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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 13, 2015 11:28:05 GMT
We had plenty of chances to draw level or even win against Oxford, can't blame the ref for that. Yes he was terrible but our inability to score was more worrying for me. Yesterday was devoid of chances all together. I think we need another striker who plays off the last defender (Taylor, Easter, Bodin are all similar players and Harrison struggled yesterday) AND we need to make an effort to bring in a RWB for the next couple of games. Even in the long-term, is having back-up for Leadbitter such a bad idea? Then revert back to 3-5-2 and pick and choose who plays in midfield. Yesterday felt like we were accommodating all our central midfielders and they all got in the way of each other. It's pointless bringing a RWB for 1 or 2 games then have him sit on the bench for the rest of his loan spell. What DC needs to do is decide what is the best formation 5-3-2, 4-1-2-1-2(!) or 4-4-2 then get the extrs players in to make the formation work. Regardless we're clearly lacking a Tom Eaves, or even Adam Cunnington, type CF the sooner we get one the better. Going off point...but Cunnington can't get in a team 2 leagues below us at the minute! Really liked him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 11:30:25 GMT
We had plenty of chances to draw level or even win against Oxford, can't blame the ref for that. Yes he was terrible but our inability to score was more worrying for me. Yesterday was devoid of chances all together. I think we need another striker who plays off the last defender (Taylor, Easter, Bodin are all similar players and Harrison struggled yesterday) AND we need to make an effort to bring in a RWB for the next couple of games. Even in the long-term, is having back-up for Leadbitter such a bad idea? Then revert back to 3-5-2 and pick and choose who plays in midfield. Yesterday felt like we were accommodating all our central midfielders and they all got in the way of each other. It's pointless bringing a RWB for 1 or 2 games then have him sit on the bench for the rest of his loan spell. What DC needs to do is decide what is the best formation 5-3-2, 4-1-2-1-2(!) or 4-4-2 then get the extrs players in to make the formation work. Regardless we're clearly lacking a Tom Eaves, or even Adam Cunnington, type CF the sooner we get one the better. You're absolutely correct, DC needs to go one way or the other. I'm sure DC would have continued with 3-5-2 were it not for Leadbitter's injury. Which is my point, we need cover for the two wing-backs if we're going to continue playing it. If 4-4-2 then he needs wingers, and 4-1-2-1-2 yesterday was dire. I suppose the silver lining of all this is that we were turd for the first 6/7 games last season, and DC was using all sorts of formations and personnel. I think once Leads is back we'll establish 3-5-2 pretty quickly. Striker for me is the priority once he's sorted out his formation, but unsure as to which type. An Eaves/Cunnington type would increase the options, but for me we have far too many who excel in 'link-up play' and get nowhere near the net. Midfield's fault? Maybe. But I don't think we need Easter, Taylor AND Bodin doing the same thing. So maybe a big man in now and a new striker when Bodin's deal expires. Shame because Bodin has done okay in the last couple of games.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 11:32:52 GMT
It's pointless bringing a RWB for 1 or 2 games then have him sit on the bench for the rest of his loan spell. What DC needs to do is decide what is the best formation 5-3-2, 4-1-2-1-2(!) or 4-4-2 then get the extrs players in to make the formation work. Regardless we're clearly lacking a Tom Eaves, or even Adam Cunnington, type CF the sooner we get one the better. Going off point...but Cunnington can't get in a team 2 leagues below us at the minute! Really liked him. He moved there for the ££££££. Unfortunately, teams with ££££££ can also afford the likes of Danny Kedwell, who is probably a better option than Cunnington as a target man.
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 13, 2015 11:34:25 GMT
The Ref yesterday did not cost us any points, as I said, the useless / homer / bent Ref's from the previous games knocked the stuffing out of the boys, these things can have a very bad effect. You start to wonder if anything will ever go your way, it's not rocket science to figure it might level out, but footballers are far from scientists in the brain power sense.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 13, 2015 11:40:40 GMT
Yeah we were getting manhandled and shirt-pulled at every aerial challenge, and the ref was the sort of ref who didn't give anything unless you fell over. Unfortunately, we only have a couple of players who fall over, and they're not very good at it.
