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Post by mullerrd on Aug 31, 2016 5:55:10 GMT
I suspect the majority of people who didn't attend last night stayed away simply because they didn't want to watch what the EFL made a meaningless game in an equally meaningless competition against an Under 21 side. As a season ticket holder myself I am firmly in this camp.
Sure, there will be those who who didn't go in order to make a political point, and fair play to them, but let's not pretend this was a deliberate mass boycott. Either way, the effect is the same.
Supporters have sent the EFL a strong message that it has devalued a competition which most had previously seen as a genuine vehicle for the lower leagues sides to pit their wits against each other with a view to making progress to a rare Wembley final.
Let's not turn on each other on this issue whether you attended last night's game, or you didn't. The real villains of the piece are those who are running the game and who are using the invitation of Under 21 sides as a sticking plaster to cover up the fact that home grown youngsters can no longer make progress through the ranks in the top 2 leagues.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 31, 2016 6:06:19 GMT
What next, Rovers Momentum ?
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Post by HarryBayles on Aug 31, 2016 6:16:02 GMT
So you back the introduction of U23/B teams in competitive lower league competitions? Genuine question. I back U23/B teams in the EFL Trophy as I think it is a good way for youngsters to experience football at a senior competitive level which I think may be important if we want to bring up a successful generation of young English players. I however do not support a league 3 competition, if that happens then lower league clubs will lose out you are right. I am not looking for an argument and respect your opinion also, In my mind the people that are introducing these new formats are not the evil, money driven people they are purported to be but are just looking at ways that will allow us to be a successful footballing country in the years to come. Surely to send the message good and proper we should boycott all games in the competition?
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 31, 2016 6:25:10 GMT
Pompey & Luton made 11 changes and are to be hit with a 5K fine apparently. Honestly, I would rather we did the same for the sake of 5K. in DC's head it will be a run out for some players,we haven't got a game Saturday so helps the bench warmers
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 31, 2016 6:28:28 GMT
Pompey & Luton made 11 changes and are to be hit with a 5K fine apparently. Honestly, I would rather we did the same for the sake of 5K. in DC's head it will be a run out for some players, we haven't got a game Saturday so helps the bench warmersWe have a behind closed doors game
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 6:39:40 GMT
Not sure I've seen quite so much division here since the Brexit and Ellis Harrison threads earlier this year. The problem with non attendance is that it becomes a statistic and statistics can be manipulated to suit. The villains here are the FA not fellow fans, as we can't boycott the FA directly then we have to target their source of income. For this competition it's Checkatrade. What I am proposing is a mass emailing of Checkatrade with a brief explanation, something along the lines of "Dear Sir, I am sending you this email as a sign of my disapproval of the way the Under 23 teams have been parachuted into a competition that now bears your name. This in contrary to the spirit and ethos of the game and I regret that until these teams are removed I will not be using your services and will be advising my friends and family to do the same." Their contact details are contact@checkatrade.com Keep it simple and respectful. The number of fans of the lower leagues must be measured in several hundred thousands. Imagine a mass emailing, say 8pm on Thursday and Checkatrade having 10,000 emails on Friday morning. It will slow them down and make them put pressure on the FA. I know, wishful thinking, but surely better than us turning on ourselves. That's not going to happen. The best way is for zero attendance. Unfortunately, too many people don't get it. If there was zero attendance across all games last night, the EFL would have been forced to rethink the competition. Alas, this is England and people will do what they wish no matter what.
