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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 6:18:50 GMT
Being a large fellow, you are conscious that your runtish friends of normal stature do not attract the same ire you do when selecting a space. My group of friends and relatives at rovers all are smaller than I, so when we squeeze in on the dribuild, whilst others are accepted, I am often met with sighs and annoyance as anyone behind me is in trouble!
Now, as my mates have a habit of turning up at 2.55 and insisting on bring right on the halfway line, this has created some issues. Sometimes I even stand on my own as pushing in the middle when full I feel is a little aggressive and as a big guy, you always get the aggro!
However, the rule I apply is the standing space rule - if there is space for feet, there's space for a man (obviously not just your feet but let's say a 18 inch section of one step! If you can barely get your feet planted, it's too full.
There are still a number of individuals who get narky.
In recent weeks my mate had someone ask him to move as "his son could not see". This is right in the middle of the terrace. Do these people understand the concept of a terrace at a football match? You genuinely think a terrace ticket also entitles you to the 3 steps below your step too? I am sorry but if you bring a small kid to the terrace, you can't stand in the middle and expect to part the waters like Moses so that your kid can rob 4-5 people of a space.
I was a kid at games once. I stood at the front or on the sides. Plus, adults are often as short as older children - do they get the same privileges? I am not sure who is at fault here. Is one being selfish as kids rights trump all? Am I being unkind to the "cheeeldren"? Or is the parent in this situation the selfish one, putting his own flesh and blood over everyone else. Having never had the benefit of the crowd clearing a space for me when I was little, i am loathe to do this now.
There's a lot of adults who do the same - some folks get there early, stand in front of a bar and take up 2 steps, standing back and leaning forward so they get 2 steps. There's a really fat dude on dribuild does it every game, farts like a sewage facility and if you try to get anywhere near him he bristles and defends his 2 step strategy to the death - it looks really uncomfortable got him to sit doubled up just to take more than he is entitled to - on principle! Someone has to be winning!
Anyway, whoever you are, you have one step each. If you get there early and don't want me standing in front of you, bunch up a bit. Don't stand with a comfortable space around you (again, more space that you need) and get arsey that you can't have a great view AND not be crowded. Everybody pays and you get one spot.
getting there early, having a child, none of these thing entitle you to more.
The issue is, you cannot have a good space and a non crowded area on a big match, and not matter how early you are, you cannot beat the system. Either go to the side, front or prepare to be a sardine. If you expect others to crowd whilst you recline in a beach chair you've had your towel on since 7am, you need to buy a seat, not a terrace ticket.
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Post by meader on Apr 26, 2016 6:24:57 GMT
Great post - but these kind of issues will not exist when we have oue new ALL SEATER stadium!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 6:35:46 GMT
Great post - but these kind of issues will not exist when we have oue new ALL SEATER stadium! What if you get a fatty sat either side of you?
