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Post by paulpirate on Aug 31, 2016 8:05:11 GMT
A mass boycott wouldn't work as our fans just won't stay away , as proved yesterday. Everyone has a right to an opinion which I respect but in my opinion anyone who attended last night or any other games in this daft revamped JPT is risking the future of lower league football. It really annoys me when I read things like " it's the only chance I've got to go and watch them" or I turn up to support the gas , and no ones telling me what to do " . Really ? Surely there are other games out of the whole season you could go and watch? Just remember if we do ever end up playing reading under 23's or Burnleys reserves in the league in the not to distant future you can tell our young supporters how you help made this happen! This isn't ment at anyone in particular on here but it's certainly aimed at the crowd last night as in my opinion it should of been empty at the mem. if the blue wael spent some cash today we could be fielding our u23s next year
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 8:15:34 GMT
A mass boycott wouldn't work as our fans just won't stay away , as proved yesterday. Everyone has a right to an opinion which I respect but in my opinion anyone who attended last night or any other games in this daft revamped JPT is risking the future of lower league football. It really annoys me when I read things like " it's the only chance I've got to go and watch them" or I turn up to support the gas , and no ones telling me what to do " . Really ? Surely there are other games out of the whole season you could go and watch? Just remember if we do ever end up playing reading under 23's or Burnleys reserves in the league in the not to distant future you can tell our young supporters how you help made this happen! This isn't ment at anyone in particular on here but it's certainly aimed at the crowd last night as in my opinion it should of been empty at the mem. Spot on. In these dangerous times where an unprecedented amount of money is floating around the game, it's really important that anyone who values the Football League and the integrity of lower league football makes a stand.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 31, 2016 8:17:07 GMT
I think the majority of people who went tonight probably aren't educated on the matter to be honest. A lot of people will just go to watch Rovers but they don't read fans forums or really look indepth into football the way most forum users do. I bet a lot of tonight's fans didn't even know it was an u-23s side we were playing and thought it was just Reading. I bet if somebody had interviewed everybody coming out after the game and educated them on the situation then a lot of them wouldn't go to anymore shitfest cup games either. There will always be people who slip through the net in these kind of situations and there will be people who don't care and only went to get away from the kids or wife for a couple of hours. Come on Socrates you're better than that, I enjoy your posts but have to disagree on this. I didn't go either for most of your reasons but I'm sure people DID know it was U 23s and just wanted to support their team. People would have known and its patronising to think that those that went don't understand the issues involved. They will just have a different take on it. The poor attendance all over the country should put an end to this experiment with a bit of luck. UTG!
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Post by socrates on Aug 31, 2016 8:30:08 GMT
I think the majority of people who went tonight probably aren't educated on the matter to be honest. A lot of people will just go to watch Rovers but they don't read fans forums or really look indepth into football the way most forum users do. I bet a lot of tonight's fans didn't even know it was an u-23s side we were playing and thought it was just Reading. I bet if somebody had interviewed everybody coming out after the game and educated them on the situation then a lot of them wouldn't go to anymore shitfest cup games either. There will always be people who slip through the net in these kind of situations and there will be people who don't care and only went to get away from the kids or wife for a couple of hours. Come on Socrates you're better than that, I enjoy your posts but have to disagree on this. I didn't go either for most of your reasons but I'm sure people DID know it was U 23s and just wanted to support their team. People would have known and its patronising to think that those that went don't understand the issues involved. They will just have a different take on it. The poor attendance all over the country should put an end to this experiment with a bit of luck. UTG! I honestly reckon a fair percentage didn't know or really care about the whole U-23 prem getting their greedy mits on more money scenario. Just my opinion. There are Rovers supporters that also support Premier league sides too. Not all Gasheads are die hards that will do anything for their club, I think some on here sometimes assume that all Rovers fans are like us.
