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Post by curlywurly on Jan 18, 2016 14:13:05 GMT
Also I think I am right in saying though stand to be corrected, any individuals associated with the bid are liable personally for compensation I think you are correct Langford. On a side issue if you live in Langford (North Somerset), you are my neighbour (Nearly) As I say, I don't believe the individuals (Community Interest Group) associated with the bid are liable for any compensation. ...and.... I don't live anywhere near Langford!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2016 14:13:12 GMT
5. Compensation for any loss as a result of the process is determined by the Council and comes from government funds (up to £20k from the local council and amounts above that from central government). Compensation would not be due from the Community interest group.
Great, so Radice has potentially wasted even more of the council's money as clearly they are nver going to find the £30m need to buy the Mem?
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 18, 2016 14:16:38 GMT
5. Compensation for any loss as a result of the process is determined by the Council and comes from government funds (up to £20k from the local council and amounts above that from central government). Compensation would not be due from the Community interest group. Great, so Radice has potentially wasted even more of the council's money as clearly they are nver going to find the £30m need to buy the Mem? Exactly. A very touchy, feely piece of legislation, I am afraid. The system on compensation is pretty stupid as the seller has to claim after the period and the council (that has to foot the compensation bill) determines what compensation is due (if any).......duh!!
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Post by Langford Gas on Jan 18, 2016 14:16:51 GMT
I think you are correct Langford. On a side issue if you live in Langford (North Somerset), you are my neighbour (Nearly) As I say, I don't believe the individuals (Community Interest Group) associated with the bid are liable for any compensation. ...and.... I don't live anywhere near Langford! Bad Luck
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 14:17:17 GMT
What saddens me is the 'knocking down a war memorial' argument being used for political purposes. It was used as justification for the vandalism the other week too.
The garden planned was far better than a run-down stadiun and a set of shoddy gates which get vandalised every 12 months. I'm sure the people who use the 'war memorial' argument know this.
EDIT: That isn't hugely relevant to the OP, but more to the first response.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 18, 2016 14:18:14 GMT
Haven't these people got trees to hug or something?
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 18, 2016 14:29:57 GMT
Some further information from the BCC website:
Asset of Community Value: The Memorial Stadium Filton Avenue Horfield Bristol BS7 0BF Nomination by: The Bishopston Society Nomination form received 17/09/2015 Effective Listing Date: 6/11/2015 Date Listing Expires: 6/11/2020 Current Status: Owner has submitted notice of intent to sell Acceptance date 14/12/2015 End of interim moratorium period 25/01/2016 End of full six month moratorium period 14/06/2016 End of 18 month protected period 14/06/2017
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Post by gassince1957 on Jan 18, 2016 14:50:31 GMT
The ACV process was meant to cover genuine community assets e.g. pubs, local parks etc. which are used by and available to the public. So, for example, if there had been an ACV for that pub at the end of Filton Avenue, the local people could have pulled together and purchased it - I think that's what happened to The Lamplighters pub in Shirehampton.
The memorial Stadium, certainly the playing surface is NOT used by, or open to the public. In fact, entry to the stadium is by invitation only in effect AND you have to pay to gain entry. Obviously, the public can enter the shop, but it is not a public facility in the truest sense of the Act.
This is just Radice and The Greens plus Carstairs causing as much delay and trouble as they can (again). No idea why BCC fell for this obvious tactic, but expect the deciding committee included the Assistant Mayor for Sport - Radice!!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 18, 2016 15:03:18 GMT
The ACV process was meant to cover genuine community assets e.g. pubs, local parks etc. which are used by and available to the public. So, for example, if there had been an ACV for that pub at the end of Filton Avenue, the local people could have pulled together and purchased it - I think that's what happened to The Lamplighters pub in Shirehampton. The memorial Stadium, certainly the playing surface is NOT used by, or open to the public. In fact, entry to the stadium is by invitation only in effect AND you have to pay to gain entry. Obviously, the public can enter the shop, but it is not a public facility in the truest sense of the Act. This is just Radice and The Greens plus Carstairs causing as much delay and trouble as they can (again). No idea why BCC fell for this obvious tactic, but expect the deciding committee included the Assistant Mayor for Sport - Radice!! Sounds like anyone can cause a 6 month delay pretty much for free. At least, I suppose this is actually potentially a decent arrangement in the interests of BRFC fans, as it means we would have a chance of stopping some asset stripping board from flogging our beloved piece of hallowed turf the ground.