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Post by gaston on Apr 26, 2016 6:42:03 GMT
Bit of a tricky situation and it must be rubbish to feel like the people around you are getting annoyed when you go to a match You are saying kids should stand to the side and front cos they need 3 steps in front of them but by the same argument you should stand at the back cos you need 3 steps behind you! Just joking but we've all paid our money, we all want to see and stand with our different sized mates! We all just need to be more understanding I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 6:42:05 GMT
Being a large fellow, you are conscious that your runtish friends of normal stature do not attract the same ire you do when selecting a space. My group of friends and relatives at rovers all are smaller than I, so when we squeeze in on the dribuild, whilst others are accepted, I am often met with sighs and annoyance as anyone behind me is in trouble! Now, as my mates have a habit of turning up at 2.55 and insisting on bring right on the halfway line, this has created some issues. Sometimes I even stand on my own as pushing in the middle when full I feel is a little aggressive and as a big guy, you always get the aggro! However, the rule I apply is the standing space rule - if there is space for feet, there's space for a man (obviously not just your feet but let's say a 18 inch section of one step! If you can barely get your feet planted, it's too full. There are still a number of individuals who get narky. In recent weeks my mate had someone ask him to move as "his son could not see". This is right in the middle of the terrace. Do these people understand the concept of a terrace at a football match? You genuinely think a terrace ticket also entitles you to the 3 steps below your step too? I am sorry but if you bring a small kid to the terrace, you can't stand in the middle and expect to part the waters like Moses so that your kid can rob 4-5 people of a space. I was a kid at games once. I stood at the front or on the sides. Plus, adults are often as short as older children - do they get the same privileges? I am not sure who is at fault here. Is one being selfish as kids rights trump all? Am I being unkind to the "cheeeldren"? Or is the parent in this situation the selfish one, putting his own flesh and blood over everyone else. Having never had the benefit of the crowd clearing a space for me when I was little, i am loathe to do this now. There's a lot of adults who do the same - some folks get there early, stand in front of a bar and take up 2 steps, standing back and leaning forward so they get 2 steps. There's a really fat dude on dribuild does it every game, farts like a sewage facility and if you try to get anywhere near him he bristles and defends his 2 step strategy to the death - it looks really uncomfortable got him to sit doubled up just to take more than he is entitled to - on principle! Someone has to be winning! Anyway, whoever you are, you have one step each. If you get there early and don't want me standing in front of you, bunch up a bit. Don't stand with a comfortable space around you (again, more space that you need) and get arsey that you can't have a great view AND not be crowded. Everybody pays and you get one spot. getting there early, having a child, none of these thing entitle you to more. The issue is, you cannot have a good space and a non crowded area on a big match, and not matter how early you are, you cannot beat the system. Either go to the side, front or prepare to be a sardine. If you expect others to crowd whilst you recline in a beach chair you've had your towel on since 7am, you need to buy a seat, not a terrace ticket.
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Post by long john silver on Apr 26, 2016 6:42:34 GMT
I remember at twerton it was kids only at the front but at the mem you seem to to have fully grown men stood at the advertising boards. another reason a all seated UWE will be a bit more user friendly.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 26, 2016 6:50:20 GMT
Being a large fellow, you are conscious that your runtish friends of normal stature do not attract the same ire you do when selecting a space. My group of friends and relatives at rovers all are smaller than I, so when we squeeze in on the dribuild, whilst others are accepted, I am often met with sighs and annoyance as anyone behind me is in trouble! Now, as my mates have a habit of turning up at 2.55 and insisting on bring right on the halfway line, this has created some issues. Sometimes I even stand on my own as pushing in the middle when full I feel is a little aggressive and as a big guy, you always get the aggro! However, the rule I apply is the standing space rule - if there is space for feet, there's space for a man (obviously not just your feet but let's say a 18 inch section of one step! If you can barely get your feet planted, it's too full. There are still a number of individuals who get narky. In recent weeks my mate had someone ask him to move as "his son could not see". This is right in the middle of the terrace. Do these people understand the concept of a terrace at a football match? You genuinely think a terrace ticket also entitles you to the 3 steps below your step too? I am sorry but if you bring a small kid to the terrace, you can't stand in the middle and expect to part the waters like Moses so that your kid can rob 4-5 people of a space. I was a kid at games once. I stood at the front or on the sides. Plus, adults are often as short as older children - do they get the same privileges? I am not sure who is at fault here. Is one being selfish as kids rights trump all? Am I being unkind to the "cheeeldren"? Or is the parent in this situation the selfish one, putting his own flesh and blood over everyone else. Having never had the benefit of the crowd clearing a space for me when I was little, i am loathe to do this now. There's a lot of adults who do the same - some folks get there early, stand in front of a bar and take up 2 steps, standing back and leaning forward so they get 2 steps. There's a really fat dude on dribuild does it every game, farts like a sewage facility and if you try to get anywhere near him he bristles and defends his 2 step strategy to the death - it looks really uncomfortable got him to sit doubled up just to take more than he is entitled to - on principle! Someone has to be winning! Anyway, whoever you are, you have one step each. If you get there early and don't want me standing in front of you, bunch up a bit. Don't stand with a comfortable space around you (again, more space that you need) and get arsey that you can't have a great view AND not be crowded. Everybody pays and you get one spot. getting there early, having a child, none of these thing entitle you to more. The issue is, you cannot have a good space and a non crowded area on a big match, and not matter how early you are, you cannot beat the system. Either go to the side, front or prepare to be a sardine. If you expect others to crowd whilst you recline in a beach chair you've had your towel on since 7am, you need to buy a seat, not a terrace ticket. Simples.... get there a bit earlier or get some new mates.... I stand in the Dribuild and i stand on the half way line and i'm a fat ba*tard and i fart like a dray horse so you could be talking about me... but then again, plenty more like me around the half way line as well.....