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Post by knowall on Aug 31, 2016 8:32:36 GMT
I went and I went to support the blue and white quarters..... I don't feel ashamed but won't be patting myself on the back either.... if this stupid scheme continues there will be no blue and white quarters to support - instead you will have to support Prem league second and third teams
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 31, 2016 8:46:44 GMT
I went and I went to support the blue and white quarters..... I don't feel ashamed but won't be patting myself on the back either.... if this stupid scheme continues there will be no blue and white quarters to support - instead you will have to support Prem league second and third teams Just speculation-You have absolutely no more idea whether that will happen or not than I have
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Post by knowall on Aug 31, 2016 8:53:43 GMT
if this stupid scheme continues there will be no blue and white quarters to support - instead you will have to support Prem league second and third teams Just speculation-You have absolutely no more idea whether that will happen or not than I have so you believe clubs like ours can survive against clubs who have 60 to 70 players on their books - paid more than ours are?
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 31, 2016 9:23:58 GMT
if this stupid scheme continues there will be no blue and white quarters to support - instead you will have to support Prem league second and third teams Just speculation-You have absolutely no more idea whether that will happen or not than I have [br But why risk it ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 9:26:19 GMT
"p**s off you silly tosspot" "make yourself look like a dick" Perhaps you should try and be a bit adult about this topic and have reasoned argument and opinion without resorting to the insults, but if that's the way you care to play perhaps we'll meet up before our next home game and explain to me face to face your unreasoned arguments instead of your pathetic little playground rants, I won't waste my breath though as your sort are only brave with your laptop, PM me and we'll meet up. On those who attended tonight, hope you're happy when premier and championship second string sides are playing league 1&2 football because that'll be the next hair brained scheme. Give yourselves a pat on your back 🙈 p**s off you silly tosspot! - I've supported the Gas all over the country home and away over the past 25 years even tho I'm only 34.I couldn't get a ticket for Chelsea,didnt really desire one if Im honest, I also couldn't get a ticket for Swindon due to my work hours right now.I'm lucky if I can get to 5-10 games both home and away a season - but due to beinging off work tonight I choose to go to support my club as I wanted to watch the Gas. I'm 100% in support of the clubs supporters boycott of this competition,but don't judge everyone that choose to go like myself as you make yourself look like a dick.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 31, 2016 9:31:54 GMT
Just speculation-You have absolutely no more idea whether that will happen or not than I have so you believe clubs like ours can survive against clubs who have 60 to 70 players on their books - paid more than ours are? Spanish clubs like Sabadell seemed to have survived but given that Man U etc haven't even entered teams in the EFL Trophy I'm not sure there's any real appetite for them to join the FL in any event. Personally, I know think we all need to move on as we've all made our points and at thend of the day we're all Gasheads, calling each other scabs etc seems pointless when nobody has a clue who most of us are in any event.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 31, 2016 9:42:36 GMT
The future of football is more important than any one club, and this includes Bristol Rovers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 9:47:44 GMT
It's not even a question of BRFC's survival...
First question is are you happy playing these U23s and B sides every week? Are you happy to go away and watch us play B teams at non-league grounds?
Second question is are you happy for clubs to vote for League 3, which effectively would relegate Rovers in two season's time?
Last night was an opportunity to say no to both of these questions.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 31, 2016 9:54:29 GMT
It's not even a question of BRFC's survival... First question is are you happy playing these U23s and B sides every week? Are you happy to go away and watch us play B teams at non-league grounds? Second question is are you happy for clubs to vote for League 3, which effectively would relegate Rovers in two season's time? Last night was an opportunity to say no to both of these questions. I take it you are assuming that Rovers stay a lower tier club and not become a championship club within 5 years ?
