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Post by swissgas on Aug 10, 2014 19:13:10 GMT
Does that explain the recent press statement from UWE ? And does it mean "if you cannot afford to build the stadium exactly in line with the original plans then there will be no stadium" ? more like the UWE want more use of the stadium than original agreement & issues with Overflow Car parks Does the club think the original agreement with UWE is watertight ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 19:13:28 GMT
Does that explain the recent press statement from UWE ? And does it mean "if you cannot afford to build the stadium exactly in line with the original plans then there will be no stadium" ? more like the UWE want more use of the stadium than original agreement & issues with Overflow Car parks But no one wants to use the facilities at the new stadium. I read it on here.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 10, 2014 19:17:16 GMT
more like the UWE want more use of the stadium than original agreement & issues with Overflow Car parks Does the club think the original agreement with UWE is watertight ? Only Sir Nick could answer that one !
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Post by swissgas on Aug 10, 2014 19:31:22 GMT
more like the UWE want more use of the stadium than original agreement & issues with Overflow Car parks But no one wants to use the facilities at the new stadium. I read it on here. Touche I have doubts about the commercial attraction of the proposed conference/exhibition and gym facilities at the stadium when there are well established facilities already on the UWE campus. Also, I struggle to see how bars and restaurants at the stadium will attract students from UWE who already have plenty of subsidised facilities on campus. But if Rovers or whoever operates the stadium can come up with something different and innovative which will compete effectively with the existing UWE facilities then I shall be delighted. If the homework has been done and there are sound commercial grounds for thinking the facilities at the UWE will be an immediate money spinner, and if the agreements with Sainsburys and UWE are watertight, then I can't see why any major Rovers shareholders would be withholding investment at this moment in time. Surely it would be logical for them to be increasing their investment now to make sure Rovers had the best possible chance of creating a successful football team so we move to the UWE on an upward curve ? People say the club is skint, and with our crowd levels that seems questionable, but the clubs owners are not skint so why, if all the sums add up, are they not backing their judgement ? Why are they making it sound as if we are a charity ?
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 10, 2014 19:34:41 GMT
Bickering between themselves ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 19:46:23 GMT
But no one wants to use the facilities at the new stadium. I read it on here. Touche I have doubts about the commercial attraction of the proposed conference/exhibition and gym facilities at the stadium when there are well established facilities already on the UWE campus. Also, I struggle to see how bars and restaurants at the stadium will attract students from UWE who already have plenty of subsidised facilities on campus. But if Rovers or whoever operates the stadium can come up with something different and innovative which will compete effectively with the existing UWE facilities then I shall be delighted. If the homework has been done and there are sound commercial grounds for thinking the facilities at the UWE will be an immediate money spinner, and if the agreements with Sainsburys and UWE are watertight, then I can't see why any major Rovers shareholders would be withholding investment at this moment in time. Surely it would be logical for them to be increasing their investment now to make sure Rovers had the best possible chance of creating a successful football team so we move to the UWE on an upward curve ? People say the club is skint, and with our crowd levels that seems questionable, but the clubs owners are not skint so why, if all the sums add up, are they not backing their judgement ? Why are they making it sound as if we are a charity ? I would not be surprised if UWE ended up just buying us out and running us. UWE could and would make extensive and lucrative use of the facilities offered by a stadium. It's a massively successful business in its own right and looking to expand its standing.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 10, 2014 19:51:33 GMT
Touche I have doubts about the commercial attraction of the proposed conference/exhibition and gym facilities at the stadium when there are well established facilities already on the UWE campus. Also, I struggle to see how bars and restaurants at the stadium will attract students from UWE who already have plenty of subsidised facilities on campus. But if Rovers or whoever operates the stadium can come up with something different and innovative which will compete effectively with the existing UWE facilities then I shall be delighted. If the homework has been done and there are sound commercial grounds for thinking the facilities at the UWE will be an immediate money spinner, and if the agreements with Sainsburys and UWE are watertight, then I can't see why any major Rovers shareholders would be withholding investment at this moment in time. Surely it would be logical for them to be increasing their investment now to make sure Rovers had the best possible chance of creating a successful football team so we move to the UWE on an upward curve ? People say the club is skint, and with our crowd levels that seems questionable, but the clubs owners are not skint so why, if all the sums add up, are they not backing their judgement ? Why are they making it sound as if we are a charity ? I would not be surprised if UWE ended up just buying us out and running us. UWE could and would make extensive and lucrative use of the facilities offered by a stadium. It's a massively successful business in its own right and looking to expand its standing. But Professor West was quite blunt in his statement on July 30th he said "our core business is education"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 19:58:55 GMT
I think I am right in thinking that UWE has one of the largest faculties of health care in the UK. They already do physio, I can't remember if they have sports science or not.
If you look at the US model of higher education many of them have sports teams. Closer to home, look at Bath uni with track swimming.