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Post by RD on Apr 26, 2016 6:55:34 GMT
IMO anyone young enough to struggle to see a football match should be in either the Family Enclosure or in a seat.
Standing on a terrace with a young child is always going to cause issues in regards to the view. I'm not saying you should HAVE to go in to one of the other two places I've listed, but IMO if you opt not to do so, you lose your right to complain that your child cannot see.
A few people will disagree with me but it's my opinion. And yes, I do have a child and when he is old enough to start watching games (and still too young to either be safe on a "proper" terrace and/or able to see fully) then regardless of the fact it will "lessen" the experience for me, I would be taking him to either the Family Enclosure or the South Stand/another seated area.
If you want to go in the Blackthorn End etc with a young child who is not capable of seeing the match then you are completely entitled to do so but, IMO, you have no right whatsoever to complain about the view (or even the language [to an extent] IMO).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 6:58:30 GMT
I agree with your post...and as I'm a parent who takes my 6 yr old boy in the blackthorn end, I tend to prop him on the terrace bar and dangle his legs over which in turn can sometimes take up a standing space in front, only due to the fact he is unable to see over the front barrier, but never had a problem and most people around me encourage it. But if there was an an issue or a space issue, I quite happily carry him. UTG
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Post by peterparker on Apr 26, 2016 7:09:02 GMT
Everything works both ways doesn't it.
There is a point to what the OP says but by the same token if you want to stay in the bar to 2.55 than said person can't expect to get the best space.
Normally during the season there aren't many issues, but the last few games obviously we have larger crowds.
Earlier in the season I would stay in the dribuild bar until maybe 2.30 and get 'my' space no problem, but knowing the last few games would be busier I have left the bar earlier to get 'my' space.
In other words I used a bit of common sense
Personally as much as the terrace is great and I will miss it, I will certainly be looking forward to having my seat
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 7:12:05 GMT
I could get a ticket fo a seat for him but in all honesty I take him in the blackthorn at my own risk and most of the game, he spends it laughing at the language/abuse and enjoys the atmosphere but the golden rule has always been..what he hears at football, stays at football. ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 7:12:33 GMT
I could get a ticket fo a seat for him but in all honesty I take him in the blackthorn at my own risk and most of the game, he spends it laughing at the language/abuse and enjoys the atmosphere but the golden rule has always been..what he hears at football, stays at football. ?