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 31, 2016 10:04:45 GMT
"p**s off you silly tosspot" "make yourself look like a dick" Perhaps you should try and be a bit adult about this topic and have reasoned argument and opinion without resorting to the insults, but if that's the way you care to play perhaps we'll meet up before our next home game and explain to me face to face your unreasoned arguments instead of your pathetic little playground rants, I won't waste my breath though as your sort are only brave with your laptop, PM me and we'll meet up. p**s off you silly tosspot! - I've supported the Gas all over the country home and away over the past 25 years even tho I'm only 34.I couldn't get a ticket for Chelsea,didnt really desire one if Im honest, I also couldn't get a ticket for Swindon due to my work hours right now.I'm lucky if I can get to 5-10 games both home and away a season - but due to beinging off work tonight I choose to go to support my club as I wanted to watch the Gas. I'm 100% in support of the clubs supporters boycott of this competition,but don't judge everyone that choose to go like myself as you make yourself look like a dick. [br What worries me the most is the fact that someone has actually used the term " tosspot" , I thought that insult went out with flairs ! Tosspot mind my old man still calls me that !
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Post by oviedista on Aug 31, 2016 10:28:27 GMT
It's not even a question of BRFC's survival... First question is are you happy playing these U23s and B sides every week? Are you happy to go away and watch us play B teams at non-league grounds? Second question is are you happy for clubs to vote for League 3, which effectively would relegate Rovers in two season's time? Last night was an opportunity to say no to both of these questions. I take it you are assuming that Rovers stay a lower tier club and not become a championship club within 5 years ? Whatever happens to Rovers the idea is a terrible one. A bit of solidarity for the health of the game across the board is what is being asked for. The potential for developing English talent does exist in the lower leagues - but not like this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 10:31:22 GMT
It's not even a question of BRFC's survival... First question is are you happy playing these U23s and B sides every week? Are you happy to go away and watch us play B teams at non-league grounds? Second question is are you happy for clubs to vote for League 3, which effectively would relegate Rovers in two season's time? Last night was an opportunity to say no to both of these questions. I take it you are assuming that Rovers stay a lower tier club and not become a championship club within 5 years ? Getting promoted to the second tier in 5 years becomes a lot harder if they chuck another tier in the way of your team's progress We could well get promoted in the next 18 months, but all those questions there are still completely valid for anyone who went last night.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Aug 31, 2016 10:34:53 GMT
I really hope the premier league have a good look at themselves but just can't see it. Best league in world full of world class players! Sorry, no. Could argue that its entertaining but thats it. Going by recent tournaments no one English is world class despite pundits telling us this. Foreign players go where the money is, same as most jobs. Get the cost down, look after your own English talent and stop passing your cock up down the leagues. Even the academies seem to have a large non english contingent. Just be crap for a few years and sort your own problems out. The parachute payments for being sh** would seriously clear the debts of a few league clubs who are helping you out but all you do is just give us some academies to play, well thank you very much. How wonderful you are. All sky sports has on deadline day is the look how much has been spent counter ticking upwards.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 31, 2016 10:36:33 GMT
Don't think any fans let themselves down by going, if all the club's forced into league are allowed to play reserves I don't see why all league 1 and 2 clubs can't do so either arguing players need to be rested. I doubt most if any reserve teams play over or even near 40 games a season.
If all clubs from league 1 and 2 put reserves out the credability of the cup would have been questioned then and I'm sure fa would have taken more notice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 11:05:56 GMT
Don't think any fans let themselves down by going, if all the club's forced into league are allowed to play reserves I don't see why all league 1 and 2 clubs can't do so either arguing players need to be rested. I doubt most if any reserve teams play over or even near 40 games a season. If all clubs from league 1 and 2 put reserves out the credability of the cup would have been questioned then and I'm sure fa would have taken more notice. The rules mean that clubs are fined £5k for fielding a reserve team. Fair play to Luton and Portsmouth who did it anyway.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 31, 2016 11:21:28 GMT
I take it you are assuming that Rovers stay a lower tier club and not become a championship club within 5 years ? Whatever happens to Rovers the idea is a terrible one. A bit of solidarity for the health of the game across the board is what is being asked for. The potential for developing English talent does exist in the lower leagues - but not like this. Yeah. If you're against the idea of lower-league B-teams if Rovers were in the third, fourth, or fifth tier, but not against the idea if Rovers were in the second tier, then you need to have a look at yourself.
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