Noticed their manager had a very long chat with the ref at half time as they were walking off. Sad to say, but ref-management is as much part of the game as clock management and ball management.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 11:48:40 GMT
Heard the players were booed off yesterday?
sh** fans.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 13, 2015 12:03:22 GMT
Heard the players were booed off yesterday? sh** fans. Well we were crap yesterday. Didn't personally boo or clap, just left straight away and silent like many others. That said enough IMO.
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Post by socrates on Sept 13, 2015 13:14:07 GMT
It's hard not to moan after watching us get ripped off by a sh*t ref then lose to Accrington f*cking Stanley. Accrington didn't play well. They didn't need to. We were so so bad. I thought Accrington were excellent without the ball clearly had a game plan that they executed very well. Ok they weren't great with the ball but lots on here have said they were sh**e as well but I disagree with that it was the perfect high pressing high energy snuff out the opposition away performance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 13:23:49 GMT
Heard the players were booed off yesterday? sh** fans. Mario's gone? What happened - did I miss the fireworks?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2015 13:24:14 GMT
Yeah we were getting manhandled and shirt-pulled at every aerial challenge, and the ref was the sort of ref who didn't give anything unless you fell over. Unfortunately, we only have a couple of players who fall over, and they're not very good at it. Noticed their manager had a very long chat with the ref at half time as they were walking off. Sad to say, but ref-management is as much part of the game as clock management and ball management. Problem is though all 4 teams we've played have been similar, the only player we really have with any physical presence has disappeared into the Tranmere wilderness. Whilst I mentioned Cunningham has an example I think we all accepted last season Blisset was a better player so it's all odd how he's been treated this season. He may well be useless a this level but I find it hard to believe he would be less effective than Taylor was yesterday, when it was almost if we were back to playing with 10 men again.
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Post by You can call me Al. on Sept 13, 2015 13:25:35 GMT
Heard the players were booed off yesterday? sh** fans. With respect another soddin fan who throws their bleedin toys out of the pram cause others have different views/ways of showing it *DeleteAccount says it bloody all! I actually think some good bleedin points are being made and to show dissatisfaction at a game i don't do it personally but i damn well understand it because it appears we've gone soddin backwards!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 14:10:27 GMT
So whats wrong with asking Neil Lennon for Eaves
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 14:15:57 GMT
It's hard not to moan after watching us get ripped off by a sh*t ref then lose to Accrington f*cking Stanley. Accrington didn't play well. They didn't need to. We were so so bad. I thought Accrington were excellent without the ball clearly had a game plan that they executed very well. Ok they weren't great with the ball but lots on here have said they were sh**e as well but I disagree with that it was the perfect high pressing high energy snuff out the opposition away performance. It was a case of a manager who knows the game inside out and can gert the right sort of players at minimal cost versus a novice who has few contacts and cant make up his mind who to play and what formation.Predictable result,as a fan near me said when Kee came on now we are in trouble.IF Stanley can afford a player like him why the hell cant we?We have signed 2 keepers on loan with both having little or nothing to do to game after game,why waste what little budget we have unnecessarily when everyone can see the need for a big striker?
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Post by joebananas67 on Sept 13, 2015 15:08:38 GMT
Why we didn't sign Jabo Ibehre is beyond me.