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Post by RD on Apr 26, 2016 7:18:20 GMT
I could get a ticket fo a seat for him but in all honesty I take him in the blackthorn at my own risk and most of the game, he spends it laughing at the language/abuse and enjoys the atmosphere but the golden rule has always been..what he hears at football, stays at football. ? Oh don't get me wrong mate, totally agree with you. My issue is with the people who take their kids in to the Blackthorn end and then moan when they hear the F word etc. The C word is a different argument I suppose. But if I was stood in the Blackthorn End and shouted "oi ref, you're a w**ker" or "f**k of ref that's a joke" then I'd be livid if a parent turned round and told me to stop swearing - this is a football match for crying out loud. On the other side of the coin though, I would be appalled if that language was being used in the Family Enclosure (and I'm not naive enough to think that it doesn't - I just mean that it shouldn't be).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 7:39:26 GMT
No offence taken mate.. my question marks were a smiley emoji. I couldn't agree more, and to be fair if you don't like the language around your kids in the blackthorn, then I agree that you shouldn't be in there. As I said my boy loves it and I've been in other parts of the ground but the match day experience is better for me and I like my boy experiencing it aswell. I had someone ask if I minded them smoking around him againsed mansfield?! I smoke so not an issue as long as it's not directly in his face. I guess everyone's to there own and as already said, won't matter when our new home is built. UTG
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Post by RD on Apr 26, 2016 7:40:40 GMT
No offence taken mate.. my question marks were a smiley emoji. I couldn't agree more, and to be fair if you don't like the language around your kids in the blackthorn, then I agree that you shouldn't be in there. As I said my boy loves it and I've been in other parts of the ground but the match day experience is better for me and I like my boy experiencing it aswell. I had someone ask if I minded them smoking around him againsed mansfield?! I smoke so not an issue as long as it's not directly in his face. I guess everyone's to there own and as already said, won't matter when our new home is built. UTG Spot on mate and very true - hopefully a couple of years and we won't have to worry UTG!!
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Post by fanboy on Apr 26, 2016 7:44:05 GMT
IMO anyone young enough to struggle to see a football match should be in either the Family Enclosure or in a seat. Standing on a terrace with a young child is always going to cause issues in regards to the view. I'm not saying you should HAVE to go in to one of the other two places I've listed, but IMO if you opt not to do so, you lose your right to complain that your child cannot see. A few people will disagree with me but it's my opinion. And yes, I do have a child and when he is old enough to start watching games (and still too young to either be safe on a "proper" terrace and/or able to see fully) then regardless of the fact it will "lessen" the experience for me, I would be taking him to either the Family Enclosure or the South Stand/another seated area. If you want to go in the Blackthorn End etc with a young child who is not capable of seeing the match then you are completely entitled to do so but, IMO, you have no right whatsoever to complain about the view (or even the language [to an extent] IMO). Guess who just had a kid!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 7:48:09 GMT
I have a rule I use on public transport. If I don't want someone to sit next to me, whenever I see someone heading towards the empty seat next to me, I just let some dribble escape from my bottom lip, and I then smile at them as they approach. You'd be amazed at the amount of people who decide not to sit next to me but will find a seat somewhere else !
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Post by RD on Apr 26, 2016 7:52:05 GMT
I have a rule I use on public transport. If I don't want someone to sit next to me, whenever I see someone heading towards the empty seat next to me, I just let some dribble escape from my bottom lip, and I then smile at them as they approach. You'd be amazed at the amount of people who decide not to sit next to me but will find a seat somewhere else ! I like the way you make out this is an "act" you "put on" when on the bus
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 7:55:51 GMT
I have a rule I use on public transport. If I don't want someone to sit next to me, whenever I see someone heading towards the empty seat next to me, I just let some dribble escape from my bottom lip, and I then smile at them as they approach. You'd be amazed at the amount of people who decide not to sit next to me but will find a seat somewhere else ! I like the way you make out this is an "act" you "put on" when on the bus Tis a true story. I really do it ....oh, hang on. I see what you're getting at.
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Post by grayraydon on Apr 26, 2016 8:03:12 GMT
Being 6'6" I totally get where you're coming from with this, I stand in the same spot every week in the back right hand corner of the blackthorn and as such everybody around me knows I'm going to be there and I generally find a space just behind the barrier and it's no problem but I still get the odd moan and groan. Saturday was a different story as I went with a different bunch of mates and didn't get in the ground until 2:58 and didn't want to squeeze in to my usual spot with more people than could fit in there so ended up watching from the walking area behind the blackthorn, wasn't easy seeing everything but that was my decision, wouldn't feel comfortable squeezing in that late and blocking someones view, plus I was closer to the bar for halftime.
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