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 18, 2016 15:04:03 GMT
So Parrot live in Blagdon or Churchill... Worst chat up line ever btw ??
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Post by Parrot on Jan 18, 2016 15:06:08 GMT
So Parrot live in Blagdon or Churchill... Worst chat up line ever btw ?? Inbetween the both
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 18, 2016 15:07:45 GMT
So here I am walking through Bishopston, and Radice herself has just walked past me! And believe me now, she's a lot uglier in person than in photo!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2016 15:47:04 GMT
The ACV process was meant to cover genuine community assets e.g. pubs, local parks etc. which are used by and available to the public. So, for example, if there had been an ACV for that pub at the end of Filton Avenue, the local people could have pulled together and purchased it - I think that's what happened to The Lamplighters pub in Shirehampton. The memorial Stadium, certainly the playing surface is NOT used by, or open to the public. In fact, entry to the stadium is by invitation only in effect AND you have to pay to gain entry. Obviously, the public can enter the shop, but it is not a public facility in the truest sense of the Act. This is just Radice and The Greens plus Carstairs causing as much delay and trouble as they can (again). No idea why BCC fell for this obvious tactic, but expect the deciding committee included the Assistant Mayor for Sport - Radice!! Sounds like anyone can cause a 6 month delay pretty much for free. At least, I suppose this is actually potentially a decent arrangement in the interests of BRFC fans, as it means we would have a chance of stopping some asset stripping board from flogging our beloved piece of hallowed turf the ground. Only if we could raise £20m??? As I've said before given the nonsense of this decision I'm surprised it was mentioned/discussed before being passed by BCC.
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 18, 2016 16:02:18 GMT
The ACV process was meant to cover genuine community assets e.g. pubs, local parks etc. which are used by and available to the public. So, for example, if there had been an ACV for that pub at the end of Filton Avenue, the local people could have pulled together and purchased it - I think that's what happened to The Lamplighters pub in Shirehampton. The memorial Stadium, certainly the playing surface is NOT used by, or open to the public. In fact, entry to the stadium is by invitation only in effect AND you have to pay to gain entry. Obviously, the public can enter the shop, but it is not a public facility in the truest sense of the Act. This is just Radice and The Greens plus Carstairs causing as much delay and trouble as they can (again). No idea why BCC fell for this obvious tactic, but expect the deciding committee included the Assistant Mayor for Sport - Radice!! Yes a complete load of old nonsense. It would seem as though a council is forced to allow the listing of an ACV if certain criteria are met. The process is also skewed against the current owner in that they are allowed to appeal against a decision, but they are potentially not involved up to and including the decision to grant ACV status. Could "we" have appealed against the decision? Yes, but given that an appeal could have taken longer than the potential 6 month moratorium process, I would suggest a pragmatic approach has been followed. I'd repeat that after the 6 month (or 6 week) process, the owner can sell to whomever they want for whatever price - so potentially any action by a Community Interest Group could be completely meaningless other than to delay. But after all, that is all that TRASH, Carstairs et al. are interested in.......[I'm right Daniella aren't I?]
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Post by gregsy on Jan 18, 2016 17:32:13 GMT
it's just one process after another....
when this one's resolved, along will come the next one, and then the one after that....
and then after that, another one....
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 18, 2016 18:08:19 GMT
Excuse my rhetoric, those dickheads need to realise they tried and failed to block the planning permission and get on with their sad (blinkered) lives
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 18, 2016 18:12:47 GMT
So here I am walking through Bishopston, and Radice herself has just walked past me! And believe me now, she's a lot uglier in person than in photo! i can just imagine her saying the same. Any need to abuse a woman?
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Post by amgas on Jan 18, 2016 19:23:43 GMT
Sounds as though he did not say anything to her, which I must admit shows remarkable restraint if you ask me.
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 19, 2016 8:52:05 GMT
So Parrot live in Blagdon or Churchill... Worst chat up line ever btw ?? Inbetween the both People actually live Rickford?!?
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Post by Parrot on Jan 19, 2016 9:01:33 GMT
Inbetween the both People actually live Rickford?!? I can walk to the Plume of Feathers, so it has its advantages
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