Big and powerful. This season he has added goals to his CV but he would have done a job.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 15:16:31 GMT
Yeah we were getting manhandled and shirt-pulled at every aerial challenge, and the ref was the sort of ref who didn't give anything unless you fell over. Unfortunately, we only have a couple of players who fall over, and they're not very good at it. Noticed their manager had a very long chat with the ref at half time as they were walking off. Sad to say, but ref-management is as much part of the game as clock management and ball management. Problem is though all 4 teams we've played have been similar, the only player we really have with any physical presence has disappeared into the Tranmere wilderness. Whilst I mentioned Cunningham has an example I think we all accepted last season Blisset was a better player so it's all odd how he's been treated this season. He may well be useless a this level but I find it hard to believe he would be less effective than Taylor was yesterday, when it was almost if we were back to playing with 10 men again. I heard Blissett described by an ex Rovers player and respected coach as reminiscent of bambi on ice,his words not mine
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 15:54:29 GMT
Problem is though all 4 teams we've played have been similar, the only player we really have with any physical presence has disappeared into the Tranmere wilderness. Whilst I mentioned Cunningham has an example I think we all accepted last season Blisset was a better player so it's all odd how he's been treated this season. He may well be useless a this level but I find it hard to believe he would be less effective than Taylor was yesterday, when it was almost if we were back to playing with 10 men again. I heard Blissett described by an ex Rovers player and respected coach as reminiscent of bambi on ice,his words not mine Unless that person is currently on the Rovers coaching staff, that comment has as much relevance as one of us mere mortals on the terrace saying it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 17:56:04 GMT
Yeah we were getting manhandled and shirt-pulled at every aerial challenge, and the ref was the sort of ref who didn't give anything unless you fell over. Unfortunately, we only have a couple of players who fall over, and they're not very good at it. Noticed their manager had a very long chat with the ref at half time as they were walking off. Sad to say, but ref-management is as much part of the game as clock management and ball management. Problem is though all 4 teams we've played have been similar, the only player we really have with any physical presence has disappeared into the Tranmere wilderness. Whilst I mentioned Cunningham has an example I think we all accepted last season Blisset was a better player so it's all odd how he's been treated this season. He may well be useless a this level but I find it hard to believe he would be less effective than Taylor was yesterday, when it was almost if we were back to playing with 10 men again. Haha! He is probably the least effective target man (physically) that we have ever had. Ellis is better in the air, Easter is stronger, Ellis is faster, Taylor has much better control. If we want plan B to knock long balls to a big un, he will need to be much better than Bliss. Why doesn't anybody take the ho ts from those itk? Darrell touched on it at the QnA, now there is word from the Tranmere coaching team. He's not very good!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 13, 2015 19:45:56 GMT
Problem is though all 4 teams we've played have been similar, the only player we really have with any physical presence has disappeared into the Tranmere wilderness. Whilst I mentioned Cunningham has an example I think we all accepted last season Blisset was a better player so it's all odd how he's been treated this season. He may well be useless a this level but I find it hard to believe he would be less effective than Taylor was yesterday, when it was almost if we were back to playing with 10 men again. Haha! He is probably the least effective target man (physically) that we have ever had. Ellis is better in the air, Easter is stronger, Ellis is faster, Taylor has much better control. If we want plan B to knock long balls to a big un, he will need to be much better than Bliss. Why doesn't anybody take the ho ts from those itk? Darrell touched on it at the QnA, now there is word from the Tranmere coaching team. He's not very good! Thank God for that. Was starting to question my sanity? We seen he was crap for us last season. DC clearly doesn't rate him to loan him out. Tranmere clearly don't rate him to not include him in their squad. I don't see what sort of logic people are applying to say put him in or that he deserves a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 20:03:51 GMT
Yeah we were getting manhandled and shirt-pulled at every aerial challenge, and the ref was the sort of ref who didn't give anything unless you fell over. Unfortunately, we only have a couple of players who fall over, and they're not very good at it. Noticed their manager had a very long chat with the ref at half time as they were walking off. Sad to say, but ref-management is as much part of the game as clock management and ball management. Problem is though all 4 teams we've played have been similar, the only player we really have with any physical presence has disappeared into the Tranmere wilderness. Whilst I mentioned Cunningham has an example I think we all accepted last season Blisset was a better player so it's all odd how he's been treated this season. He may well be useless a this level but I find it hard to believe he would be less effective than Taylor was yesterday, when it was almost if we were back to playing with 10 men again. Bloody hell,Chief Ironside, with a puncture in his left side tyre, would have been more effective than the useless striker yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 10:39:12 GMT
I heard Blissett described by an ex Rovers player and respected coach as reminiscent of bambi on ice,his words not mine Unless that person is currently on the Rovers coaching staff, that comment has as much relevance as one of us mere mortals on the terrace saying it. This person works for a top premiership club and what he doesn't know about being a striker you can put on a pin head.
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