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Post by landersgas on Mar 17, 2016 18:11:07 GMT
Did I really just hear Radice on itv news trying to make out that shaftsburys did to the gas what it did to the locals (or something like that) That woman really has got some nerve trying to take the moral high ground...please residents of Bristol get rid of her...responsible for sport in Bristol - my arse!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 17, 2016 18:11:13 GMT
Here's the full judgement. It looks like heavy going. How they got all this from such a short appeal I have no idea. "Pink" Floyd seems to do all the work. The other two judges just nod in agreement at the end. www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2016/160.htmltl:dr
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 17, 2016 19:59:06 GMT
So you don't think that the previous regime bears any responsibility for this total shambles then? What shambles ? Are we going into Administration because of today ? Are we not getting a world class stadium still ? On every level the previous regime failed taking the club only backwards, Bristol Rovers were in League 1 at the point control changed. The last crumb of comfort to them might have been to have won today, but it didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that it was doomed to failure. I have little doubt that we will get a world class stadium but to credit the former board with that is a bit like saying Walter Winterbottom won the World Cup rather than Sir Alf Ramsey........
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Mar 17, 2016 20:02:12 GMT
They've made around 10,000 enemies in this city, very personally as well. I for one will do my utmost to hurt there trade and profits for the rest of my days. maybe we should all go and fart on their ham.
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Mar 17, 2016 20:06:13 GMT
I for one quite like shopping at sainsburys, I won't be cutting my nose of to spite my face. They won, let's just get on with it. Not unless we're gonna arrange a load of us to go and fart on their ham.
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 17, 2016 20:10:34 GMT
This would make sense to me if they didnt have such a large share in a bank. If they need to borrow against assets held then why not just get the finance from their own bank? Its probably gone over my head but cant help feeling that all is not as it seems. Why not say that they are currently in the process of releasing funds for the first stages of the project rather that talking to financiers. Didnt they say that they were looking for financiers a week or so ago? Unfortunately lulworth people were so desperate to get rid of the last lot (with good reason) they've chosen not to really listen to the new owners. I haven't heard them say at any point they will be 'gifting' us a new stadium just that it will be built & will require funding. I suspect the football club will ultimately pay for the building of the stadium so we have to have our fingers crossed that the new owners can generate enough income for the football club to be able to pay the bills. In short I suspect people will at some stage be disappointed to find out that the club will now be run as a business and not as some sort of elaborate donation scheme. Still the old lot our gone & hopefully thee new guys our more commercially aware. "The club will be run as a business and not as some sort of elaborate donation scheme"......Amen to that......
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Post by newmarketgas on Mar 17, 2016 20:53:12 GMT
It's a bit of a drudge but before ranting at the old board you should read it !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 20:54:48 GMT
They've made around 10,000 enemies in this city, very personally as well. I for one will do my utmost to hurt there trade and profits for the rest of my days. maybe we should all go and fart on their ham. Sounds like a plan...
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Post by aghast on Mar 17, 2016 21:24:04 GMT
What shambles ? Are we going into Administration because of today ? Are we not getting a world class stadium still ? I have little doubt that we will get a world class stadium but to credit the former board with that is a bit like saying Walter Winterbottom won the World Cup rather than Sir Alf Ramsey........ Not so sure we will have a world class stadium. Just a nice modest one.
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Post by Quartermaster on Mar 17, 2016 22:35:27 GMT
I'm not quite feeling the mild sense of alarm. Ok TW is a link to the old regime, but from what I can make out from his update:
- there was a plan b for the Mem (presumably alternative buyer) under Higgs that couldn't be disclosed and would have taken a couple of years to come to fruition. Pretty inconsequential now.
- there is a plan b for the mem now (presumably an alternative buyer - poss the same one??).
- as we were told last week by the chairman, we have been in talks about financing the stadium today.
I think some of us are getting our knickers in a twist over the word "financing". Surely this is as much about structuring the finance as it is acquiring it.
Not overly concerned and await news of work on the car park commencing soonish, followed by work on a 27001 capacity UWE shortly afterwards!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 0:57:44 GMT
I for one quite like shopping at sainsburys, I won't be cutting my nose of to spite my face. They won, let's just get on with it. Not unless we're gonna arrange a load of us to go and fart on their ham. I recommend the cheap cut. Very farmhousesy.
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 18, 2016 4:44:14 GMT
Double post
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 18, 2016 4:45:13 GMT
I'm not quite feeling the mild sense of alarm. Ok TW is a link to the old regime, but from what I can make out from his update: - there was a plan b for the Mem (presumably alternative buyer) under Higgs that couldn't be disclosed and would have taken a couple of years to come to fruition. Pretty inconsequential now. - there is a plan b for the mem now (presumably an alternative buyer - poss the same one??). - as we were told last week by the chairman, we have been in talks about financing the stadium today. I think some of us are getting our knickers in a twist over the word "financing". Surely this is as much about structuring the finance as it is acquiring it. Not overly concerned and await news of work on the car park commencing soonish, followed by work on a 27001 capacity UWE shortly afterwards! The only thing is the chairman said on that subs bench program the other week that the mem had to be sold and the proceeds put towards the new stadium. If it's a case of having a new contract in place to sell the mem and obtaining the funds before the new ground can progress, we could be waiting a long time. I was hoping we could press on with the project and the mem money could be put back into the pot down the line, but perhaps the owners don't have the funds to do that?
