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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 5, 2016 12:14:28 GMT
He has no transfer value. His contract is up at the end of the season and he can do what he likes from now on - eg sign pre contract agreement with another club for next season. The only real value that Cambridge can extract is that of freeing up some wages..... May offer them a small fee based on us getting promotion but small and token like. Perhaps on the open transfer market he hasn't but he's clearly worth something to us or, otherwise, DC would have simply said the deals off?
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Post by Severncider on Jan 5, 2016 12:16:48 GMT
We should have pre agreed term options before taking him on loan What if he played games was seen to be a complete clown and we did not want him?
It's easy in hindsight.
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 5, 2016 12:20:06 GMT
Like I said... a small token fee if we get promoted at most. very few at this level carry a fee. Will Cambridge play the risky game of having a player stuck on their wage bill coming out of the transfer window? I think not.
The key indicator is (and DC will never let on) how far down the list was RG and are the preferred options now available?
Ohhh the possibilities are endless!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 12:20:41 GMT
We should have pre agreed term options before taking him on loan Sack the board.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 5, 2016 12:21:50 GMT
Just thinking wasn't Blisset pretty good for Kidderminster this time last year when we paid a transfer fee for him? Gaffney maybe worth say £25K but then DC would also have to offer him at least an 18 months contract or risk losing him for nothing in the summer, so that £25K could become £75K plus Inc wages etc? Perhaps there's better value elsewhere than really an untried Irish League player, who knows? But isn't that the same with any player? You don't sign a player for £25k and expect to pay them nothing. As for your last sentence, I think Gaffney is what you would call an unexposed player. He is a late comer a bit like Rickie Lambert. His record in Ireland looks very impressive (19 in 17 for Limerick) and I can imagine it is hard to get a break playing over there unless you really stand out. Cambridge were his first English club but it seems injuries have disrupted him there. He's come to us and looked impressive in nearly every game even when he hasn't scored. I actually think he is worth more than £25k on ability. However, let's not forget this is a player Cambridge weren't bothered about losing not so long ago and only has 6 months left on his contract so that's why I don't want us to get dragged into paying too much for him. I really think this is one that Cambridge will regret letting go. In the right team, I think Gaffney can keep progressing. The difference is taking Lines as an example he only cost us last season's wages initally, so say he's was on £50k pa, 6 months wages cost us £25K (even if we paid it in full), if he'd been poor that's all we had to pay, but Gaffeny with a transfer fee of only £25K is going to cost us around £75K in total, make it £50K and it becomes £100K, or even £150K if we have to offer him a 2.5 year deal. So does DC gamble £75K+ on Gaffney or is there better value elsewhere? As far as a player improving didn't we say think Bliss could only get better after he turned full time? Whether Gaffney can improve is one for DC & co to decide but it seems Cambridge don't rate him.
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Post by baggins on Jan 5, 2016 12:23:15 GMT
We should have pre agreed term options before taking him on loan Sack the board. Don't you just love ctrl c ctrl v.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 12:28:26 GMT
Don't you just love ctrl c ctrl v. You what?
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Post by CrispPusher on Jan 5, 2016 12:29:18 GMT
Whatever Cambridge are asking for him, won't even close to the court fees the club have thrown away.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 5, 2016 12:36:16 GMT
But isn't that the same with any player? You don't sign a player for £25k and expect to pay them nothing. As for your last sentence, I think Gaffney is what you would call an unexposed player. He is a late comer a bit like Rickie Lambert. His record in Ireland looks very impressive (19 in 17 for Limerick) and I can imagine it is hard to get a break playing over there unless you really stand out. Cambridge were his first English club but it seems injuries have disrupted him there. He's come to us and looked impressive in nearly every game even when he hasn't scored. I actually think he is worth more than £25k on ability. However, let's not forget this is a player Cambridge weren't bothered about losing not so long ago and only has 6 months left on his contract so that's why I don't want us to get dragged into paying too much for him. I really think this is one that Cambridge will regret letting go. In the right team, I think Gaffney can keep progressing. The difference is taking Lines as an example he only cost us last season's wages initally, so say he's was on £50k pa, 6 months wages cost us £25K (even if we paid it in full), if he'd been poor that's all we had to pay, but Gaffeny with a transfer fee of only £25K is going to cost us around £75K in total, make it £50K and it becomes £100K, or even £150K if we have to offer him a 2.5 year deal. So does DC gamble £75K+ on Gaffney or is there better value elsewhere? As far as a player improving didn't we say think Bliss could only get better after he turned full time? Whether Gaffney can improve is one for DC & co to decide but it seems Cambridge don't rate him. Personally never been convinced by Blissett even when we signed him. I was just happy to sign a striker at that time. I think Gaffney will prove to be a good signing.
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Post by baggins on Jan 5, 2016 12:46:31 GMT
Don't you just love ctrl c ctrl v. You what? Copy and paste old chap, copy and paste.
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Post by lpgas on Jan 5, 2016 13:27:47 GMT
We wait till June he is free!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 13:37:24 GMT
Don't you just love ctrl c ctrl v. You what? Rude
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 5, 2016 14:56:24 GMT
We should have pre agreed term options before taking him on loan What if he played games was seen to be a complete clown and we did not want him?
It's easy in hindsight.
Ok I'll word that better Pre agree what options would or could be available at the end of the loan period should we decide we want him
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jan 5, 2016 15:14:22 GMT
Come on Rory, do the honorable thing and hand in a transfer request. Maybe don't turn up to training too.
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Post by inee on Jan 5, 2016 15:25:24 GMT
I think to be fair in answering the poll question, my reaction would be a mixture of all 3, with a real battle between being ambivalent about being ambivalent, but overridingly happy with the second option, as for me it would mean the club really has turn't a corner in listening to the criticism of paying stupid money and stupidly long contracts. I also feel if we can get him with the type of deals we are currently giving the team, then that credit will mainly be daryll's for the way he has instilled playing for the colours in the team ,and how the players support each other, but if we start giving out silly contracts again it will mean those at the top have learned nothing
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Post by garystash on Jan 5, 2016 19:00:55 GMT
It's a shame if we don't get him as IMHO he has been the difference between us being a mid-table side and a top 7 side.
However, I dont think he's worth a fee because he's scored us a few goals.
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Post by peterpirate on Jan 5, 2016 20:36:10 GMT
Have they learnt about not giving out big wages or is it simply the money isn't there,if all our money is going on these loans there want be money for players
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 20:54:35 GMT
It's a shame if we don't get him as IMHO he has been the difference between us being a mid-table side and a top 7 side. However, I dont think he's worth a fee because he's scored us a few goals. Get real, of course he is worth a fee.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jan 5, 2016 21:32:42 GMT
Have they learnt about not giving out big wages or is it simply the money isn't there,if all our money is going on these loans there want be money for players No good paying your mortgage if you let your property/assets run to rack and ruin
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Post by althepirate on Jan 5, 2016 21:42:29 GMT
I think to be fair in answering the poll question, my reaction would be a mixture of all 3, with a real battle between being ambivalent about being ambivalent, but overridingly happy with the second option, as for me it would mean the club really has turn't a corner in listening to the criticism of paying stupid money and stupidly long contracts. I also feel if we can get him with the type of deals we are currently giving the team, then that credit will mainly be daryll's for the way he has instilled playing for the colours in the team ,and how the players support each other, but if we start giving out silly contracts again it will mean those at the top have learned nothing Yep exactly well said matey
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