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 31, 2016 6:42:11 GMT
Not sure I've seen quite so much division here since the Brexit and Ellis Harrison threads earlier this year. The problem with non attendance is that it becomes a statistic and statistics can be manipulated to suit. The villains here are the FA not fellow fans, as we can't boycott the FA directly then we have to target their source of income. For this competition it's Checkatrade. What I am proposing is a mass emailing of Checkatrade with a brief explanation, something along the lines of "Dear Sir, I am sending you this email as a sign of my disapproval of the way the Under 23 teams have been parachuted into a competition that now bears your name. This in contrary to the spirit and ethos of the game and I regret that until these teams are removed I will not be using your services and will be advising my friends and family to do the same." Their contact details are contact@checkatrade.com Keep it simple and respectful. The number of fans of the lower leagues must be measured in several hundred thousands. Imagine a mass emailing, say 8pm on Thursday and Checkatrade having 10,000 emails on Friday morning. It will slow them down and make them put pressure on the FA. I know, wishful thinking, but surely better than us turning on ourselves. That's not going to happen. The best way is for zero attendance. Unfortunately, too many people don't get it. If there was zero attendance across all games last night, the EFL would have been forced to rethink the competition. Alas, this is England and people will do what they wish no matter what. It's a bit like going to shop at Sainsbury's.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 31, 2016 6:43:07 GMT
Not sure I've seen quite so much division here since the Brexit and Ellis Harrison threads earlier this year. The problem with non attendance is that it becomes a statistic and statistics can be manipulated to suit. The villains here are the FA not fellow fans, as we can't boycott the FA directly then we have to target their source of income. For this competition it's Checkatrade. What I am proposing is a mass emailing of Checkatrade with a brief explanation, something along the lines of "Dear Sir, I am sending you this email as a sign of my disapproval of the way the Under 23 teams have been parachuted into a competition that now bears your name. This in contrary to the spirit and ethos of the game and I regret that until these teams are removed I will not be using your services and will be advising my friends and family to do the same." Their contact details are contact@checkatrade.com Keep it simple and respectful. The number of fans of the lower leagues must be measured in several hundred thousands. Imagine a mass emailing, say 8pm on Thursday and Checkatrade having 10,000 emails on Friday morning. It will slow them down and make them put pressure on the FA. I know, wishful thinking, but surely better than us turning on ourselves. That's not going to happen. The best way is for zero attendance. Unfortunately, too many people don't get it. If there was zero attendance across all games last night, the EFL would have been forced to rethink the competition. Alas, this is England and people will do what they wish no matter what.If that what you think about this country then i suggest you go back to Russia and live the dream
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 6:44:24 GMT
That's not going to happen. The best way is for zero attendance. Unfortunately, too many people don't get it. If there was zero attendance across all games last night, the EFL would have been forced to rethink the competition. Alas, this is England and people will do what they wish no matter what. It's a bit like going to shop at Sainsbury's. Informed decision based upon consequences.
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 31, 2016 6:52:16 GMT
If the idea of the tinpot trophy revamp is meant to improve our national game, are the football league going to nationalise all the johhny foreigners in these academy sides?
I believe Reading fielded between five and seven non British players last night, they were a competitive side with an edge to their play. Probably as a result of Martin Kuhl being their Manager/Coach, several questions and a few answers for DC from that performance last night.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 6:53:41 GMT
Not sure I've seen quite so much division here since the Brexit and Ellis Harrison threads earlier this year. The problem with non attendance is that it becomes a statistic and statistics can be manipulated to suit. The villains here are the FA not fellow fans, as we can't boycott the FA directly then we have to target their source of income. For this competition it's Checkatrade. What I am proposing is a mass emailing of Checkatrade with a brief explanation, something along the lines of "Dear Sir, I am sending you this email as a sign of my disapproval of the way the Under 23 teams have been parachuted into a competition that now bears your name. This in contrary to the spirit and ethos of the game and I regret that until these teams are removed I will not be using your services and will be advising my friends and family to do the same." Their contact details are contact@checkatrade.com Keep it simple and respectful. The number of fans of the lower leagues must be measured in several hundred thousands. Imagine a mass emailing, say 8pm on Thursday and Checkatrade having 10,000 emails on Friday morning. It will slow them down and make them put pressure on the FA. I know, wishful thinking, but surely better than us turning on ourselves. That's not going to happen. The best way is for zero attendance. Unfortunately, too many people don't get it. If there was zero attendance across all games last night, the EFL would have been forced to rethink the competition. Alas, this is England and people will do what they wish no matter what. Very true. They can have no complaints if our next competitive derby is against a Bristol City B team after the trial is expanded.
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Post by bluegas on Aug 31, 2016 6:55:24 GMT
1) I didn't go because I couldn't be added, not really to make a political point. 2) Great night someone said? We got 3 yellows in a meaningless match we lost to a reserve side. 3) Professional football is about making money sadly. End of.