They could stick in a CEO easy enough.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 10, 2014 20:00:28 GMT
Bickering between themselves ? I don't know about you newmarketgas but I am shocked and a little humiliated to learn of these notices and if it had not been posted by someone as level headed as bidefordgas I should have thought it was a wind up. If there is disagreement between the major shareholders then they need their heads knocking together because the Rovers ship is looking rudderless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:09:40 GMT
Club still mentioning trash and the loss of football league money. Appeared to be saying they need every supporter to spend £4 per head on top of their ticket price to break even. Also mentioning the Annexe as a place to drink as it supports Rovers. Mentioning with no names given, that other business premises in the area were trash supporters and inferring we should avoid them. Club obviously very concerned about our financial position it would appear. Sounds like we are so desperate Itl be hand jobs in the toilet cubicals next !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:11:37 GMT
Bickering between themselves ? I don't know about you newmarketgas but I am shocked and a little humiliated to learn of these notices and if it had not been posted by someone as level headed as bidefordgas I should have thought it was a wind up. If there is disagreement between the major shareholders then they need their heads knocking together because the Rovers ship is looking rudderless. Disgraceful suggestion Swiss
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:12:49 GMT
Club still mentioning trash and the loss of football league money. Appeared to be saying they need every supporter to spend £4 per head on top of their ticket price to break even. Also mentioning the Annexe as a place to drink as it supports Rovers. Mentioning with no names given, that other business premises in the area were trash supporters and inferring we should avoid them. Club obviously very concerned about our financial position it would appear. Sounds like we are so desperate Itl be hand jobs in the toilet cubicals next !!!! That doesn't make as much profit as I was led to believe.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 10, 2014 20:22:58 GMT
I think I am right in thinking that UWE has one of the largest faculties of health care in the UK. They already do physio, I can't remember if they have sports science or not. If you look at the US model of higher education many of them have sports teams. Closer to home, look at Bath uni with track swimming. They could stick in a CEO easy enough. I live near the University of Kentucky which is a huge sports orientated college. Basketball is the main sport and the UK arena regularly sells out it's 23000 capacity. Football is accommodated in a huge stadium and often get crowds of 60 000 + for their games. Soccer is very much the poor relation but still the University is opening a new $7.7 million soccer stadium complex at the end of this month. The colors are blue and when big UK games are on the whole city is decked in blue and everywhere you hear the slogan "go big blue". I know many traditional British sports fans are anti the American model but I can't see any sense in ignoring something which seems to work and which certainly gives a lot of pleasure to a lot of people old and young. I should love to see Rovers with a big bold vision and the UWE project appeared to promise that but we still seem stuck in the dark ages and this latest "notice in the toilet" incident only reinforces that view. I do fear that Sainsburys and the UWE are sensing their partner is not up to it and if that is the case I wonder if anything can be done to retrieve the situation ?
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Post by swissgas on Aug 10, 2014 20:25:51 GMT
Club still mentioning trash and the loss of football league money. Appeared to be saying they need every supporter to spend £4 per head on top of their ticket price to break even. Also mentioning the Annexe as a place to drink as it supports Rovers. Mentioning with no names given, that other business premises in the area were trash supporters and inferring we should avoid them. Club obviously very concerned about our financial position it would appear. Sounds like we are so desperate Itl be hand jobs in the toilet cubicals next !!!! Before anyone else says it, that was not my "big bold vision"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:27:24 GMT
Sounds like we are so desperate Itl be hand jobs in the toilet cubicals next !!!! Before anyone else says it, that was not my "big bold vision" I can confirm it was indeed neither big, nor bold.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 10, 2014 20:28:50 GMT
Has anyone got a copy of the poster ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:41:35 GMT
Has anyone got a copy of the poster ? Brian has hundreds
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Post by empirebaypete on Aug 10, 2014 22:42:32 GMT
I think it would be a good thing to promote fans using the bars and food outlets. Get some decent offers on and some entertainment in and it may work Mr Bloggs please, best after match entertainment on the planet! Was that a typo? Did you mean GD should have a word with his mate about getting Mr Blobby along?
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Post by cagastrophy on Aug 11, 2014 6:04:32 GMT
I live near the University of Kentucky which is a huge sports orientated college. Basketball is the main sport and the UK arena regularly sells out it's 23000 capacity. Football is accommodated in a huge stadium and often get crowds of 60 000 + for their games. Soccer is very much the poor relation but still the University is opening a new $7.7 million soccer stadium complex at the end of this month. The colors are blue and when big UK games are on the whole city is decked in blue and everywhere you hear the slogan "go big blue". I know many traditional British sports fans are anti the American model but I can't see any sense in ignoring something which seems to work and which certainly gives a lot of pleasure to a lot of people old and young. I should love to see Rovers with a big bold vision and the UWE project appeared to promise that but we still seem stuck in the dark ages and this latest "notice in the toilet" incident only reinforces that view. I do fear that Sainsburys and the UWE are sensing their partner is not up to it and if that is the case I wonder if anything can be done to retrieve the situation ? Heerenveen college has a similar setup, the stadium is almost bigger than the college!
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Post by cagastrophy on Aug 11, 2014 6:07:39 GMT
But no one wants to use the facilities at the new stadium. I read it on here. Touche I have doubts about the commercial attraction of the proposed conference/exhibition and gym facilities at the stadium when there are well established facilities already on the UWE campus. Also, I struggle to see how bars and restaurants at the stadium will attract students from UWE who already have plenty of subsidised facilities on campus. But if Rovers or whoever operates the stadium can come up with something different and innovative which will compete effectively with the existing UWE facilities then I shall be delighted. If the homework has been done and there are sound commercial grounds for thinking the facilities at the UWE will be an immediate money spinner, and if the agreements with Sainsburys and UWE are watertight, then I can't see why any major Rovers shareholders would be withholding investment at this moment in time. Surely it would be logical for them to be increasing their investment now to make sure Rovers had the best possible chance of creating a successful football team so we move to the UWE on an upward curve ? People say the club is skint, and with our crowd levels that seems questionable, but the clubs owners are not skint so why, if all the sums add up, are they not backing their judgement ? Why are they making it sound as if we are a charity ? My old university owned four different drinking establishments, all with different pricing structures, they all served different types of people, one was up market, one was student-y, one was mid range, one was a nightclub, they were all packed on Friday nights, even the one far from the city centre, students love something new, makes them feel cool and 'with it'
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