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Post by Quartermaster on Mar 18, 2016 6:12:10 GMT
I'm not quite feeling the mild sense of alarm. Ok TW is a link to the old regime, but from what I can make out from his update: - there was a plan b for the Mem (presumably alternative buyer) under Higgs that couldn't be disclosed and would have taken a couple of years to come to fruition. Pretty inconsequential now. - there is a plan b for the mem now (presumably an alternative buyer - poss the same one??). - as we were told last week by the chairman, we have been in talks about financing the stadium today. I think some of us are getting our knickers in a twist over the word "financing". Surely this is as much about structuring the finance as it is acquiring it. Not overly concerned and await news of work on the car park commencing soonish, followed by work on a 27001 capacity UWE shortly afterwards! The only thing is the chairman said on that subs bench program the other week that the mem had to be sold and the proceeds put towards the new stadium. If it's a case of having a new contract in place to sell the mem and obtaining the funds before the new ground can progress, we could be waiting a long time. I was hoping we could press on with the project and the mem money could be put back into the pot down the line, but perhaps the owners don't have the funds to do that? We could be waiting a while, but none of us know A. Whether there is an alternative buyer lined up and B. If there is, how far down the line towards an agreement we are. I'm sure we'd like another supermarket to step in from the point of view of obtaining a higher price for the land, but that's unlikely I'd imagine. It's far more likely a house builder will snap it up. Far more likely to get PP easily, but then it's not my money and I don't know how desperately we need the extra money to build a stadium. If it was deemed any easily sellable plot of land but the timescale to wrap it all up was lengthy, is there the possibility of a bridging loan through our owners with their links to the banking industry or is that perhaps moving into unnecessarily dangerous ground? I trust Wael and his team to get the best for us. Our new situation naturally leads to a lack of patience from fans on this, but we had to get very used to being patient over the years, we shouldn't throw that quality out of the window!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 18, 2016 7:49:06 GMT
Did I really just hear Radice on itv news trying to make out that shaftsburys did to the gas what it did to the locals (or something like that) That woman really has got some nerve trying to take the moral high ground...please residents of Bristol get rid of her...responsible for sport in Bristol - my arse! Yeah, I watched the repeat, just to see this. That was..., erm..., amazing. She said she was gutted for us, and that Sainsbury's had messed us around just like they'd messed the locals around. Bizarre spin on it. And, of course, the obvious follow-up question was never asked by our intrepid local TV reporter.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 18, 2016 7:59:54 GMT
I'm not quite feeling the mild sense of alarm. Ok TW is a link to the old regime, but from what I can make out from his update: - there was a plan b for the Mem (presumably alternative buyer) under Higgs that couldn't be disclosed and would have taken a couple of years to come to fruition. Pretty inconsequential now. - there is a plan b for the mem now (presumably an alternative buyer - poss the same one??). - as we were told last week by the chairman, we have been in talks about financing the stadium today. I think some of us are getting our knickers in a twist over the word "financing". Surely this is as much about structuring the finance as it is acquiring it. Not overly concerned and await news of work on the car park commencing soonish, followed by work on a 27001 capacity UWE shortly afterwards! The only thing is the chairman said on that subs bench program the other week that the mem had to be sold and the proceeds put towards the new stadium. If it's a case of having a new contract in place to sell the mem and obtaining the funds before the new ground can progress, we could be waiting a long time. I was hoping we could press on with the project and the mem money could be put back into the pot down the line, but perhaps the owners don't have the funds to do that? He was asked whether it could be retained for training and as part of the Rovers set up and he dismissed it. It's not quite the same as saying that everything hinges on its sale .
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Post by Gastroenteritis on Mar 18, 2016 19:40:20 GMT
I for one quite like shopping at sainsburys, I won't be cutting my nose of to spite my face. They won, let's just get on with it. Not unless we're gonna arrange a load of us to go and fart on their ham. I recommend the cheap cut. Very farmhousesy. my fart or sainsburys ham?
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Post by paulpirate on Mar 18, 2016 20:49:05 GMT
I for one quite like shopping at sainsburys, I won't be cutting my nose of to spite my face. They won, let's just get on with it. Not unless we're gonna arrange a load of us to go and fart on their ham. stink bombs are better they hover about longer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 21:07:35 GMT
I for one quite like shopping at sainsburys, I won't be cutting my nose of to spite my face. They won, let's just get on with it. Not unless we're gonna arrange a load of us to go and fart on their ham. stink bombs are better they hover about longer Ah stink bombs, I remember as a kid buying a load in the joke shop at the top of Christmas steps, we would stop the buses get on and let 'em off. I remember getting chased by one watered off driver. They were the days!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 18, 2016 21:13:45 GMT
The only thing is the chairman said on that subs bench program the other week that the mem had to be sold and the proceeds put towards the new stadium. If it's a case of having a new contract in place to sell the mem and obtaining the funds before the new ground can progress, we could be waiting a long time. I was hoping we could press on with the project and the mem money could be put back into the pot down the line, but perhaps the owners don't have the funds to do that? We could be waiting a while, but none of us know A. Whether there is an alternative buyer lined up and B. If there is, how far down the line towards an agreement we are. I'm sure we'd like another supermarket to step in from the point of view of obtaining a higher price for the land, but that's unlikely I'd imagine. It's far more likely a house builder will snap it up. Far more likely to get PP easily, but then it's not my money and I don't know how desperately we need the extra money to build a stadium. If it was deemed any easily sellable plot of land but the timescale to wrap it all up was lengthy, is there the possibility of a bridging loan through our owners with their links to the banking industry or is that perhaps moving into unnecessarily dangerous ground? I trust Wael and his team to get the best for us. Our new situation naturally leads to a lack of patience from fans on this, but we had to get very used to being patient over the years, we shouldn't throw that quality out of the window! Hamer talked recently about the UWE wanting the car park built by September, I can see we'd build them a car park then wait years before starting work on the UWE, there was also talk of it being finished in around 18 months, whilst the Al-Q's are in for the long term I assume they'll want some RTOR within 5 years, not a decade plus?
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