioning monkhouse? Yes he was LM, yes he had 2CMs alongside him usually 2 of SS, LM, OC or CL. But we almost always had a RM. Take your pick from Gos, Dawson, LDV, Balanta, and I think TL played there once or twice. We only played with 3 strikers on a couple of occasions and I can't recall going 352 at all? Fairly sure I can recall a couple of games where we switched to 3 at the back last year when chasing a goal.
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Post by DTGas on Aug 6, 2015 7:11:48 GMT
Lincoln away was one
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Post by Russgas on Aug 6, 2015 7:12:27 GMT
Not sure why you keep mentioning monkhouse? Yes he was LM, yes he had 2CMs alongside him usually 2 of SS, LM, OC or CL. But we almost always had a RM. Take your pick from Gos, Dawson, LDV, Balanta, and I think TL played there once or twice. We only played with 3 strikers on a couple of occasions and I can't recall going 352 at all? Fairly sure I can recall a couple of games where we switched to 3 at the back last year when chasing a goal. Braintree at home and Eastleigh away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 7:15:11 GMT
Yes but did we start any games with 3 at back? I know he changed things during the game here n there but I'm saying we began pretty much every game as 442.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 7:17:29 GMT
Yes but did we start any games with 3 at back? I know he changed things during the game here n there but I'm saying we began pretty much every game as 442. Yeah, I can't remember us starting anything other than 442
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Post by DTGas on Aug 6, 2015 7:21:15 GMT
Lincoln is the only one I think, remember monkhouse starting up front too that game
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 6, 2015 7:26:05 GMT
Yes but did we start any games with 3 at back? I know he changed things during the game here n there but I'm saying we began pretty much every game as 442. Lincoln Away.
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Post by Russgas on Aug 6, 2015 7:28:15 GMT
Yes but did we start any games with 3 at back? I know he changed things during the game here n there but I'm saying we began pretty much every game as 442. Yeah, I can't remember us starting anything other than 442 Pretty much every game apart from at Dover 4-3-3 . Harrison,Blissett and Taylor up front.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 6, 2015 7:50:30 GMT
The only time I can recall DC starting with 3 at the back was Mansfield the season before and what a disaster that was.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 14:35:33 GMT
Well Monky played 40 odd games and he had 2 midfield chaps alongside so if you don't think Monky played as a left side midfielder then we probably did watch a different team. Not sure why you keep mentioning monkhouse? Yes he was LM, yes he had 2CMs alongside him usually 2 of SS, LM, OC or CL. But we almost always had a RM. Take your pick from Gos, Dawson, LDV, Balanta, and I think TL played there once or twice. We only played with 3 strikers on a couple of occasions and I can't recall going 352 at all? Forget it,it's my fault I thought you were saying we only played 2 in midfield and my Monkhouse comments were to say we always played with 3 or more midfielders so sorry about that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 16:02:04 GMT
Not sure why you keep mentioning monkhouse? Yes he was LM, yes he had 2CMs alongside him usually 2 of SS, LM, OC or CL. But we almost always had a RM. Take your pick from Gos, Dawson, LDV, Balanta, and I think TL played there once or twice. We only played with 3 strikers on a couple of occasions and I can't recall going 352 at all? Forget it,it's my fault I thought you were saying we only played 2 in midfield and my Monkhouse comments were to say we always played with 3 or more midfielders so sorry about that. Ah I was unsure where you were aiming tbh.
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