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Post by bluegas on Aug 31, 2016 6:57:16 GMT
Arsed that is, not added.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 31, 2016 6:59:24 GMT
1) I didn't go because I couldn't be added, not really to make a political point. 2) Great night someone said? We got 3 yellows in a meaningless match we lost to a reserve side. 3) Professional football is about making money sadly. End of. We got 5 yellows! Fortunately they only count in this competition.
My main fear is that the bad feeling/apathy around this tournament will rub off on the players and the poor performance last night will carry over into the league. The long break we now have could be a blessing as it will give DC time to get the squad focussed again.
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Post by lympstonegas on Aug 31, 2016 7:27:32 GMT
Very accurate though. They deserve all the criticism that comes. After all, they've effectively voted for the introduction of B/U23 teams in lower league competitions. Hilarious and Patronising - All our forum users really have an indepth knowledge of football do they ? Were you also including the no pyro no party group in that comment Think you're forgetting that the forum users on here are a tiny minority of BRFC fanbase and that everyone has an opinion and choice which just might not match yours. i suppose you could go one step further though and set up a thread to ask people to identify those that actually went to try and personally shame them ? Oh and by the way - I didn't go
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 31, 2016 7:30:37 GMT
... I choose to go to support my club as I wanted to watch the Gas. I'm 100% in support of the clubs supporters boycott of this competition... Not sure you really understand what supporting a boycott actually means, to be honest.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 31, 2016 7:41:10 GMT
I think the majority of people who went tonight probably aren't educated on the matter to be honest. A lot of people will just go to watch Rovers but they don't read fans forums or really look indepth into football the way most forum users do. I bet a lot of tonight's fans didn't even know it was an u-23s side we were playing and thought it was just Reading. I bet if somebody had interviewed everybody coming out after the game and educated them on the situation then a lot of them wouldn't go to anymore shitfest cup games either. There will always be people who slip through the net in these kind of situations and there will be people who don't care and only went to get away from the kids or wife for a couple of hours. Very patronising.... I think the sentiment of some of that is correct though. How many who went know about the changes and the farce surrounding the competition and if they did would they still have gone Only yesterday was it agreed bookings and suspension would only count in the EFL Trophy. Just msking it up as they go along
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Post by jungleboogie on Aug 31, 2016 7:50:28 GMT
So you back the introduction of U23/B teams in competitive lower league competitions? Genuine question. I back U23/B teams in the EFL Trophy as I think it is a good way for youngsters to experience football at a senior competitive level which I think may be important if we want to bring up a successful generation of young English players. I however do not support a league 3 competition, if that happens then lower league clubs will lose out you are right. I am not looking for an argument and respect your opinion also, In my mind the people that are introducing these new formats are not the evil, money driven people they are purported to be but are just looking at ways that will allow us to be a successful footballing country in the years to come. Someone's been brainwashed in to believing the corporate crap spouted by the EFL!!
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 31, 2016 7:52:15 GMT
A mass boycott wouldn't work as our fans just won't stay away , as proved yesterday. Everyone has a right to an opinion which I respect but in my opinion anyone who attended last night or any other games in this daft revamped JPT is risking the future of lower league football. It really annoys me when I read things like " it's the only chance I've got to go and watch them" or I turn up to support the gas , and no ones telling me what to do " . Really ? Surely there are other games out of the whole season you could go and watch? Just remember if we do ever end up playing reading under 23's or Burnleys reserves in the league in the not to distant future you can tell our young supporters how you help made this happen! This isn't ment at anyone in particular on here but it's certainly aimed at the crowd last night as in my opinion it should of been empty at the mem.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 31, 2016 7:59:45 GMT
1) I didn't go because I couldn't be added, not really to make a political point. 2) Great night someone said? We got 3 yellows in a meaningless match we lost to a reserve side. 3) Professional football is about making money sadly. End of. We got 5 yellows! Fortunately they only count in this competition.
My main fear is that the bad feeling/apathy around this tournament will rub off on the players and the poor performance last night will carry over into the league. The long break we now have could be a blessing as it will give DC time to get the squad focussed again.
will give the new signing time to bed in
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