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Post by mariobalotelli on Dec 29, 2015 15:57:51 GMT
Resigned from Swindon.
Anyone else worried they could come in for DC? I'd like to think he'd turn them down if he did, but would assume that would depend on if the board have agreed to match his expectations.
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Post by inee on Dec 29, 2015 16:01:05 GMT
seems a bit fishy to me . swindon can pish off, igot a feeling that dc will be around for a while yet as he's not finished with us by a long chalk
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 16:03:16 GMT
Wonder if that was a recurrence of his previous illness that forced him out of the game
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 16:03:46 GMT
Martin Ling has problems.
Perhaps he has been found out again.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 29, 2015 16:40:14 GMT
Martin Ling has problems. Perhaps he has been found out again. He's resigned for "health reason" so not a lot to find out, unless your suggesting he didn't leave Torquay for similar reasons?? Back to the OP i can't honestly see waht Swindon can offer he couldn't achieve at Rovers?
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Post by justin blue on Dec 29, 2015 16:51:17 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get Gary Johnson he's only up the road and has league 1 experience. Or they could wait a week or two for Cotterill
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 29, 2015 17:00:04 GMT
Anyone else worried they could come in for DC? Notts County, too, now, maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 17:11:13 GMT
Martin Ling has problems. Perhaps he has been found out again. He's resigned for "health reason" so not a lot to find out, unless your suggesting he didn't leave Torquay for similar reasons?? Back to the OP i can't honestly see waht Swindon can offer he couldn't achieve at Rovers? Correct, alcoholism is an illness and it certainly affects your health.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 29, 2015 17:13:51 GMT
DC is ours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 17:19:05 GMT
He's resigned for "health reason" so not a lot to find out, unless your suggesting he didn't leave Torquay for similar reasons?? Back to the OP i can't honestly see waht Swindon can offer he couldn't achieve at Rovers? Correct, alcoholism is an illness and it certainly affects your health. Cancer is an illness. Don't get me started that alcoholism is a illness. I'm not in the PC brigade, so am expecting a lot of sh!t RE:this.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 29, 2015 17:29:07 GMT
Correct, alcoholism is an illness and it certainly affects your health. Cancer is an illness. Don't get me started that alcoholism is a illness. I'm not in the PC brigade, so am expecting a lot of sh!t RE:this. Alcoholism isn't. Depression is.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Dec 29, 2015 17:30:42 GMT
Ding Ding.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 29, 2015 17:43:25 GMT
Alcoholism is an illness coz it's a disease that has symptoms and is treatable. Just coz it is largely self-inflicted doesn't mean it isn't one. If you don't want to be sympathetic to a sufferer, you don't need to be. Just don't be; it's simple. But there's no reason to change the meanings of words just so you can feel better about it, or pride yourself on not being PC or whatever you think that means.
The definition of disease isn't 'something I'm sympathetic to.' And the definition of PC isn't 'something I disagree with.'
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 29, 2015 17:46:38 GMT
Correct, alcoholism is an illness and it certainly affects your health. Cancer is an illness. Don't get me started that alcoholism is a illness. I'm not in the PC brigade, so am expecting a lot of sh!t RE:this. Social over drinking isn't an illness. I would suggest alcoholism is more likely a symptom of an underlying mental illness, most commonly depression but sometimes as a way of coping with and masking the symptoms of schizophrenia in my experience. I suppose if you are only looking at alcoholism in isolation then you may have a point but I'm not sure how wise that is as its rarely an isolated condition.
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Post by philbemmygas on Dec 29, 2015 18:14:28 GMT
Cancer is an illness. Don't get me started that alcoholism is a illness. I'm not in the PC brigade, so am expecting a lot of sh!t RE:this. Social over drinking isn't an illness. I would suggest alcoholism is more likely a symptom of an underlying mental illness, most commonly depression but sometimes as a way of coping with and masking the symptoms of schizophrenia in my experience. I suppose if you are only looking at alcoholism in isolation then you may have a point but I'm not sure how wise that is as its rarely an isolated condition. Alcoholism as Hugo suggests is part of a larger illness, once you are addicted it is a difficult cycle to break. i hope Martin Ling can find a cure to his problems, nice bloke by all accounts. That could be many of us in the future, so don't dismiss it out of hand
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 19:00:07 GMT
Ling was doing a good job at Swindon turning them around, shame this illness of his has come back.
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Post by pirateman on Dec 30, 2015 13:06:32 GMT
There is a very strong genetic link to alcoholism and addiction generally, so to call it a disease is accurate.
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Post by kabatiti on Dec 30, 2015 13:21:04 GMT
I am a NHS specialist and treat addiction. I used to be confident about what causes alcoholism and addiction in general but after treating a couple of thousand people I now feel much less confident.
The term alcoholic is most used in the 12 step meetings of AA. These meetings provide a solution for many thousands of people with issues.
In the medical sector we talk about problematic, harmful drinkers and dependant drinkers. I tend to only get involved with dependant drinkers but when you consider circa 90% of the adult population drink and of that figure 6% are dependant drinkers this is a huge amount of people. They are from all walks of life and can be people you know, work with etc.
In my opinion it's hard to establish what is the cause of this and we need to take people as individuals. What we do know is that 70%-90% of dependant drinkers also have a anxiety or mood disorder but this takes you into chicken and egg teriority.
This video sums up some of my views.
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Post by socrates on Dec 30, 2015 14:12:10 GMT
I am a NHS specialist and treat addiction. I used to be confident about what causes alcoholism and addiction in general but after treating a couple of thousand people I now feel much less confident. The term alcoholic is most used in the 12 step meetings of AA. These meetings provide a solution for many thousands of people with issues. In the medical sector we talk about problematic, harmful drinkers and dependant drinkers. I tend to only get involved with dependant drinkers but when you consider circa 90% of the adult population drink and of that figure 6% are dependant drinkers this is a huge amount of people. They are from all walks of life and can be people you know, work with etc. In my opinion it's hard to establish what is the cause of this and we need to take people as individuals. What we do know is that 70%-90% of dependant drinkers also have a anxiety or mood disorder but this takes you into chicken and egg teriority. This video sums up some of my views. Great video that and as a recovering addict myself (I've been clean 17 years )I completely agree with the theory. Surround yourself with bad things and it's a hard thing to break but there's plenty of good things in life to surround yourself with and that way certainly worked for me after years of problems.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 30, 2015 14:29:21 GMT
Not sure anybody is actually saying Ling's turned to drink again just "health issues" which could mean anything from just depression to alcoholism or new health problem he's, unfortunately, now developed?
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